I feel many have just stopped caring about black Americans

Well, I lived in St. Louis for a while. I thought it was a great place. I don't suppose my vote matters because it doesn't play into your meme.

 

They've had decades of affirmative action to give themselves a leg up. Most have squandered that advantage. Liberals want to talk about what others should do for blacks instead of what blacks should do for themselves. Pick yourselves up and get moving or be door mats, it's all the same to me now.

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Did the 90% try to stop them?

 

Politicians use race and division as their bread and butter. Each side accuses the other such that there is always a hot button issue.

 

It is a shame too. I believe if conservatives would reach out to blacks many would respond in a positive way. Democrats are only going to pander to them for votes but conservative values would benefit the black community.

 

Well it is always supportive of African Americans to start threads like this...

http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=384274&p=1064483077#post1064483077

Not to mention that it is also a bit insulting when you omit contributions made by people of the black race if you are going to start threads based upon comparisons.

 

Disagree that "many" have stopped caring about black Americans. Acknowledge that "maybe a few" have, due in part to recent events. People are driven away by all examples of public rudeness, arrogance, and incivility. "Usually" color isn't attached to it.

But I can't speak for "many", I can only speak for myself. I see thuggery as a way of getting respect that can't be gotten any other way. The simple equation is, give someone something more interesting to do and they won't spend as much time on thuggery.

Disagree on all counts. Up until a few days ago I would have used Bill Cosby as a counterexample.

And, ain't it interesting the timing of this recent smearing?

Hm.

 

What a screwy concept: "caring about black Americans". It's not as if they have autism or some other handicap.
I honor and respect viable persons who are engaged in the pursuit of their own development and maturation. I take this to be what all of those mythical guys like Jesus, Krishna, Buddha, and God expect of us I expect it of myself, and of every other intelligent person alive.
There are a great many who disappoint me. This is not the least bit specific to race, sex, religion, or to any other pigeon hole that we are so fond of sticking people into. Every single one of us has our own cross to bear. There are those who own up to their own existence, and with them I have no issue. For the whiners and sponges, I'm content to just leave them to their own course, while demanding that they keep from interfering with mine.

 

you are on crack if you think that. Most of them support the rioters. The big black thug die and offiecer Wilson is a hero. get over it dude.

 

It is amazing how many have got things backwards. The Michael Browns are the problems. Sure we can blame his race, or blame his community or even blame his parents. But in the end, it was only Michael Brown that is to blame for his death. If Michael Brown had not stolen a hand full of cigarillos he would be alive today. If he hadn't assaulted the store owner, or not walked in the center of the street. If he hadn't attempted to assault a police officer as he attempt to get out of his vehicle. If he hadn't tried to grab the officer's gun. If he hadn't attempted to run from the officer. If he hadn't then turned and taunted the officer. If he hadn't then charged at the officer. If he had not done all those things he would be alive today.

Michael Brown's biggest problem - the problem that caused his death - a lack of respect. When I was raising my sons, I told them, "to get respect you have to give respect." One day my youngest son told me I had things backwards. He said that he wasn't giving anyone respect until they show him respect first. He told me, that's how you survive on the streets. You have to love it when a 16 year old tells a 40 year old what it takes to survive on the streets. I told him, "that's not how you survive. That's how you die." Michael Brown learned that fatal lesson the hard way. He did not respect the store owner, and he did not respect the police. His lack of respect made him make some decisions that cost him his life. So, you are wrong. Michael Brown is the problem.

But he is not the only problem. He did not come by that lack of respect on his own. It was learned from his family. It was learned from his peers, and his community. He learned it from the race-baiters. There needs to be a dialogue to change the perception of race, but that dialogue must begin within the African-American Community. The community needs to start pushing the ideology of mutual respect. Only after the community starts showing respect, can they expect to see respect. You can't respect a race that does not respect themselves.

 

Key words there are "He would've been found innocent." If there is corruption in our Judicial System, it's the Incarceration quota

Basically, the D.A wants a conviction, they don't press charges until they can get a conviction. You won't find a single DA taking a losing case, it costs the State money. The worst is wrongful convictions! Suits in the Millions.

Besides, the DA threw every charge in the book. He wasn't really tossing the towel, he was practicing "defensive law" if you will. By putting the onus on the GJ, he avoided looking like an idiot as in Florida.

Favorites weren't played, the DA went above and beyond for a non-winnable case.

 

I'm in agreement that MB caused his own death. When I said he wasn't the problem, I meant that he's not the reason behind all of the protest activity at its root, but rather the catalyst they chose to use to steamroll the message. It could have been any black youth, but this one made national TV and was able to be turned into a cause, albeit one with very poor representation on the part of Brown for his own actions that led to his death. You're right though, the change will have to start from within and expand outward.

 

Funny but my sister and I were raised pretty liberally without any racial animus in the family and one of my Sister's kids ended up racist because of his experiences with blacks in public schools.

 

That's complete bull(*)(*)(*)(*). The racist vitriol that has flowed from the right since November 2008 is glaring evidence what is also wrong with America.
The disgusting filth that passes for right-wing commentary about black America is plain to see on this forum.

 

Joe, the first step toward healing is recognizing there is a problem, then taking responsibility for it. Almost 50% of all gun crime happens in the black community and mostly against other black people. They are around 13 percent of the population. The easiest way to enable this is to just blame others.

 

When a group of people purposely force their race into a thug life they get what they deserve.

 

Well said.

I don't like seeing people rejecting blacks by saying there is no problem, but at the same time I don't blame anyone for not caring right now, after the behavior we see on television.

Of course, these idiots who are rioting, looting and burning are not who most black people want representing them (if I'm wrong, someone please correct me because that changes everything), but they are the loudest right now, and they are the only representation the media is allowing to shine.

Members of the black community who are begging these people not to act this way are being ignored.
The only positive thing we could see in all this... is unfortunately not the type of fodder the media searches for.

If we saw outrage over black on black murder, credibility would increase tremendously. But thousands of those are ignored every month while every other year they find one white-on-black crime to put all their anger and energy into.

There is a problem, and it's a big one.
But they are the only ones who can fix it.

 

I like 99% of the blacks I deal with in my day to day life, about the same percentage as any other race. That being said the race baiters of the black caucus and the media shills could go over a cliff on a bus and I would not shed a tear

 

Of course you do. Accusations of racism are your every response.

 

That's the way most people behave, since we tend to be egocentric, which is why the interminable racist filth that some people spout is so depressing. You realize that all those whites who tar blacks with their crude, racist attitudes, and all those blacks who do the same to whites, are sick, crippled people and they are two sides of the same coin.

 

What a shock. I'm getting called a racist because I'm not a fan of the thug culture many blacks embrace. It's a predictable progressive tactic, just as feminists cry "sexism" if you disagree with them.

 

You've been told by "two friends?"

Well then, it must be true.

 

Up until the last few days I have had some sympathy for the Blacks, not anymore. I am sick of the Black thug culture, the jiving and babble. The stupidity of burning your neighborhood down is unbelievable and mind numbing. They have fallen for the Liberal victim ology. They are not going to get anymore then token help from the Liberal Democrats, just enough for bait.

 

The Liberal 'base' of the party are nothing more than Anarchists disrupting the political process. Have you ever wondered what government would be like W/O the lobbyists, the LBGT movement, PT Moms, etc. The whole lot of them!

In 2009, Obama wanted an infrastructure bill, and caved to Feminists wanting more female provisions. Result: No infrastructure in the bill.

I'm now of the opinion that if you want to participate in US politics, you must do so from the actual branches of government as opposed to these anarchic lynch mobs.

Lynch mobs=bad for America. The last 48 hours have been an eyesore.

 

Let me use Hurricane Katrina as an example why you are wrong.
Thousands upon thousands or Americans rallied, signed up to volunteer and went to help those in need, regardless of color of skin.
And we would do it again. Our compassion for those in need is what makes us strong. Don't believe all the hype and what you hear and read. Good news doesn't make for high ratings.
Go out and about. People smile at each other, talk to each other, interact with each other, regardless of color.

 

Not much of an argument to support calling him "wrong".

He said blacks.... then you respond using an example of all skin colors.

Katrina was not a race-based issue (except for Kanye) full of riots, fires, theft and hatred.
Poor comparison.