I think I understand why conservatives have more children than liberals now

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  1. Rainbow Crow

    Rainbow Crow New Member Past Donor

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    This was a long time in coming for me. I was talking to a liberal woman who is considering becoming a Muslim and when I asked her what she thought of something that Muhammad supposedly said in a haditha, she said "who?" but, I digress.

    This woman and most of the other liberals and hipsters I know either have or are well into the process of squandering their lives. They also think that having children is the greatest challenge that anyone could possibly face and they tend to postpone or forego having children themselves because they're perpetually unready, no matter how old or well-funded they might be.

    Meanwhile, Mr. and Mrs. Conservative are off having several children and besides for the being conservates part that makes liberals wail, their kids are mostly turning out okay.

    Now, the conservative couple, those guys are way more boring and uncool than the liberals. It occurred to me that Mr. and Mrs. Conservative probably forewent doing drugs and (*)(*)(*)(*)ing dirty people entirely on their own, while Kid Liberal fought against his parents, escaped, did drugs, got herpes and wasted his life on some liberal arts crap he never used.

    Move forward past the youthful party years, the conservatives don't fear having children because if their children act as they did, they could have a hundred kids and they'd all stay out of trouble on their own. Meanwhile, the liberal could have one child, watch it 24 hours a day and if it acted as their parent did growing up, the kid would escape and ruin his or her life anyway.

    As such, the conservatives don't fear having many children while the liberals are terrified of the thought of having even one... this is because everyone fundamentally expects their kids to behave as they did when they were kids themselves. Meanwhile, the cringing evocation of the 18th century nature vs. nurture dialectic that liberals employ in an attempt to deflect every mote of responsibility towards someone other than the actor is a defense mechanism. The liberal's reliance upon nature vs. nurture is their way of assuring themselves that their own inadequacies and failures weren't their own fault, therefore they might be able to succeed as "parents" but inside they know the truth.
     
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    Athelite Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think it's cuz conservatives preach abstinence but end up having children from unprotected sex.
     
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    PatrickT Well-Known Member

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    I think it's because liberals have to be taught to masturbate in public school. Conservatives have been able to master that skill for generations. The real reason liberals don't have a lot of children is that it means sharing what you have instead of sharing what someone else has. This also explains why liberals on the dole are free to have a lot of children if they choose.
     
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    The inner city is filled with conservatives? Who knew!
     
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    rwild1967 Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    Wow. Congratulations. That is one of the longest best written pieces of bull(*)(*)(*)(*) flame bait I have read since yesterday. I think it wins the retarded post of the day award.
     
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    I'm only slightly to the right of Gen. George S. Patton... and I have to tell you , this make absolutely NO sense to me at all. I think you've successfully insulted both left and right at the same time. rwild1967 is right... this is bovine excrement.
     
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    Liberals dont care about Children,Some liberal states have state standardized testing to see if they can graduate high school which is sickening in my opinion, Conservatives have more children to repelinsh gods earth,they also care for children properly
     
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    Pardy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That would explain why teenage pregnancies are more common in "abstinence-only" states.
     
  9. Lil Mike

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    Fertility seems to be tied to religiosity, at least since the advent of birth control. If you are a secular liberal who has nothing but contempt for the concept of family, what possible reason would you have one?
     
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    Flaming Moderate New Member Past Donor

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    OK, now I'll pull the BS Flag. The only thing secular liberals hold in contempt is hypocritical conservatives. I'm married to bleeding heart and she has more compassion and understanding than the whole of your typical Bible Thumping congregation.

    We taught each of our two sons to care for others and the planet as good stewards and do it with deeds, not words. We are blessed today with 9 Grandchildren, 7 of whom happen to be adopted. There has been times when it was necessary for us to help raise the Grandkids as their parents struggled with jobs and difficulties in life. We also had to help raise two of our Great Grandkids while their parents went through a couple of years of a rough patch. That liberal secularist wife of mine has raised 3 generations in this house and the door stands open to any of the family that needs help.

    Your sanctimonious attitude is an insult to loving, caring mothers everywhere.
     
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    Flaming Moderate New Member Past Donor

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    I'm not going to let that one pass. The only thing that secular liberals hold in contempt is hypocritical conservatives. I'm married to a Bleeding Heart and there are few in the world more giving and supportive of her family. She raised our two sons with values and ethics to care for family, for people and the planet we live on. As a result of her teachings, we are blessed with 9 Grandchildren 7 of which happen to be adopted. We now also have 3 Great Grandkids. We have needed to taken in, support, and help raise Grandkids and Great Grandkids as their parents have struggled with job loss, serious illness, and other trials of life. That makes 3 generations of kids that secular liberal has loved, nurtured, taught and raised in this house. I'll pit her morals, ethics and values against any congregation of Bible Thumpers you care to chose.

    Your sanctimonious post is an insult to Mothers everywhere.
     
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    I think you are reading either way too much or way too little into what I wrote. So I'm not sure what you are seeing as sanctimonious or what in particular I wrote that you are pulling "the BS Flag."

    Basically I made what I thought was a pretty non controversial and easily observable statement about demography that for some reason, you took a personal offense to. Frankly, I can't be bothered to try to explain common sense to every hot head who thinks his one anecdote trumps statistics. If you think I'm wrong, why wouldn't you bring some data to the table instead of some story about one secular grandma?

    Think religion is in decline? Look at who is ‘going forth and multiplying’
     
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    """"I think I understand why conservatives have more children than liberals now""""


    Because they think abstinence is the only method of birth control....
     
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    Cool story bro?
     
  15. Rainbow Crow

    Rainbow Crow New Member Past Donor

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    There's a lot of things that liberals hold in esteem that drive them to hold conservatives in contempt.

    Namely, seeking free birth control and abortion will naturally align you against conservatives. But when preventing/killing conception/fetus is a part of your ideology, you shouldn't be shocked that your ideology produced far fewer children than the other guys.

    As I said in the OP, liberals are afraid to have even one kid because they're never "ready to be a parent." Being ready to be a parent isn't something that requires a license, no, the very idea that readiness is even relevant is an artificial construct.

    Libs don't have kids because they know they'll never be ready for a child that is like they were. They are usually little terrors who obsesses over their parent's failings and their own presumed inability to do better, as if people haven't just paired up, shaken the rain stick at the cousins, dropped some kids and then winged it for a few thousand years without having any fundamental problems crop up.

    To make matters even more pathetic, the liberals want to legalize things like pot and transsexual bathrooms that will definitely impact kid's lives... if they were intending to have children. Come to think of it, I don't think I have ever talked to someone who wants to legalize pot who has or wants to have kids. Having things like that in the environment makes being a parent harder and we have the non-parent crowd to thank for that.
     
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    Well, your OP is full of BS too. Looking at the latest birth rate statistics show non-Hispanic White births comprise only 54.1% of US births. So unless the Conservative demographics have radically changed in the last couple of months or you are now under the silly ass assumption that all whites are conservatives, then like every other study done in the last 15 years, conservatives are a dying breed. Here is a link to my source, how about yours.

    http://kff.org/other/state-indicator/births-by-raceethnicity/
     
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