Conceited CCW holders

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by Aleksander Ulyanov, Oct 22, 2014.

  1. Steady Pie

    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2012
    Messages:
    24,509
    Likes Received:
    7,250
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    What have you got against back alley sales of guns with the serial numbers filed off, without any sort of background or age check?

    Leave people alone.
     
  2. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2009
    Messages:
    92,732
    Likes Received:
    74,164
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    But in places like here in Australia you have to know someone who knows someone who might have that kind of gun

    That reduces yours odds of actually acquiring one by a great deal - unless of course you want to go the shortcut and sign up with a gang (Bike or otherwise) and just join the underground crime world while signing your are over to the local drug lord
     
  3. Steady Pie

    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2012
    Messages:
    24,509
    Likes Received:
    7,250
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Of course - imprisoning people who own an item generally reduces the pool from which said item can be stolen.
     
  4. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2009
    Messages:
    92,732
    Likes Received:
    74,164
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    They only go to prison if they have broken the law
     
  5. galant

    galant Banned

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2014
    Messages:
    876
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    0
    newsflash for you. 90+% of crime is NOT violent, and 3/4 of it is victimless (ie, dope, guns, prostitution, gambling, etc). why aint JUST the violence enough to get them a life sentence, hmm? it's good enough to shoot them to death for, on the spot. So why aint it enough to give them life for? Me, I'm for closing all the prisons and just using horsewhipping, first 2 times, if it's not too serious an offense. If it's the 3rd time or really heinous crime, sawed off 410 to the base of the skull. Rubber bag over head to catch the mess. strap them into a chair,and several people pressing buttons at the same time, with a random juice generator disguising the actual initiation of the movemet of the cam that fires the gun.
     
  6. Steady Pie

    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2012
    Messages:
    24,509
    Likes Received:
    7,250
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    ?? One would hope. Extrajudicial imprisonment is wrong.
     
  7. galant

    galant Banned

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2014
    Messages:
    876
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    0
    grinding or filing numbers does not suffice. the number can still be "raised' later by police.. You must centerpunch and drill each numeral, or carefully run over them with Tig welder. when guys steal a gun, there's no need to obliterate the serial number and to do so is a dead giveaway that something is illegal about that sale. Just the simple possession of a gun with a messed over serial number is a 5 year Federal felony. The presumption at law is that the gun's possessor committed the obliteration of the number.
     
  8. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2012
    Messages:
    107,541
    Likes Received:
    34,488
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Using even that link if true, CCW holders are responsible for 3/10 of a percent of deaths. Even your link says the same thing I did.

    There is no interest among the gun grabbers to even know since that is not their agenda.
     
  9. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2009
    Messages:
    92,732
    Likes Received:
    74,164
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Oh! So. It is ok because more other people do it huh?

    Good logic
     
  10. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2012
    Messages:
    107,541
    Likes Received:
    34,488
    Trophy Points:
    113
    That makes CCW holders a very small minority of all gun deaths compared to the number of CCW holders. Their study is flawed anyway because they count people from States that don't have CCW license requirements.
     
  11. galant

    galant Banned

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2014
    Messages:
    876
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    0
    since there should not BE any license required to defend yourself, the study is not flawed (because of that). The real thing antigunners IGNORE, is the million+ per year times that guns stop crime (without anybody being hit with a bullet, or even a shot fired) I've stopped punks several times, merely by showing them that they were going to get shot if they didn't stop.
     
  12. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2012
    Messages:
    107,541
    Likes Received:
    34,488
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I have a couple of friends that have also stopped attempted robberies by just showing them their firearm.
     
  13. SiNNiK

    SiNNiK Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2014
    Messages:
    10,432
    Likes Received:
    4,547
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I was nearly mugged at a drive thru 20 something years ago. Showed him my Dan Wesson, he stopped.
     
  14. stjames1_53

    stjames1_53 Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2012
    Messages:
    12,736
    Likes Received:
    51
    Trophy Points:
    0
    so, how many times has your gun been used in a commission of a crime?
    No, you are anti-Rights......you may surrender your Right. Two things, that is your Right to do so, but you have no Right to even suggest that everyone else should do so because you are getting nervous, and you probably shouldn't own. Only people with strong convictions should own. They tend to be more reliable and safer than someone who is read to simply walk their guns down to the police station so they can resell them to the public.
    BTW, how much are you asking for the .45?
     
  15. stjames1_53

    stjames1_53 Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2012
    Messages:
    12,736
    Likes Received:
    51
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I've thought hard about this. I say if someone dies in the commission of a crime with firearm, sentence should be a televised execution by firing squad. All guns fully loaded.........

    - - - Updated - - -

    sure it does. It shows we can get things done without government interference..............
     
  16. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2009
    Messages:
    92,732
    Likes Received:
    74,164
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Hmmmmm - and these "punks" were threatening you how???

    And how did you "show them"??

    [​IMG]

    The errr phenomena is well recognised
     
  17. nimdabew

    nimdabew Member

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2012
    Messages:
    604
    Likes Received:
    8
    Trophy Points:
    18
    I can pull pictures from the internet too.

    [​IMG]

    #fistbump
     
  18. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2009
    Messages:
    92,732
    Likes Received:
    74,164
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    And you need this why?????
     
  19. SiNNiK

    SiNNiK Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2014
    Messages:
    10,432
    Likes Received:
    4,547
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    To protect those near and dear to me from violence. Why isn't that obvious to you?

    - - - Updated - - -

    Hilarious.
     
  20. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2009
    Messages:
    92,732
    Likes Received:
    74,164
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    No not obvious at all. Funny thing is residence of Australia, England, Europe, Japan, most of South East Asia a gun like that is NOT needed

    And just because the NRA told you so does not make it needed in America

    NRA's secret motto - one born every minute!!!
     
  21. SiNNiK

    SiNNiK Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2014
    Messages:
    10,432
    Likes Received:
    4,547
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Yeah because there is no violence in Australia, huh? Don't you have an aboriginal baby to steal?
     
  22. stjames1_53

    stjames1_53 Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2012
    Messages:
    12,736
    Likes Received:
    51
    Trophy Points:
    0
    shall we talk about Australia's bloody history? I wonder how many aborigines were massacred.....I believe we call it genocide today............ all for a little property. Since they were damned near successful, they don't need their guns anymore. Imagine those stupid natives bringing spears and slings to a gun fight.
     
  23. SiNNiK

    SiNNiK Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2014
    Messages:
    10,432
    Likes Received:
    4,547
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    All those families devastated having their children stolen, all because Aussies figured they'd stick their nose into something that was none of their business. Kinda like now. If they are nothing else, they sure are "hard learners".
     
  24. nimdabew

    nimdabew Member

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2012
    Messages:
    604
    Likes Received:
    8
    Trophy Points:
    18
    To prove a point. Ignorance is no excuse.
     
  25. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2009
    Messages:
    92,732
    Likes Received:
    74,164
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    No one has managed to explain why the gun depicted was in any way neccessary
     

Share This Page