Here is how China deals with minimum wage

I think the Right would also approve of how China deals with attempts to unionize by workers:

By having the government arrest and execute people who try it.

 

These are not paid by the consumer........they are paid by the seller...

 

Riiight...

What happens to the cost of the product when the cost of production increases?

http://www.ctnewsjunkie.com/archives/entry/the_aptly_named_gross_receipts_tax/

 

I was just stating a fact............

gross receipts tax are nothing more that a sales tax equivalence.......

and I cannot find any states that have these on gas..........

help me on this

 

Fixed with a link.

 

Unless the business is literally losing money, nothing is paid for by the seller.

 

So 1 liberal state added another layer of taxation and I am supposed to be surprised how?

Not even sure how we veered to this subject..........

Gross receipts tax can take many different meanings........

For instance in Texas............its also know as "remodel" tax

They tax materials and labor the full sales tax amount on remodeling construction................and it must be paid by the General Contractor.

 

Jebus

I know this........

Its a tax that has already been passed on to the buyer.

Its just an additional taxation layer before the end users price is set.

 

But a lot more people COULD be a waiter as opposed to being a engineer, a computer tech, etc. Because being a waiter does not require as many skills, and is thus easier for people to learn.

And that is the point I am trying to make: As more and more 'involved' jobs get replaced or exported, people will have fewer and fewer options on other career fields to retrain into. I believe that more people would be able to become a waiter, a customer service rep, etc, then could become a engineer, and soon enough, those may be the only jobs left.

Or do you disagree with me?

 

History disagrees with you. There are always menial jobs that are just too difficult to build a machine to do or that require a human touch. Companies will automate what they can, but they'll still need people for parts of the process. Marx argued that automated looms would put people out of work. Those people just moved on to other jobs, and were all able to afford more clothing since the price of cloth came down. And even modern automated looms require humans to set up, prep, monitor and take down - all menial tasks and all requiring human labor.

The same is true in other automated industries - some humans are replaced, but some are still needed to keep everything moving or to do the tasks that are just too complicated to automate.

There will also be specialized menial production niches that will use human labor as well. For instance, most cars are made mostly by machine, but a couple of companies still specialize in handmade cars. The same is true in most industries. While automation of ordering and delivery of meals is great for fast food or for novelty restaurants, nicer places will always use human wait staff because that is what customers will want and expect.

Automation will replace some jobs, but that won't necessarily put those workers out of the job market - other jobs exist or will come out.

 

Sure, there will be other jobs. But will there be the same AMOUNT of jobs, or even more?

Because if not, then there will be more people without jobs, and those that have those jobs will be paid less because there is even more competition for them.

What will be, will be, I guess.

But, if you have children, it's probably a good idea to drill into their heads the importance of education, and of not making ANY mistakes in life. As a single life mistake could doom them for the rest of theirs.

 

Why not just reserve labor through a form of minimum wage instead?

That way, the least efficient who may be the least wealty can pursue other goals that may be beneficial to our economy instead of merely creating more supply than demand for labor in those markets.

 

Pay a minimum wage to not work for able bodied adults? Look at the poverty in cities across the US and tell us how these welfare slugs are using this as an opportunity to improve America.

 

What State could be worse off with better aqueducts and better roads.

 

Same amount of jobs? I'm not sure. What has happened over the past several hundred years where people were pushing the same fear of automation that I see in this thread, what happened is that new industries were created with the surplus labor, allowing for jobs in industries that people never would have even considered before.

For instance, in the late 1800s over 70% of workers were in agriculture. Today about 2% are. There isn't a 68% unemployment rate, so the people that would be involved in agriculture today if we didn't have modern automation must have found some kind of work. What automation gave was a lot of surplus labor that allowed for industries that would have been impossible under a less automated model. The entire computer and electronics industry we have today would have been impossible without the massive amount of automation that we have in agriculture and manufacturing. The people currently in computer industries would have been needed to produce food and wouldn't have been available to take on a computer job - thus without automation we wouldn't be posting on this forum.

I don't know how much more the computer and electronics industry will be able to expand with more available labor. I don't know what future industry will appear to make use of the available labor, or if something will prevent them from developing. I just know that in the past, automation has freed up labor, allowing for new industries that no one would have considered possible before. Based on the past, it is pretty easy to believe that continued automation will do the same in the future.

 

In the US, we could use underground mass transit for goods, services and passengers, that is maglev capable and in a vacuum environment: better aqueducts and better roads.

 

Many of those jobs would be temporary. Once built, they would not need as many people to maintain it.

Good idea, though.

 

That's the only thing that worries me.

I'm not really worried about myself. I work for a company that COULD outsource/automate, but because our customer base doesn't like automation (and because my company is a Gold-Star company that cares about their employees), I'm feeling safe about my job.

Not everyone can say the same.

 

The Left wing solution is, I don't care we'll demand $15.00 an hour, plus benefits anyway.

 

Only some on the left believe that; the rest believe we should engender full employment of resources in our market for labor by using socialism to bailout capitalism like usual.

 

These *****s just demonstrate how did they steal technologies of others. The Japanese have already done it. Long ago. Moreover, Chinese waiters seem to work for rice without wage or tips. China is a real threat for our economical system.

 

No need to use the robots if the lefties will abandon their stupid crusade to force fast food workers to be paid much more than they deserve.

 

not gonna happen anytime soon. the start up costs for a dumb truck is already so high that buying a house is cheaper.

a new trailer is $30k and it doesn't open itself, change it's own light or check it's own tires and brakes. a new truck is running about $120k and they can't even check their own oil. the only cheap part on a truck is the nut behind the wheel. make it so it can run on it's own and it will cost more than paying two people to run it.

 

if your phone types two instead of too, a gas tanker doesn't take a turn onto a railroad track.

 

there won't be any business owned by one person when you need Bill Gates money to open a yogurt stand.