I dont think you are correctly assessing the markets that each demographics present. Advertising to blacks vs whites is very different for many products. Also, the black community promotes black on black business exchanges, where often whites will promote " diversity" even at a higher price. Fair trade coffee is a good example.
brother's fashions.... black barber shops.... good luck frequenting or getting hired in those establishments if you are white. There are also gay only hotels which I'm perfectly fine with..... just don't get upset if there is a caucasion fashion.... or whites only barber shops, or straight only hotels.....
Its because its not taboo for blacks to only serve blacks. You can blame it on white guilt if you wish , or political correctness. The black community basically promotes excluding whites. White culture in America is about not being a racist, or a bigot ...being "accepting" of others.... etc.. Very different demographics and circumstances.
As has been said, the only thing required for the forces of evil to win in this world, is for good people to do nothing. I grant that sometimes turning the other cheek is the best policy, but here we had good people going after a clear evil. And yes, bigotry is evil.
There is a difference between your business turning down a person just because they are "enter race here" , and turning down a request to have your company make remarks on a product that you find incendiary.
I don't see how anyone has the right to tell his neighbor what he may write on a cake or what he may choose not to write on a cake. How do people think that they have a divine right to rule over their fellow man?
It amazes me how progressives claim they're all for freedom, yet they have absolutely ZERO problem with our government forcing individuals to paint their politics on cakes. Cant say that I'm NOT shocked at the progressive irony here.... Someone needs to explain to progressives that freedom doesn't lean one way and wasn't designed to cater to the progressives protected classes.... If progressives really want freedom they will need to learn how to take the bitter with the sweet. >>>MOD EDIT Off Topic Removed<<<
And then of course there's this... [video=youtube;AJaroR_qTNs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJaroR_qTNs[/video]
Personally, I would prefer a decision that a baker can decline to put any message on anything that he doesn't want to. And I'm not shocked at the misrepresentation here. Sorry, but nobody has the freedom to treat minorities as second-class people for no other reason than that they're a minority. Basic human rights belong to everyone. Conservatives can't understand why anyone would want equality, especially, you know, "them".
Funny how it may backfire when you use the violence of the state to force someone, at gunpoint, to bake you a cake.
I will say the same here as I said for the anti-gay baker the baker should not have to do the artwork, but should have to sell the bigoted guy the cake if he has them on display performing a service like paining a picture, decorating a cake, massaging a man's back, ect..... are not the same as selling a product, such laws should only apply to products, not personal services the guy has a nice hateful religion he does though doesn't he.... wonder what the religion was? so this is what it means to be Christians... hate speech is now Christian speech... nice and to think this guy was a public school teacher once "Jack's biography on the website says he is currently an educator who used to teach in public schools" .
I tend to agree. . .except that the MESSAGE is very different! Gay people asking for a cake (let's say, with two grooms on the top) are not discriminating, but are celebrating love across genders. "Religious" extremists who are asking for a cake that clearly indicates discrimination and hatred for others does NOT celebrate love across genders, but instead are celebrating bigotry and hatred. So. . .it is all about the dichotomy between "exclusion" and "inclusion," respect of EVERYONE's freedom to choose, and discrimination against those who do not follow one's dogmas! So. . .I am still not sure why these Hyper religious people chose THIS bakery to order their hate spreading cake. . .but I have a pretty good idea!
It's really not that hard to understand, the christian baker finds two grooms "disgusting", so the christians are trying to get the gay bakers to make a cake the gays would find "disgusting". Surprise surprise, no one wants to make a disgusting cake. But you probably already knew all that though, huh?
Yes. . .but there is still that element of which sides is for love and inclusion, and which side is for bigotry and discrimination!
If this is the case, then it is obvious that the baker was not discriminating against gays but against a ceremony they did not want to participate in due to religious convictions.
Then bigotry against his religious views is also evil. Or is it just bigotry against things that you support that you have a problem with?
In the cases where Christian bakers have been asked to make a cake for a same-sex couple, were the cakes themselves adorned with "pro-gay" messaging? Sounds to me like two different situations. The man in the OP wasn't denied service, partially or in total. Now if I'm wrong about that, then I would agree but I would rather that nobody be forced to write derogatory wording on a confection instead of both being required to. - - - Updated - - - Serial killers infringe on the rights of others. Same sex couples do not, at least not because they are a same-sex couple.
This is not a free speech case. Had the person requested specific Bible verses about gays then they would have a point. Even with the case of the Christian bakers making cakes for gay weddings they couldn't be forced to say that Christians are evil bastards they just had to bake cakes promoting a gay wedding.
I was born a "minority" in this country. To engage in gay sex is a choice, so spare us the "minority" bullcrap.
asking for a cake with a picture of 2 men holding hands with an X through them is no different than asking for a cake with a groom and a groom or a message, happy wedding Tom and Mike It is the same thing and either the baker can be forced in both situations or not. In the situation of the Christian-phobe, she claims that she would not write the words but would give the patron the stuff to do it himself. She feels that should be sufficient and the heterophobes agree In the case of the Christian baker, that would be completely unacceptable. Nothing short of forcing him to write homosexual messages on the cake would be acceptable Why is the double-standard so difficult to see? This woman should be fined, pay money to the "offended" and forced to attend re-education camp.