Why do they let birthers keep going with Obama's Birth Certificate?

I guess so I'm interested though. You seem to know quite a bit. I'm learning as I go along.

This is from a website called Birther Report. I remember when this happened, I thought itwas HINKY.

http://www.birtherreport.com/2015/01/pulitzer-shattering-dots-connected-in.html

 

Most presidents have never released their college transcripts.. Bush's were released by accident.

Your school records and mine are also sealed..

 

Walid Shoebat is a complete fraud.. You can go to the US state dept files on line about "travel warnings" and the date back for years. There never was a travel ban to Pakistan.. It was a warning about delays because of changes in the length of time visas were issued.

So often these birthers NEVER check any facts.. These boobs still think the international school Obama attended in Indonesia was a Muslim school.. or they don't understand that when Obama got his first US passport in 1967, his birth certificate was required.. NONE of the birthers have traveled.. NONE of them have read the statutes.. NONE of them know that British East India had no international airport in 1961 or the air travel restrictions on women immediately before and after childbirth.. In short its the dumb convincing the dumb that Obama is a fraud..

 

Now you understand PNs evidence that a computer generated document is worthless as a legal document in any court of law due to it's ability to be easily manipulated as this one has been.

Given enough rope the foolish will eventually hang themselves with their own folly.

 

So in other words, you have absolutely no logical explanation for these strange anomalies on the computer-generated fraud posted on the White House website. If the only evidence Obama has presented to the world of his Hawaiian birth is a computer-generated fraud then is it not reasonable to question why? Can you not give one logical explanation? Watch the videos and you will understand. Those who don't will never know what they are talking about.

 

So you can't help but pepper in a little bigotry into the conversation? At least the Christians know that Obama is not a god.

 

Yeah I wondered about that too.

 

Here's another expert who says it is a forgery and why:

[video=youtube;ZCjAmEgjkUc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCjAmEgjkUc[/video]​

 

I must have missed where this document was presented in evidence into any court of law.

and I missed your answer to the question concerning the use of the colon rather than a period in the yellow highlighted paragraph. Can you point me to a post number that contains your reply to that question?

 

Nathan Goulding, chief technology officer of the National Review magazine - a pretty conservative magazine - laughs at your silliness and says, " "that whoever scanned the birth certificate in Hawaii forgot to turn off the OCR setting on the scanner."

I notice that none of your links ever quote guys like him. I wonder why?

 

Most of my links prove that Nathan Goulding, if that is his name, would be wrong, because there is no text layers in the entire document. You didn't provide a link.

[video=youtube;L7k8T7tjTEg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7k8T7tjTEg[/video]​

 

You continue to lie, claiming this is about a document. Don't you even know the difference between a document and a computer graphic? That is the first reason why your rantings are full of crap.

 

That very well could be the fact. I am sure since you did the research you have at hand the sources for you own contention. Of course the truth is in his application for Columbia, which of course no one can see.

I only read online somewhere, that if you took Indonesian citizen you had to give up your original citizenship. Which would have taken away his US citizen, if indeed that did happen. Of course, this could be easily verified, by looking into Indonesian records, right? And if this had been the case, surely all of these conservatives who have been trying to prove he was not an American citizen surely would have thought of that.

Personally speaking, I never thought for a moment he was not an American citizen, but just throwing it out there for the people who are still convinced even with the evidence, that he is a fraud.

I am glad to see though, that the Indonesians require being able to speak their language, as we should do here.

 

the document is what is important, is it not? But regardless, has anyone offered the computer graphic as evidence of anything in any court proceedings?

And why won't you comment about the colon in your yellow highlighted document? And why won't you show me one supreme court majority opinion that states that both parents of a child born in the US must be US citizens in order to give the child natural born status? Why are you continuing to avoid those two fairly simple questions????

 

The lie in your assumption is claiming this is a 'document'. The fact remains that no controlling legal authority has even been presented with any document.

 

actually, I just read a Supreme Court case that was on point. I, of course, cannot remember the name of it, but the gist of the case was a Swedish girl, I think, who was born in the US with two Swedish parents. The father went back to Sweden and took the girl with him. He had been naturalized as a US citizen but renounced it once he moved back to Sweden and reestablished his Swedish citizenship. The girl, later, moved back to the US and INS attempted to deport her for overstaying her visa and she filed suit saying she had never given up her American citizenship simply because her father had. The court sided with her and restored her full status as a natural born citizen. It happened during the time of FDR.

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I have never claimed it WAS a document. I am also claiming that no controlling legal authority has ever gone to court and gotten any judge to demand that Obama produce the real document.

And what about that colon? Are you ever going to address it or just run away like a girlie man?

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and how are we coming on getting that supreme court majority opinion concerning both parents needing to be citizens for the child to be considered a natural born citizen? Any luck there?

 

Not an expert. Hasn't seen the document.

No expert has ever declared it a forgery.

 

This is false, another lie. Provide the case and show "natural-born citizen ANYWHERE within the ruling or dicta.

You don't even realize it when you lie do you? Why should anyone believe anything you say?

 

Because no such body exists, nor is there any reason to do so if it did.

 

bingo. I had hoped you'd say that. Now YOU provide a case that shows natural born citizen anywhere within the majority ruling that would show that SCOTUS believes that to be a natural born citizen, both parents need to be citizens as well. You've been dodging it for a day or two now.

The document is the document. the computer file is the computer file. I have never gotten them mixed up. I have stated that neither has ever been ordered to be presented in any court of law concerning Obama's citizenship.

Now... tell me about that colon?

 

from Natural Born's signature line:

"The definition of a “natural born Citizen” excludes anyone who is either not born in the country (or its jurisdictional equivalent) or not born to parents (both parents) who are its “citizens” at the time of the child’s birth or both."

where he got that definition is anyone's guess, but it certainly blows the whole issue of Obama's Dad not being a citizen clean out of the water.

 

it does seem like the production quality this "expert" brings to bear in this "scathing" video fits well with the "made in my mom's basement" genre, doesn't it?

 

I'll never understand why these idiots cite YouTube as a source?

This whole section is littered with YouTube videos.

 

It's one in the same with the computer-generated fraudulent document the White House posted on the web which they claim is a copy of the actual birth certificate. Of course, nobody has seen the actual document as it only exists in cyberspace. There is no birth certificate to be examined by anyone.

What they are declaring to be a forgery is that very document that the White House posted.

[video=youtube;3g30VCl_cgk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3g30VCl_cgk[/video]​

 

Proven lie