Boko Haram Strikes Again, Bodies Rotting in Streets

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  1. ArmySoldier

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    No, those attacks were only motivated by religion.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_and_war

    Check this out, it's a LOT of info on the evolution of islamic terrorism. It gives us a play-by-play of how we got terrorism to date.
     
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    You mean likes Haganah - Irgun + other Zionists extremists .

    Sit back and take a good look at yersel.

    Oh ! re Fascist see "Einstein Letter Warning Of Zionist Facism In Israel
    Letter That Albert Einstein Sent to the New York Times
    1948, Protesting the Visit of Menachem Begin (one of Israel's founding fathers)

    "Among the most disturbing political phenomena of our times is the emergence in the newly created state of Israel of the "Freedom Party" (Tnuat Haherut), a political party closely akin in its organization, methods, political philosophy and social appeal to the Nazi and Fascist parties

    . It was formed out of the membership and following of the former Irgun Zvai Leumi, a terrorist, right-wing, chauvinist organization in Palestine. The current visit of Menachem Begin, leader of this party, to the United States is obviously calculated to give the impression of American support for his party in the coming Israeli elections, and to cement political ties with conservative Zionist elements in the United States. Several Americans of national repute have lent their names to welcome his visit. It is inconceivable that those who oppose fascism throughoutthe world, if correctly informed as to Mr. Begin's political record and perspectives, could add their names and support to the movement he represents. Before irreparable damage is done by way of financial contributions, public manifestations in Begin's behalf, and the creation in Palestine of the impression that a large segment of America supports Fascist elements in Israel, the American public must be informed as to the record and objectives of Mr. Begin and his movement. The public avowals of Begin's party are no guide whatever to its actual character. Today they speak of freedom, democracy and anti-imperialism, whereas until recently they openly preached the doctrine of the Fascist state. It is in its actions that the terrorist party betrays its real character; from its past actions we can judge what it may be expected to do in the future. Attack on Arab Village A shocking example was their behavior in the Arab village of Deir Yassin. This village, off the main roads and surrounded by Jewish lands, had taken no part in the war, and had even fought off Arab bands who wanted to use the village as their base. On April 9 (THE NEW YORK TIMES), terrorist bands attacked this peaceful village, which was not a military objective in the fighting, killed most of its inhabitants ? 240men, women, and children - and kept a few of them alive to parade as captives through the streets of Jerusalem. Most of the Jewish community was horrified at the deed, and the Jewish Agency sent a telegram of apology to King Abdullah of Trans-Jordan. But the terrorists, far from being ashamed of their act, were proud of this massacre, publicized it widely, and invited all the foreign correspondents present in the country to view the heaped corpses and the general havoc at Deir Yassin. The Deir Yassin incident exemplifies the character and actions of the Freedom Party. Within the Jewish community they have preached an admixture of ultranationalism, religious mysticism, and racial superiority. Like other Fascist parties they have been used to break strikes, and have themselves pressed for the destruction of free trade unions. In their stead they have proposed corporate unions on the Italian Fascist model. During the last years of sporadic anti-British violence, the IZL and Stern groups inaugurated a reign of terror in the Palestine Jewish community. Teachers were beaten up for speaking against them, adults were shot for not letting their children join them. By gangster methods, beatings, window-smashing, and wide-spread robberies, the terrorists intimidated the population and exacted a heavy tribute. The people of the Freedom Party have had no part in the constructive achievements in Palestine. They have reclaimed no land, built no settlements, and only detracted from the Jewish defense activity.

    Their much-publicized immigration endeavors were minute, and devoted mainly to bringing in Fascist compatriots. Discrepancies Seen The discrepancies between the bold claims now being made by Begin and his party, and their record of past performance in Palestine bear the imprint of no ordinary political party. This is the unmistakable stamp of a Fascist party for whom terrorism (against Jews, Arabs, and British alike), and misrepresentation are means, and a "Leader State" is the goal.

    In the light of the foregoing considerations, it is imperative that the truth about Mr. Begin and his movement be made known in this country. It is all the more tragic that the top leadership of American Zionism has refused to campaign against Begin's efforts, or even to expose to its own constituents the dangers to Israel from support to Begin. The undersigned therefore take this means of publicly presenting a few salient facts concerning Begin and his party; and of urging all concerned not to support this latest manifestation of fascism.

    ISIDORE ABRAMOWITZ HANNAH ARENDT ABRAHAM BRICK RABBI JESSURUN CARDOZO ALBERT EINSTEIN HERMAN EISEN, M.D. HAYIM FINEMAN M. GALLEN, M.D. H.H. HARRIS ZELIG S. HARRIS SIDNEY HOOK FRED KARUSH BRURIA KAUFMAN IRMA L. LINDHEIM NACHMAN MAISEL SEYMOUR MELMAN MYER D. MENDELSON M.D., HARRY M. OSLINSKY SAMUEL PITLICK FRITZ ROHRLICH LOUIS P. ROCKER RUTH SAGIS ITZHAK SANKOWSKY I.J. SHOENBERG SAMUEL SHUMAN M. SINGER IRMA WOLFE STEFAN WOLF. New York, Dec. 2, 1948=====


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    Do you always believe EVERYTHING you read in Wiki ? > Sometimes little minds can only cope with little information :
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    Here's another imo more accurate scholarly explanation : : "The arabic word for war is: "al-harb". In a religious sense, as described by the Quran and teachings of the Prophet Muhammad (s), "jihad" has many meanings. It can refer to internal as well as external efforts to be a good Muslims or believer, as well as working to inform people about the faith of Islam

    .



    " If you open a modern Oxford English dictionary, you would probably

    find the definition of Jihad as “a holy war undertaken by Muslims against

    non-believers”. (perhaps Crusaders ?) This is a very poor definition. Before trying to define what

    Jihad is, we should first define What Jihad IS NOT!


    Jihad is NOT Holy War

    Jihad is NOT blowing up one’s self (Suicide is a sin in Islam)

    Hadith : Shahi Bukhari.
    Book 23. Funerals (Al-Janaa'iz).

    Volumn 002, Book 023, Hadith Number 445.
    -----------------------------------------
    Narated By Thabit bin Ad-Dahhak : The Prophet (p.b.u.h) said, "Whoever intentionally swears falsely by a religion other than Islam, then he is what he has said, (e.g. if he says, 'If such thing is not true then I am a Jew,' he is really a Jew).

    And whoever commits suicide with piece of iron will be punished with the same piece of iron in the Hell Fire." Narrated Jundab the Prophet said, "A man was inflicted with wounds and he committed suicide, and so Allah said: My slave has caused death on himself hurriedly, so I forbid Paradise for him."

    Jihad is NOT killing innocent people

    Jihad is NOT flying a plane into a building packed with civilians

    Jihad is NOT fighting out of anger and hatred

    Jihad is NOT killing others just because they don’t agree with you

    Jihad is NOT killing others just because they are not Muslims



    The real meaning of Jihad

    Jihad is an Arabic word from the root Jee Ha Da. It literally means to

    struggle or strive. Jihad is struggling or striving in the way or sake of
    Allah.

    Jihad takes a very important status in the doctrine of Islam and is one of the basic duties for every Muslim.

    Though, it has nothing whatsoever to do with the term Holy War. Such
    a term, or its equivalent doesn’t exist in the Islamic doctrine.

    The Christian Crusaders in the mid-ages invented this ideology of Holy War.

    There is nothing “Holy” about wars. Wars only involve killings and disasters!

    Jihad has many forms,

    •Jihad of the heart/soul (jihad bin nafs/qalb)


    •Jihad by the tongue (jihad bil lisan)


    •Jihad by the pen/knowledge (jihad bil qalam/ilm)


    •Jihad by the hand (jihad bil yad)


    •Jihad by the sword (jihad bis saif)


    Jihad of the Heart/Soul

    Jihad of the heart/soul; in Arabic: jihad bin nafs/qalb. It is referred as“the greater Jihad” (al-jihad al-akbar).

    It is one’s inner struggle of good against evil; refraining oneself from the
    whispers of Shaitan (Satan).

    This process involves allowing Islam to transform one’s soul to achieving internal peace; and forgoing the hatred and anger.

    “Jihad is ordained for you (Muslims) though you dislike it, and it may be that you dislike a thing which is good for you and that you like a thing which is bad for you. Allah knows but you do not know.”

    {Quran, Surah 2: Al-Baqarah, Verse 216; Mohsin Translation}

    Jihad by the tongue

    Jihad by the tongue; in Arabic: jihad bil lisan.

    It is defending Islam and spreading Islam by scholarly lectures, speeches

    and debates. It often overlaps with Da’awah (invitation to Islam, or

    spreading the message of Islam).

    In The Last Sermon, Prophet Mohammed (peace be upon him) asked the

    listeners whether he has passed on the message to them; and they confirmed affirmatively.

    Then the Messenger of Allah ordered all those present today to pass on the same message to those who are not here today; and the last person to hear the message should understand it better than the people here.

    Jihad by the pen/knowledge

    Jihad by the pen/knowledge; in Arabic: jihad bil qalam/ilm.

    This form of Jihad involves scholarly research of Islam in aiding the

    spread and defence of Islam; and publishing written articles in clearing misconceptions and correction lies against Islam.

    Examples of such Jihad include the research and discovery of scientific evidences, literature miracles and mathematical miracles from the Quran.

    Messenger of Allah once stated that the ink of a scholar is holier than the blood of a martyr; and one who is reading looks handsome in front of

    Allah.

    Jihad by the hand

    Jihad by the hand; in Arabic: jihad bil yad.

    This is a Jihad of action rather than words. At certain areas, it overlaps

    with Zakart (charity) and Hajj (pilgrimage).

    Some of its examples include giving charity to the poor and needy,

    performing Hajj or Ummrah, helping those who need help, saving

    people’s lives, etc. These are more of physical deeds instead of words.

    “A person whose feet become dust ridden because of [striving] in

    the way of Allah will never be touched by the flames of Hell”

    { Sahih Bukhari 2811}

    The most beautiful of all Jihad is a perfect Hajj. It involves testing of

    one’s patience and piety to the apex. The whole period of Hajj, with just

    one intention and aim, worshiping Allah!

    Jihad by the sword

    Jihad by the sword; in Arabic: jihad bis saif. In contrary to Jihad of the

    heart/soul; this form of Jihad is referred as “the lesser jihad” (al-jihad alasghar).

    Sometimes it is necessary to undertake Jihad by the sword. This would include usage of arsenals and engaging in a combat. This could be simply a bunch of freedom fighters or an organised campaign of army.

    Jihad by the sword is use of arms to engage into a combat. It is not misuse of arms to create violence.

    There are only two situations were Jihad by the sword is allowed to be undertaken.

    1) For self-defence. When someone attacks you or when your nation has been attacked. Engaging into combat due to self defence.

    2) Fighting against evil and unjust. It is also a sin if a Muslim sees unjust been done, capable of stopping it, yet not doing anything about it. This can include war on drug, war on child labour as well as war on terror!

    The American administration today seems to be launching a global war on terror, but are they the first to launch the war on terror?

    The Muslims already announced the war on terror fourteen centuries ago, under the name of Jihad bis saif!

    There are many rules and limitations when engaging in combat under the title of Jihad. For example, civilians are not to be harmed; trees are not to be cut down; asylum should be granted to surrendering enemy soldiers;

    etc.

    “And if anyone of the Mushrikun seeks your protection then grant him protection, so that he may hear the Word of Allah, and then escort him to where he can be secure, that is because they are men who know not.”

    {Quran, Surah 9: At-Taubah, Verse 6; Mohsin Translation}

    The above verse states that when an enemy soldier surrenders during a battle, the Muslim soldiers must grant asylum and in addition, escort him to safety!

    The treatment for prisoners of war is also clearly stated in the Quran. Prisoners of war under Muslim prisons are to eat, drink and dress the same Muslim soldiers eat, drink and dress.

    And even under the unfortunate event of shortage of food, it is the prisoners who are to eat first before the Muslim soldiers guarding them!

    A closer look at the Sword

    Despite the fact that Jihad by the sword is the lesser Jihad, it is the only form of Jihad that most of the people in the world perceive Jihad as.



    This is unfortunate, especially for the Muslims. Many so-called “teachers of Islam” have been misusing this to assemble their so-called “holy
    army” to fight their so-called “holy war”.

    But you can’t blame the religion for what a few of its people do. In every society, there is a black sheep.

    Self-Defence:

    Since Jihad by the sword has been overwhelmingly magnified in the wrong angle, let’s take a closer look at it in the right angle. What is wrong with Jihad by the sword if it is fighting for self-defence?

    In the early years of revelation of Islam in Mecca, Muslims were not granted permission from Allah to fight. So the Muslims suffered both moral and physical humiliations from the non-Muslims in Mecca.

    The first verses regarding Jihad were then revealed allowing Muslims to undertake self-defence.

    “And fight in the Way of Allah those who fight you, but transgress not the limits. Truly, Allah likes not the transgressors.

    {Quran, Surah 2: Al-Baqarah, Verse 190; Mohsin Translation}

    Many of the Quranic verses are being quoted out of context to wrongly justify terrorist actions. Yet, most of those verses are only referring to a particular situation; such as Battle of Badr or Battle of
    Uhud.

    Intention and war against Satan:

    “Those who believe, fight in the Cause of Allah, and those who disbelieve, fight in the cause of Satan. So fight against the friends of Satan. Ever feeble indeed is the plot of Satan.”

    {Quran, Surah 4: An-Nisa, Verse 76; Mohsin Translation}

    Now the second question is, what is wrong in fighting against evil and liberating people from sufferings?

    ==

    source :

    http://www.justislam.co.uk/product.php?products_id=2

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    Nonsense. First 26 of 52 uses of the term Jihad in the Bukharri Hadiths. You aren't "killed in the battle as a martyr" from a "struggle". "Horses" and "armor" arent needed for "efforts to be a good muslim" and those efforts don't produce "booty" for the victors. Jihad for able bodied men means war.

    Volume 1, Book 2, Number 25:
    Allah's Apostle was asked, "What is the best deed?" He replied, "To believe in Allah and His Apostle (Muhammad). The questioner then asked, "What is the next (in goodness)? He replied, "To participate in Jihad (religious fighting) in Allah's Cause."

    Volume 1, Book 2, Number 25:
    The Prophet said, "The person who participates in (Holy battles) in Allah's cause and nothing compels him to do so except belief in Allah and His Apostles, will be recompensed by Allah either with a reward, or booty (if he survives) or will be admitted to Paradise (if he is killed in the battle as a martyr). Had I not found it difficult for my followers, then I would not remain behind any sariya going for Jihad and I would have loved to be martyred in Allah's cause and then made alive, and then martyred and then made alive, and then again martyred in His cause."

    Volume 1, Book 10, Number 505:
    I asked the Prophet "Which deed is the dearest to Allah?" He replied, "To offer the prayers at their early stated fixed times." I asked, "What is the next (in goodness)?" He replied, "To be good and dutiful to your parents" I again asked, "What is the next (in goodness)?" He replied, 'To participate in Jihad (religious fighting) in Allah's cause."

    Volume 2, Book 15, Number 86:
    The Prophet said, "No good deeds done on other days are superior to those done on these (first ten days of Dhul Hijja)." Then some companions of the Prophet said, "Not even Jihad?" He replied, "Not even Jihad, except that of a man who does it by putting himself and his property in danger (for Allah's sake) and does not return with any of those things."

    Volume 2, Book 24, Number 547:
    Allah's Apostle (p.b.u.h) ordered (a person) to collect Zakat, and that person returned and told him that Ibn Jamil, Khalid bin Al-Walid, and Abbas bin 'Abdul Muttalib had refused to give Zakat." The Prophet said, "What made Ibn Jamll refuse to give Zakat though he was a poor man, and was made wealthy by Allah and His Apostle ? But you are unfair in asking Zakat from Khalid as he is keeping his armor for Allah's Cause (for Jihad).

    Volume 2, Book 26, Number 594:
    The Prophet was asked, "Which is the best deed?" He said, "To believe in Allah and His Apostle." He was then asked, "Which is the next (in goodness)?" He said, "To participate in Jihad in Allah's Cause."

    Volume 3, Book 29, Number 84:
    I said, "O Allah's Apostle! Shouldn't we participate in Holy battles and Jihad along with you?" He replied, "The best and the most superior Jihad (for women) is Hajj which is accepted by Allah.

    Volume 3, Book 31, Number 121:
    ...So, whoever was amongst the people who used to offer their prayers, will be called from the gate of the prayer; and whoever was amongst the people who used to participate in Jihad, will be called from the gate of Jihad;

    Volume 3, Book 46, Number 724:
    Allah's Apostle said, "A pious slave gets a double reward." Abu Huraira added: By Him in Whose Hands my soul is but for Jihad (i.e. holy battles),

    Volume 4, Book 51, Number 33:
    When 'Umar got a piece of land in Khaibar, he came to the Prophet saying, "I have got a piece of land, better than which I have never got. So what do you advise me regarding it?" The Prophet said, "If you wish you can keep it as an endowment to be used for charitable purposes." So, 'Umar gave the land in charity (i.e. as an endowments on the condition that the land would neither be sold nor given as a present, nor bequeathed, (and its yield) would be used for the poor, the kinsmen, the emancipation of slaves, Jihad, and for guests and travelers; and its administrator could eat in a reasonable just manner, and he also could feed his friends without intending to be wealthy by its means."

    Volume 4, Book 52, Number 41:
    I asked Allah's Apostle, "O Allah's Apostle! What is the best deed?" He replied, "To offer the prayers at their early stated fixed times." I asked, "What is next in goodness?" He replied, "To be good and dutiful to your parents." I further asked, what is next in goodness?" He replied, "To participate in Jihad in Allah's Cause." I did not ask Allah's Apostle anymore and if I had asked him more, he would have told me more.

    Volume 4, Book 52, Number 42:
    Allah's Apostle said, "There is no Hijra (i.e. migration) (from Mecca to Medina) after the Conquest (of Mecca), but Jihad and good intention remain; and if you are called (by the Muslim ruler) for fighting, go forth immediately.

    Volume 4, Book 52, Number 43:
    (That she said), "O Allah's Apostle! We consider Jihad as the best deed. Should we not fight in Allah's Cause?" He said, "The best Jihad (for women) is Hajj-Mabrur (i.e. Hajj which is done according to the Prophet's tradition and is accepted by Allah)."

    Volume 4, Book 52, Number 44:
    A man came to Allah's Apostle and said, "Instruct me as to such a deed as equals Jihad (in reward)." He replied, "I do not find such a deed." Then he added, "Can you, while the Muslim fighter is in the battle-field, enter your mosque to perform prayers without cease and fast and never break your fast?" The man said, "But who can do that?" Abu- Huraira added, "The Mujahid (i.e. Muslim fighter) is rewarded even for the footsteps of his horse while it wanders bout (for grazing) tied in a long rope."

    Volume 4, Book 52, Number 56:
    ,,,Later on it happened that she went out in the company of her husband 'Ubada bin As-Samit who went for Jihad and it was the first time the Muslims undertook a naval expedition led by Mu awiya.

    Volume 4, Book 52, Number 79:
    On the day of the Conquest (of Mecca) the Prophet said, "There is no emigration after the Conquest but Jihad and intentions. When you are called (by the Muslim ruler) for fighting, go forth immediately." (See Hadith No. 42)

    Volume 4, Book 52, Number 81:
    In the life-time of the Prophet, Abu Talha did not fast because of the Jihad, but after the Prophet died I never saw him without fasting except on 'Id-ul-Fitr and 'Id-ul-Aclha.

    Volume 4, Book 52, Number 85:
    ....He told us that Zaid bin Thabit had told him that Allah's Apostle had dictated to him the Divine Verse:
    "Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and those who strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with their wealth and lives.' (4.95)
    Zaid said, "Ibn-Maktum came to the Prophet while he was dictating to me that very Verse. On that Ibn Um Maktum said, "O Allah's Apostle! If I had power, I would surely take part in Jihad."

    Volume 4, Book 52, Number 87:
    Allah's Apostle went towards the Khandaq (i.e. Trench) and saw the Emigrants and the Ansar digging in a very cold morning as they did not have slaves to do that for them. When he noticed their fatigue and hunger he said, "O Allah! The real life is that of the Here-after, (so please) forgive the Ansar and the Emigrants." In its reply the Emigrants and the Ansar said, "We are those who have given a pledge of allegiance to Muhammad that we will carry on Jihad as long as we live."

    Volume 4, Book 52, Number 88:
    The Emigrants and the Ansar started digging the trench around Medina carrying the earth on their backs and saying, "We are those who have given a pledge of allegiance to Muhammad that we will I carry on Jihad as long as we live."

    Volume 4, Book 52, Number 104:
    The Prophet said, "Good will remain (as a permanent quality) in the foreheads of horses (for Jihad) till the Day of Resurrection, for they bring about either a reward (in the Hereafter) or booty (in this world."

    Volume 4, Book 52, Number 112:
    The one for whom they are a source of reward, is he who keeps a horse for Allah's Cause (i.e. Jihad)
     
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    People are starting to understand just how brutal Islam is, the "religion of peace" nonsense is wearing off, so people are just USED to it now, and UNDERSTAND why the carnage is taking place (they want Sharia Law, and Mohammad said to kill to get it), so they are not shocked anymore.
    "A squirrel in my backyard gathered a nut", doesn't garner any attention, just like a headline "Muslims slaughter 2000" doesn't garner any attention anymore. We EXPECT that of Muslims, since we can now so easily read the Qur'an for ourselves. No shock anymore. We EXPECT them to follow Mohammad's lead, who said "I have been made victorious through terror".

    What's going to be more shocking in the future is the Muslims who DON'T follow Mohammad's example of fighting Jihad for Allah....now THAT will be shocking.

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    Dixon nails it!
     
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    So let me ask you this: is the belief that Mohammad actually flew on a magic flying horse that had wings "facts" - and does it involve "critical thinking"?
     
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    Only COWARDS kill cartoonists. Insecure ones, as well. Insecure cowards. Not "lions of Islam", but "scared little kittens of Islam".
     
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    Muslims seem to always lose wars....."Allah" obviously isn't real, then.
     
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    Those DEFINITIONS are fine and dandy. Just like it's fine and dandy to believe the Koran to be the holy book.

    However, it's the way the terrorists misinterpret the koran to allow for these acts.
     
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    It is their LITERAL interpretation of the Koran that causes troubles.

    [3.151] We will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve, because they set up with Allah that for which He has sent down no authority, and their abode is the fire, and evil is the abode of the unjust.

    [2.191] And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers.(*)

    [2.193] And fight with them until there is no persecution, and religion should be only for Allah...(*)

    2.216] Fighting is enjoined on you, and h is an object of dislike to you; and it may be that you dislike a thing while it is good for you, and it may be that you love a thing while it is evil for you, and Allah knows, while you do not know.

    [2.246] ...May it not be that you would not fight if fighting is ordained for you? They said: And what reason have we that we should not fight in the way of Allah, and we have indeed been compelled to abandon our homes and our children. But when fighting was ordained for them, they turned back, except a few of them, and Allah knows the unjust.

    [3.169] And reckon not those who are killed in Allah's way as dead; nay, they are alive (and) are provided sustenance from their Lord;

    [4.74] Therefore let those fight in the way of Allah, who sell this world's life for the hereafter; and whoever fights in the way of Allah, then be he slain or be he victorious, We shall grant him a mighty reward.

    [4.76] Those who believe fight in the way of Allah, and those who disbelieve fight in the way of the Shaitan. Fight therefore against the friends of the Shaitan; surely the strategy of the Shaitan is weak.

    [9.5] So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

    [9.29] Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.

    [9.111] Surely Allah has bought of the believers their persons and their property for this, that they shall have the garden; they fight in Allah's way, so they slay and are slain;(*)

    [9.123] O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil).

    [47.4] So when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them
     
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    True. Good point.
     
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    Deir Yassin was a blood bath.. They even killed the livestock.. I think they must have been in a frenzy of some sort.
     
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    I don't see why this matters.
    The sacking of those villages has literally zero impact on the rest of the world, or even the rest of the continent.
    It only serves to distract people from what really matters: celebrity gossip.
     
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    Obama believes foreign intervention is unnecessary and nothing can change his mind I guess.
     
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    Your source please --- as there exist several dubious interpretations/translations.

    One of the most manipulated concepts in Islam today is the concept of jihad.

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    Your source please ; ?


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    Cases of corrupting Quranic truth

    (Misinterpreted verses)



    Various Quranic verses have been badly misinterpreted. In the majority of cases, these mis-interpretations were a result of attempts to uphold the teachings of the Hadith (Hadith are the alleged sayings of the prophet Muhammad). When a clear contradiction arose between a Quranic script and a particular Hadith, sadly the interpreters have chosen to corrupt the meaning of the Quranic verse so as to comply with the content of the Hadith!



    As we have numerous clear cases where the Quran is contradicted by Hadith, we must wonder if it is possible that the prophet of God preached what is in contradiction to the word of God?

    The answer is that he did not! The genuine believer in the Quran, and in the integrity of the prophet, will arrive at the conclusion that if there is any contradiction between Hadith and Quran it is because the Hadith in question is fabricated and cannot be the true words of the prophet.

    Sadly many interpreters preferred to corrupt the meaning of the Quranic verses in question in order to uphold their cherished Hadith at any cost!

    For more information on the history of the collection and documentation of Hadith please go to: The History of hadith

    The following are some of these many deliberate manipulations:

    (To read the full details of any misinterpretation, please click on the relevant link)

    1- The Duration of Hajj 2:197

    As per 2:197, God decreed that Hajj may be observed anytime during the four sacred months. This has been corrupted and limited to the first 10 days of the Arabic month of Zhu Al-Hijjah.

    2- The manipulation of 24:31

    Do the words in 24:31 make it obligatory for women to cover their hair?

    3- The word "Hikmah" 2:151

    As in 2:151, the word 'Hikmah' means wisdom. The corrupt scholars know that very well but in order to establish a reference in the Quran for the Hadith and Sunna of prophet Muhammad, when there is none, they claim that the word 'Hikmah' refers to the Hadith of Muhammad.

    4- The Crucial Test of 39:45

    In this glorious verse God sets a decisive criteria for the purity anyone's religion, but sadly the scholars and interpreters have completely demolished the truth of this verse.

    5- The word "shaheed" does NOT mean martyr 16:89

    The correct meaning of the word 'Shaheed' as used by God in the Quran.


    scholarly source here :

    http://www.quran-islam.org/main_topics/misinterpreted_verses_(P1224).html


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    Here s a quickie for lovers of wiki :

    Jihad (English pronunciation: /dʒɪˈhɑːd/; Arabic: جهاد‎ ǧihād [dʒiˈhæːd]), is an Islamic term referring to a religious duty of Muslims.

    In Arabic, the word jihād is a noun meaning "struggle" or "resisting". A person engaged in jihad is called a mujahid, the plural of which is mujahideen. The word jihad appears frequently in the Quran,[1][2] often in the idiomatic expression "striving in the way of God (al-jihad fi sabil Allah)".[3][4][5]

    Muslims and scholars do not all agree on its definition.

    Within the context of the classical Islamic law, it refers to struggle against those who do not believe in the Islamic God (Allah) and do not acknowledge the submission to Muslims,[6] and so is often translated as "Holy War",[7][8][9] although this term is controversial.[10]

    According to the Dictionary of Islam[3] and Islamic historian Bernard Lewis, in the large majority of cases jihad has a military meaning.[11]

    Javed Ghamidi states that there is consensus amongst Islamic scholars that the concept of jihad will always include armed struggle against wrong doers.[12]

    It was generally supposed that the order for a general war could only be given by the Caliph (an office that was claimed by the Ottoman sultans), but Muslims who did not acknowledge the spiritual authority of the Caliphate (which has been vacant since 1923)—such as non-Sunnis and non-Ottoman Muslim states—always looked to their own rulers for the proclamation of a jihad.

    There has been in fact no universal warfare by Muslims on non-believers since the early caliphate. Some proclaimed Jihad by claiming themselves as mahdi, e.g. the Sudanese Mahommed Ahmad in 1882.[13]

    Others have given the word wider definitions. Many observers—both Muslim[14] and non-Muslim[15]—talk of jihad having two meanings: an inner spiritual struggle—the "greater jihad"; and an outer physical struggle against the enemies of Islam—the "lesser jihad"[3][16]—which may take a violent or non-violent form.[17]


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    IMO - Its all just a matter of belief - its whatever some people are prepared to believe .


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    sad but true

    yes, Nigeria is a slaughter house but as is their neighbor, the Central African Republic

    The Christians have seen that the Muslims are allowed to continue the slaughter so they themselves have taken up arms against Muslims.

    The media tries to downplay it as not being a religious war but what do you call it when Muslims target Christians and then Christians fight back against Muslims?
     
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    Sahih Bukhari, like I said. M. Muhsin Khan translation. And the only manipulation is from those trying to argue that jihad is an internal struggle and not warfare.
     
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    The Koran, like I said. M.H. Shakir translation.
     
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    So I take it - you've failed to read my posts #66 + 67 properly and still refuse to provide a link to your source . .


    Muslims like Jews + Christians - all are not in total agreement and Sunnis say Dr. Mohsin Khan's incorrect translation of Bukhari Ahadith . Most Sunnis - do not agree with the translation of Mohsin a Salafi .
     
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    Media coverage (or more accurately virtual non-coverage) of the latest Boko-Haram atrocities were overshadowed by the infotainment media circus that surrounded the criminal acts in Paris. On the day of the Charlie Hebdo killings, hundreds of innocent men, women and children were either burnt or hacked to death in Nigeria. I had to search through pages and pages of the Paris coverage before I reached a single paragraph of the Boko-Haram atrocity.

    You see, as far as the Western mainstream media is concerned, there are two kinds of victims - worthy victims and unworthy victims. 'White' victims close to home in places where we might spend time on vacations conform to the former, whilst 'black' victims in far away remote places, conform to the latter. But 'race' is the core motivating factor. That's why we had wall to wall coverage of the recent criminal activities in Australia and saturation coverage of Charlie Hebdo but almost nothing of the events in Nigeria.
     
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    It is a shame there isnt more coverage, but, slaughters in the thousands has come to be to be expected in the lands of Islam. Its a bit more of a shock when it comes to our lands.
     
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    Muslims like Jews + Christians - they are not in total agreement . Sunnis say Dr. Mohsin Khan's incorrect translation of Bukhari Ahadith . Most Sunnis - do not agree with the translation of Mohsin - a Salafi .




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    Unlike a deeply entrenched person , an open minded person would read and learn

    Difference Between Sunni and Salafi


    http://www.differencebetween.net/mi...llaneous/difference-between-sunni-and-salafi/

    the Difference Between the Qur’an and Hadith.

    http://www.onislam.net/english/shariah/hadith/faqs/446701.html

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    Then theres " Differences between Islam and Jihad_
    "
    Read please :

    http://www.differencebetween.net/mi...llaneous/differences-between-islam-and-jihad/


    alternatively go here

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/3111...3=1&ff11=ICEP3.0.0-L&ff12=67&ff13=80&ff14=108


    I repeat Once again - Abrahamic beliefs systems - like others , are BELIEFS - its however/whatever believers - interpret / believe it to be .

    Boko Haram are certainly another bunch of psychopathic nihilists.


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