Rand Paul 'Is Totally Overrated' For 2016

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  1. Steady Pie

    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Paul's biggest problem will be that he doesn't go 100% for either side. On some issues the left likes him, on most the right do. That's a problem, especially in primaries.

    Also, the establishment would prefer someone a little less... eccentric.
     
  2. RP12

    RP12 Well-Known Member

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    Controlled you mean.
     
  3. Steady Pie

    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I didn't want to be so... truthful.

    If Rand Paul wins I will uproot my life and move to the US, no doubt about it.
     
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    That is a nice endorsement hah!
     
  5. Agent_286

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    Actually yes: President Barack Obama was always against the Iraq War

    "As a member of the state senate in Illinois, he expressed his vocal opposition, calling it a foolish decision by President Bush; and when he joined the U.S. senate in 2004, he voted against the surge and against additional funding for expanding the war. In 2008, as a candidate, he promised he would end our involvement in Iraq if he were elected, and that is what he did."
    http://www.answers.com/Q/How_did_barack_obama_vote_on_invasion_of_iraq

    further:

    "In October of 2002 - months before the war began in Iraq - State Senator Obama opposed possible action there. He stated that while he did not oppose all wars, he opposed a dumb war. Later that year, he stated in an interview that he opposed going to war in Iraq unilaterally, and asked what it would mean to remain in Iraq long term and attempt to nation build there. In a 2004 interview, State Senator Obama was running for the Illinois Senate seat and stated that he would have voted against the Iraq war resolution had he been in office.

    As a US Senator, Barack Obama twice voted against the surge strategy in Iraq. He also voted in favor of a resolution to require troops to remain at home a given amount of time before being redeployed to Iraq. In March of 2007, Senator Obama voted in favor of a resolution to require redeployment of troops from Iraq to begin within 90 days. In September of 2007, he also voted in favor of and co-sponsored a resolution to require the removal of troops from Iraq to start within 90 days.

    During the 2008 election, Senator Obama repeatedly called for a phased withdrawal of troops from Iraq. Numerous times, President Obama stated that he would call the military leaders into his office on the first day of his Presidency and give them the order to withdraw from Iraq. He asserted that his plan would call for the withdrawal of 1-2 brigades per month and take approximately 16 months to complete. This would have removed the troops from Iraq around May of 2010, and was a repeated theme of the 2008 election.

    Under President Obama, the number of troops in Iraq were withdrawn from about 140,000 when he took office to roughly 50,000 troops in September of 2010. the remaining US troops were pulled out at the end of 2011. Roughly 3,000 troops remained in the country to protect diplomats and train Iraqis. Roughly 5,000 private security contractors also remain in the country."
    http://www.thepoliticalguide.com/Profiles/President/US/Barack_Obama/Views/The_War_in_Iraq/
    .....
    to follow: Your assertions concerning Hillary Clinton....
     
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    Phoebe Bump New Member

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    It doesn't matter, they were all lied to. The intelligence was form-fitted to the policy. Don't you read the papers?
     
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    Rand Paul would be the candidate most likely to be immune from partisan blindness. His is what Barry Lightworker Obama claimed to be but never remotely was.
     
  8. The12thMan

    The12thMan Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I know you realize that none of this supports your original contention about pbama voting against going to war in Iraq.



    I wait with bated breath.

    You can make mistakes and still be credible. It's just when you hang onto mistakes like a pit bull that you lose credibility.
     
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    Probably, but Americans aren't happy without warfare somewhere.
     

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