What do you folks think about Jim Webb for President

Very creative spin. Wonder if anybody buys it? I sure don't. Far left loonies vote Democrat. Far right loonies vote Republican. The rest of that soliloquy is BS. I mean, your opinion.

Never heard of Jim Webb but I don't see a white guy winning a Dem primary for a long time now. Maybe after we've had a blind midget/deaf NA in the WH... but until then it will be white woman, Hispanic man, black woman, Hispanic woman, etc. Maybe Clinton/Webb? Or my own personal fav dreamteam... Clinton/Obama (Michelle).

Progressives are obsessed with race/gender/sexual preference. If Jim could turn gay, that would help him tremendously. Otherwise, he doesn't have a chance.

 

What's funny is why Dems are'NT running around DESPERATELY looking for candidates. All you've got are two tired old women. Doesn't that bother you a little?

 

Democrats are enacting policies that aren't far off from 1960s and 1970s Republicans. Ike, Nixon and Ford were more liberal than Barack Obama. Barack Obama and Bill Clinton are centrists. Not moderates, but centrists. Moderates are a bit to the left of the two of them.

not really. His politics aren't really focused on working class people. As I said, he's pretty much a golf course Republican, which is more based in the failures of supply side. As far as Hillary Clinton, she'll have an appeal with many working class people, as the Clinton economy saw a stronger, more sustained, economic growth that lifted millions of people out of poverty, while both Bush presidencies saw poverty grow (and Reagan statistically didn't take anyone out of poverty). Bush 43 saw only sluggish growth for middle class people, built on a housing bubble that burst, and caused the biggest recession since the Great Depression.

 

I'm not here to sell anything, so I really couldn't care less what you buy. If you want to see obsession with race, gender, etc., then you only need look into a mirror.

 

By campaigning. I can't predict how well he'd perform, but it's obvious by the responses within this thread that Republicans fear his candidacy. I suspect he'd get a lot of votes from ex-Republicans.

 

He'd be the best Democratic nominee of my lifetime. In election process his liberal qualities would be heightened though and, like Romney, he wouldn't be seen as a centrist. But I know he is, and I'd like him. I'd still vote for Rand Paul over one of Jesus's disciples, but I'd like Webb as President.

But he's quite unlikely to get the nomination. As the progressives have said, "it's time for a woman." He doesn't have the right genitalia for the primary.

 

I could see him easily winning the nomination, especially if Hillary declines to run.

 

Since you just posted this on the What will be Obama's legacy thread...

appears you are indeed here to sell us something. An illusion that Dem's have a clue... past, present & future.

That's what nobody is buying.

 

I don't see him as anyone the GOP should fear. He might be angling for a VP slot, as he's already been Secretary of the Navy.

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I don't. He doesn't bring anything to the table for his own run. As VP, he does.

 

I suspect the real issue is we have differing ideas of what's to the right. What Democratic senator currently in the Senate do you consider to the right? Maybe then I can get a baseline.

I think Webb would be surprised to hear that he's not focused on the working class. If he's a golf course Republican, he has zero constituency in the Democratic party and will go exactly nowhere if he tries to run, just as I've been saying.

 

To be frank, I do think he would take some Republican and and probably a majority of the independent votes in the general election, particularly if the Republican Party nominates another rich establishment guy. Webb could actually run as an outsider against such a guy, even though Webb's party currently has the Presidency.

But... I'm not holding my breath. Let him campaign. We'll see how far he gets.

 

Sharing an honest opinion is not salesmanship.

 

That's all we can really do, isn't it? He doesn't need our permission to campaign.

 

Jon Tester, Joe Manchin, Joe Donnelly. Angus King is still in the caucus, if not a Democrat.

And we just saw Mary Landrieu lose, even though she generally had a conservative record.

Really? What bills did he champion for labor?

Democrats run from liberal to conservative, and end up being centrist, overall. The GOP runs from conservative to right wing fringe.

 

All of those people were pretty safe votes for Obama, although Joe Manchin is probably the most moderate one. Mary Landrieu proves my point. The Democratic moderates are being purged.

I'm not going to list them, but he's been endorsed by labor and has written ans spoken about worker issues.

http://www.the-richmonder.com/2006/05/labor-weighs-in-sheet-metal-workers.html

http://www.jameswebb.com/articles/economic-fairness-social-justice/class-struggle-american-workers-have-a-chance-to-be-heard

Heh, like I said, you define the right very differently.

 

He will be perfect a perfect candisate. There is not one idea or plan in the entire four pages. His ideas will be immune to criticism because there don't appear to be any.

 

Joe Manchin isn't moderate. He's conservative, as were the others I listed. And the Democratic Party didn't purge those conservatives in primaries. The GOP beat them in weird years where, in spite of the growing g economy and the trend of healthcare getting better, the media, owned by conservative companies, looking to keep ad sales up, has beat the drum that the President is somehow to fault for what the GOP has obstructed.

labor went with him because guys like George Allen had a record of being totally against the poor and middle class getting a slice of the pie.

I view it from the lens of the overall population, where you view it from the lens of the Republican Party.

 

The video and accompanying text on the four pages of Mr. Webb's site are intended as an outline. It is pretty hard to get someones attention these days for fourteen minutes, let alone explaining in great detail what needs to be done to fix our country. That will take months of stumping and will occur over the next two years. Surely you have seen peoples' eyes glaze over when you confront them with unfamiliar information. I think Mr. Webb is smart enough to know what needs to be done first in order for his message to reach the masses. His website is an admirable start.

 

No.... your personal view is warped as is typical of leftist partisans. In San Francisco, Berkeley, Madison, or Manhattan, Manchin would be regarded as conservative. Nationally, he would be a moderate. And I think anyone who thinks the Democratic Party has moved right over the past couple of years isn't in a place to judge. In any case, you won't have to worry about it. Webb isn't leaving Virginia for the White House.

 

Not really. I think old women will beat youthful male Nazis any day. Besides, Hillary is the closest thing we could find to a President who ruled while we were still loved in the world, running a budget surplus, had a prosperous economy and were winners in the Cold War.

 

Are you referring to the song writer Jimmy Webb's friend Warren Zevon who died of cancer in 2003?


Jimmy Webb


Warren Zevon

 

Never heard of him.

 

I ama life long democrat - and a reasonably moderate one. I entered the Naval Academy three short weeks after Jim Webb graduated. He was a legend at Annapolis and I have followed his career every step of the way. I have read all his books. I contributed to his Virginia Senate campaign. I will contribute to his presidential campaign. I will vote for him by absentee ballot in the primary and, if we are fortunate enough to have him be our party's nominee, I will vote for him for president as well as contribute to his campaign with the maximum contribution allowed by law, and I will contribute to other PACS that will promote his candidacy as well. I would love nothing more than to see Jim Webb in the White House.

 

I'm to the right of those you mentioned. And, seeing the Democratic Party has moved fro. FDR to Obama, those who deny reality, such as yourself, have opinions based in the far right's bubble.

 

I like the idea. Not too far out there like many other Democrat candidates.