Why do they let birthers keep going with Obama's Birth Certificate?

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  1. rahl

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    How many times do you need it explained to you that minor v happersett is not a citizenship case, does not define natural born citizen(the ruling specifically points out they are not)and does not support your made up definition?
     
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    their obsession with it has long ago passed into the realm of creepiness, from my perspective. It really is a bunch or retarded people following one another around on a mobius strip.
     
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    You obviously did not read the Opinion of Waite for yourself, it never stated anything about NBC for children born of non citizen parents.

    My mistake, I figured possibly even a Navy guy could figure out that LTC was my shorthand for Lieutenant Commander but that would be for an Army grade above yours. ;-)
     
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    Since ONLY Indonesian citizens and Muslims were permitted to attend school, he must have been a citizen, possibly by adoption (one more record frozen). By Indonesian law, if one acquires Indonesian citizenship, they must renounce all other allegiances (or in the case of a minor, the parent is responsible). Should this be true, based on the forensic evidence, then Barry would have needed to enter Hawaii through Immigration Services as an Indonesian citizen and apply to have his citizenship reinstated. There is no record of him doing so, which may have him as an illegal alien.
     
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    It says that there were other opinions that NBC status might be conferred on children born of non-citizens but it refrained from taking that subject up. Again... you have repeatedly claimed that SCOTUS has definitively ruled on NBC definition and status yet you continue to refuse to produce the SCOTUS opinion which definitively discusses it.

    If you're gonna talk like you know what you're talking about, get things right. Your shorthand would suggest you don't know too much about the military. LTC is shorthand for Lieutenant Colonel, an O-5 in the Army, Marine Corps, and Air Force. LCDR is shorthand for Lieutenant Commander, an O-4 in the Navy. CDR is shorthand for Commander, an O-5 in the Navy, which is my rank.

    And STILL no admission of error regarding your yellow paragraph. really disappointing, I must say.
     
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    Perkins v. Elg would disagree with that flawed analysis.
     
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    That is a LIE.. The International school was NOT Muslim.. and kids from all over the world still attend school there.

    The ONLY ways that Obama could have become and Indonesian citizen was to live there continuously for ten years and be fluent in the language and/or marry an Indonesian citizen.

    Try READING Indonesian Law instead of inventing lies.
     
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    You don't have to be an Indonesian citizen to attend school.
    No such law exists. And if it did it has no effect on US law or US citizenship. Ha parent can't renounce their child's citizenship.
    But it isn't true.
    lol, the retarded things birthers say.
     
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    Perkins was nothing to do with citizenship and was antecedent to Minor.

    The Constitution does not .., say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere ... .. it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves... natural-born citizens,..CHIEF JUSTICE WAITE SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES 88 U.S. 162; 21 Wall. 162
     
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    The lies just keep coming... A child can't renounce his US citizenship.. and acquiring Indonesian citizenship is as I described it below. Why on earth would someone who professes to be a Christian tell so many lies?

    Meanwhile, the international school that Obama attended is co-ed, the teachers wear western dress and follow a western curriculum.

    - - - Updated - - -

    The Minor case is about suffrage and voting.. not citizenship.. Mrs Minor was ALWAYS a US citizen.
     
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    the colon indicates that the following sentences refer specifically to those children that may be born beyond sea. It has nothing to do with children who were born within our borders.

    I'd stick with burger flipping, if I knew as little as you did.

    And why would I ask my sister anything? One of my sisters is an english professor and author and the other is a pampered rich housewife.
     
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    Elg has EVERYTHING to do with citizenship. That is what the entire case is about! Elg was denied citizenship rights because her father had moved her to Sweden and then he renounced his naturalized citizenship status. The supreme court ruled that if she were born in the US, she was a natural born citizen and that status could not be lost simply by the actions of her parents..

    And do me a favor and copy/past the very next three sentences after the Waite quote you just posted. I dare you.
     
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    How is Christianity connect to honesty? It's like that public TV AD "The opposite of poverty is JUSTICE".
    Wow Howdy is that ever stupit.
     
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    You Sir are ignorant and I doubt if you ever served a single day honorably in the Navy. You do not show the demeanor nor intellect of any of the honorable men and women officers I know.

    You are more likely just another wannabe, PX warrior, wearing used store-bought medals upside-down for parades and other occasions.

    Sad.
     
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    If you claim to be a Christian, you shouldn't tell lies. Meanwhile, the international school Obama attended in Indonesia was founded by the Dutch for their expat children.. It was NEVER a Muslim school.
     
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    No legal body has ever agreed with you and appuzzo's made up definition.

    There are only 2 types of citizen in U.S. law. Natural born or naturalized. That's it. There is no mysterious 3rd type.
     
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    so...when you are thoroughly trounced with basic grammar, you retreat to a post that is NOTHING but insults.

    wow.

    You're wrong about the colon... you're wrong about Elg.... you truncate the Waite quote to avoid the truth.... you should quit before you get further behind.
     
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    Thanks for the explain..

    I do feel like there's a political pocket of mystery about the man, even after all theseyears, I guess.

    Think He'll pull a Clinton?

    "...In fact, I did have inappropriate relations with the Birth Certificate"
     
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    And you were a burger flipper. You do know that the school Obama attended in Indonesia was Dutch for their expat children... It was NEVER Muslim.... the other school he attended was CATHOLIC..
     
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    Its world net daily.. What do you expect?

    In 1998 they announced that the world's largest oil reserves had been discovered in Israel.. and THEY sold stock bilking thousands of people out of their savings.
     
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    Yeah Right.
     
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    Oh it was a fabulous scam.. Hayseed Stephens never sank a single well.. WND was hyping it.. and the owner/editors first cousin was selling stock to born again Christians and widow ladies.
     
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