If God was real he would show up and sort it out. But since God is just an imaginary character his con men will continue to blow smoke and keep the superstitious folks doing their bidding. It has worked for thousands of years so why stop now?
This writer has done a good job of deception. Evangelicals have prayer meetings for the conversion of the Jews ... They believe that Jesus will return if all Jews move to the Holy Lands.. then, 2/3rds of them will die.
Ok, so first things first, the quote is too long, and the points made should be summarised in the actual text (rule 11, quotes should be used to support an opinion, not replace it). Secondly, this CAMERA group has a confirmed bias for Israel. While that doesn't make it wrong, the tone of the text indicates more bias than necessary to me.
This is an attack on Sabeel which is a Christian mission in Galilee. . They don't care if its a one state solution or a two state solution ... just a solution.. Ateef has written a solid unbiased book called "A Palestinian Christian Cry for Reconciliation"... Its worth reading... and their presentations and lectures are NOT aimed at evangelicals,,
Indeed. Given the ongoing murders of Christians by Muslims around the world, it's extremely foolish for any Christian to believe there is some means of compromise with the muslim death cultists, whether they're posing as 'Christians' themselves or as non-existent 'moderate muslims'. Their great 'prophet' exhorts the anmals to lie and distort their positions for as long as it takes to lull their enemies into a false sense of security and then massacre them. This has been their pattern throughout history, and they're no different now, just because some credulous hippies from the Burbs read some propaganda somewhere that appeals to their fantasies about the real world and 'people are the same everywhere' nonsense. Several pastors have been warning their congregations about the campaign to subvert Christianity and turn it into 'Chrislam';
Sabeel is very even handed .. that's who I meant. If you have a chance to attend a lecture, its very conciliatory.. - - - Updated - - - Have you read A Christian Palestinian Cry for Reconciliation.. or are you just spouting nonsense? If you read the book, read Sermon on the Mount first.
According to their website, they have no outspoken stance on Israel, but their wikipedia page says "CAMERA is known for its pro-Israel media monitoring and advocacy.[4][5][6][7]". The wikipedia page also includes a list of people criticising CAMERA as vividly as they criticise reporting of the Middle east. The wiki page also includes a number of sources to this effect. That being said, my problem with the text is not that it is pro something or other, plenty of groups are, but that they don't see fit to provide a balanced representation of their opponents. That tells me that they think their style of reporting is more persuasive than their actual arguments.
The Evangelical's will dump the Jewish as soon as it is advantageous, you assume that Christian ideals are at stake, a fallacy perpetuated by right and swallowed by the gullable sheep. Israel need's to man up an make a plan for peace and work toward it because eventually they will lose their support from the US so we can extricate ourselves for that morass that is the Middle East. We do not have a single friend in the area, never have and that includes Israel.
Oh Gad... are you promoting the idea that ALL Muslims are guilty of 9/11? That's as stupid as claiming all Jews are guilty of the attack on the USS Liberty.
Don't try to distort my words. One can be strongly pro-American and pro-Israel and at the very same time love Arabs/Moslems. For instance the Moslem Kurds or the IDF Arab warriors. And the so-called Western "pro-Palestinians" are neither pro-Arab nor pro-Moslem, they merely hate the Jews. Practically none of them has ever demanded Spain to return the occupied cities of Ceuta and Melilla to their lawful owner - the Arab State of Morocco. Or has ever condemned the genocide of Moslems in Angola, in Burma, in Central African Republic...
You are dead wrong... Most people do NOT "just hate Jews"... They hate Israeli policies and the endless bloodshed.. Are you actually happy with your excuses?
What exactly are you trying to say here? The post you quoted dealt only in pro- and anti- statements relating to the middle east, Palestine and Israel. You can't fly in some relation to pro-American under the radar and expect people not to notice .The way you say this makes it sound a lot like Margot2 interpreted it. I fail to see what 9/11 has added to the opinion on America, the only impact I can find justified is being anti whoever was responsible for the attacks. That's one of the reasons it looks to me like you're trying to sneak in some opinions without declaring them, opinions which I might disagree with. That's some bold claims. While my stance on Israel/Palestine is not really pro or anti either, the arguments in American politics which I tend to disagree most vividly with (in this discussion) are pro-Israel, yet my most immediate coworker is Jewish and I've joined him and his friends from synagogue for meals, I have joined my girlfriend, who is Jewish, in Menora-lighting this December and so on. I'd like to hear exactly what basis you have for stating that most people like me just hate Jews. And it should be added that my beliefs on the subject have been informed by other westerners (sometimes completely pro-palestine, sometimes not) whose opinions I consider to be consistent without any hatred of Jews, so it's not just me who happens to have a tolerance for Jews. It is true that I am not pro-Muslim or pro-Arab either, my interest in the politics of the Israel/Palestine region is informed mostly by its prevalence in media. I have actually discussed the situation in Morocco and Angola with the kind of opinions you seem to be suggesting, but my basis for my opinion on Israel/Palestine is based on the involved parties as humans, regardless of race. That being said, it should be pointed out that the extent to which I talk about a subject on the internet is not strongly correlated to the extent to which I think the subject is important. I think starving children in Africa is way more important than middle eastern nationalism, but everybody already agrees with that, everybody already knows that the solutions are hard and since there is no economic interest from the rest of the world, nobody writes a lot about it.
Really ? I could not express it better myself. And "pro-Palestinian" ? Is the very term "Palestine" not anti-Semitic ? It was cooked up by the genocidal murderer Hadrian to erase not only the Jewish State, but the very word "Israel". Hadrian also "renamed" Jerusalem into "Colonia Aelia Capitolina", massacred in cold blood many hundreds of thousands Jews, banned the circumsion and erected the temple to Jupiter on the site of the Jewish Temple. By the way-he also erected the temple to Aphrodite on the place where the Christians had venerated the tomb of Jesus.
I see, because there are anti-Semites in the Palestinian areas that paints the entire population unworthy of consideration. Good, then that means that all whites are wrong in America and are responsible for all the civil rights violations of the past 500 years. We should have listened to the British and let the factions duke it out themselves in 1947 instead of forming Israel, not our monkey, not our circus. Name one thing we have gained in this exchange. Make them make a deal instead of enabling the violence.
I don't support Isreal or Palestine, one practices an outdated religon and one practices a wrong religion,both have no right to exist
And that's bad because...? The Israelites stole Jerusalem from the Jebusites. The Israelites were always committing genocides against the locals so they set the example that genocide was OK. Why should they get special consideration because it happens to them when they never showed any mercy to their victims? Let God and Allah come forth to duke it out between themselves. They used to fight all the time now they hide in caves somewhere like scared little mice.
