"You can’t make fun of faith"...did Pope just declare war on free speech!?

Oh HELL yeah!

 

If it is sacred to you, then don't insult it. Plain and simple. Your faith is not sacred to me, therefore why should "I" be bound by what you think is sacred?

Now, there is being a dick. However, thankfully, being a dick in the U.S. is not illegal.

 

Excellent point!
But it can be argued that, MENTALLY, mocking religion is the mentally strong mocking the mentally weak.

 

Concepts become action. Concepts, alone, most people don't have a problem with. It's when those concepts turn to actions that people usually become concerned.

I don't have a problem with the neighbor down the street that thinks interracial marriage should be illegal. What I have a problem with is if he uses those actions to illegally discriminate against an interracial couple.

 

Evil acts....such as Jesus approving of all (except those on the supposed "Ark") the dead animals that were "collateral damage" in god's war on humanity in "the flood". The flood was evil, and approving of it is evil as well, so Jesus was evil. I care for animals too much to approve of killing virtually all innocent animals.

 

Noooooooooooooo! Talking donkeys and a magic flying horse with wings are REAL I tell you!!!!!!! REAL!!!!!!! Jesus will ENJOY torturing you, you, you atheist!!!!!



(I like to pretend I'm religious every once in awhile just to see how insane I become....kinda scary, actually. Ok, back to reality now.)

 

Excellent.
What you wrote could also be stated "Your delusion of a magic invisible zombie in the sky who can magically hear our thoughts is not sacred to me....."
Faith is not sacred because delusions are not sacred.

 

Like many psychiatric disorders, pedophilia is believed to have occurred in humans throughout history, but was not formally named, defined or studied until the late 19th century. The term paedophilia erotica was coined in 1886 by the Viennese psychiatrist Richard von Krafft-Ebing in his writing Psychopathia Sexualis.[27] The term appears in a section titled "Violation of Individuals Under the Age of Fourteen", which focuses on the forensic psychiatry aspect of child sexual offenders in general. Krafft-Ebing describes several typologies of offender, dividing them into psychopathological and non-psychopathological origins, and hypothesizes several apparent causal factors that may lead to the sexual abuse of children.[27]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia

The term didn't exist before 19th century. So there was no such worries about it before then.
Even in USA in the 19th century. Many girls were married raising a family by 16. If they made it out of school and still not married, they were thought of as old maids.

So this magical age thing you worry about is just that. And you worry yourself over fairy tale stories?

 

Some fairy tales are harmless, but some, like religion, which has lead to more wars than any other source, are incredibly dangerous. For example, we are in the longest war in US history, with no end in sight (ISIS is gaining territory, as an example), and a stronghold area of the enemy (Pakistan) has dozens of nukes that are not too well protected.

 

People also used to believe that enslaving people, such as blacks, was not a problem either. MSH has moved beyond those beliefs, but religions that haven't removed slavery from their texts, or still believe a pedo is the best man of all time, have not moved beyond those beliefs.

 

Flew over your head. Oh well. You are MSH.

 

Gee, you must have read my signature line. Concepts however don't always become action. I am certain that you must be a human and therefore I can further safely assume that you have conceived of some things that you would like to do, but did not take positive action toward manifesting those concepts; perhaps due to legal restraints.

That neighbors concepts are not actions: actions are physical manifestations that attempt to manifest the fullness of those concepts.

 

You're free to say whatever you like, just don't be surprised at the reaction. So if you're the Pope and you're goal is peace through dialog, you'll never reach that if you start off by mocking something people care deeply about.

 

Correct, which is why I said I don't have a problem with concepts on their own.

If he acts on his concept that interracial couples should not be married by illegal discriminating against them (an action), then that is wrong.

His belief (concept) is not an action. However, if he does act on it, then his concept has just become action.

I have no problem in what someone believes in. Now, that doesn't mean they are free from criticism of that belief. However, the concept is not the action.

 

I find that funny because the Pope's of the past have had NO problem insulting homosexuals by calling their actions sins. So what it REALLY comes down to for folks like the Pope and other people is "don't insult people, unless it goes with your faith then it's ok".

See it's ok for those radicals to call us "infidels, sinners, scourge of the Earth, etc." for not believing in their God, but it's not ok to mock their faith? Gimme a break. This is why I really hate organized religion typically. The mindset of "We are right so everything we do is right and you cannot insult us, but we can insult you", is idiotic and is a classical display of arrogance.

 

As a Protestant, I could care less what the pope has to say. All I ask of the unbelievers is that they understand the man doesn't speak for all Christians, just Catholics.

 

The current Pope has no control over the actions of his predecessors.

The Pope said "you can't insult the faith of others", which doesn't apply exclusively to Islam or any other faith. There's no hypocrisy here, if you mock something (anything) that someone holds dear your unlikely to have any constructive dialog.

 

But the Pope has no problem still insulting gay people because that is according to his religion. Well it's not my religion to insult gay people, so should the Pope respect "my faith" and not say homosexuality is a sin?

 

Good, then we understand one another.

 

What do you think abt tsunamis - earthquakes - + other natural disasters ?

" De tings dat you liable ta read in de bible - it aint nessarily so - Wadooo."

(Gershwin)

.....

 

I've not heard any insulting remarks from this Pope regarding homosexuality, which makes your point moot.

 

The Pope hates gays, or of course he'd have changed his Life Instruction Book (his Bible) many years ago. A hateful Pope he is, clearly.

 

That's because even though his book says to KILL them, he could care less. Only interested in being a super-star - he could care less about gays. Hatefilled, he is. I of course, being a MSH, love gays. The lines are being drawn in this war, and the Pope is on the losing side, history will show.

 

Those supposed "acts of god": yes, their god, if he exists like they say he does, is one sick SOB.

15,000 dead: 2011 Tōhoku earthquake and tsunami
230,000 dead: 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake and tsunami
100,000 dead: 2005 Kashmir earthquake
100,000 – 220,000 dead: 2010 Haiti earthquake
445,000 dead in only these four in the last few years alone.

So if god/Jesus don't exist, then people of course should not worship them...but if they DO EXIST, then these figures show that they are clearly too IMMORAL to worship. Either way, they are not worth worshiping. If I gave Marlow the power of god, I guarantee you that Marlowe is far far more moral than god, and the number of deaths as above would be, basically, zero. (Although causing any small island that Justin Beiber happened to be on at the time to fall into the sea would be forgiven, of course.)

 

Don't think so - I just answered it in the manner I thought best.