Palestinian terrorism in Tel-Aviv ( 20 Israeli citizens are wounded )

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  1. creation

    creation New Member

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    Well seeing as you now accept my point I can answer yours.

    It depends on what type of weapons surrounded the hospital. For example if a battle group was also stationed that would be different.

    And it depends what weapons were used and their targetting capability.
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    "Seems" inapplicable. Well that's definite then. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I'm sure if the authors were to approach the UN, ICJ, UNSC they would get a polite hearing...
     
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    There were alarms in Zichron Ya'akov- there are no military personals there.
    There was alarm in Ben Gurion airport- the airport isnt a military building.
    There were alrams in Yahud- there are no military personals there.
    A rocket was lended near my neighborhood- there are no military personals there.
    Rockets were lended near Bedouin civilians.
    And so on.

    In the field hospital were doctors, injured Gazen civilians and madical equimpment. The IDF didnt use this hospital for bonkers. And Hamas also prevented people from Gaza to go get the treatment.
    While in the hospoitals in Gaza terrorists shot from there thoward military personals:
    [video=youtube;8O9AHzUKYk8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8O9AHzUKYk8#t=11[/video]
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    Well, you know the old Newtonian thing; 'every action has an equal and opposite reaction'. Come onto my land, steal my stuff and throw me out of my home so that your family can move in...and you expect me to calmly hand over the keys with a smile and an apology for inconveniencing you?
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    If ever I heard a totally fake 'phone conversation' this is it. All the over-emphasizing of 'international law' and repetition is clearly phoney.
     
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    It's a very reasonable explanation of why the Jews are defending their land of Israel against the arab invador....And if we recall that unlike the Arabs who have 22 countries and own 99.85% of the regional land, Jews have nowhere else to go, you can rest assured that they will defend their country to the last Arab if they have to.
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    Nobody is invading Israel, don't be stupid. Why do you think the Occupied Territories are called 'occupied'? Could it be because Israel is occupying territory which is not Israeli?
    Seems to me that the Jews who are leaving Israel in droves have found lots of places to go...
    http://www.haaretz.com/news/feature...s-are-thinking-of-emigrating.premium-1.484945
    http://americanfreepress.net/?p=20298
    http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/10/18/why-are-so-many-jews-leaving-israel/
     
  8. stuntman

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    The phone call was to re-check that the hospital is empty of injured people and madical staff because the IDF recognized shooting from there. Which you can see clearly in the video + you can also see that there was a secondary expulsion, which indicate on weapons that were placed there.

    BTW- when the Arabs is talking about the international law is ok but when the IDF is talking about it is fake?
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    Well, given Israel's complete disdain for international law which they violate with predictable and depressing regularity, why would anyone listen to that rubbish with anything but a healthy dose of scepticism?
     
  10. stuntman

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    So are you saying that when Israel dropped leaflets on future attacks in Gaza is against international law?

    But still, Israel isnt violate it, like I showed here numerous of times.
     
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    Indeed. The hospital had been evacuated some time before having been attacked and with promises of more

    http://electronicintifada.net/blogs...cated-images-justify-bombing-al-wafa-hospital

    Israel seems to have been deliberately destroying medical facilities so that the Palestinians would have no ability to look after the 13,000 seriously injured.

    Obviously she was following the Dahiya Doctrine http://palestine-studies.org/jps/fulltext/186668 and the intent is believed to be Politicide That article also describes how the Israeli far right won that war.
     
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    Leaflets! Give me a break. When there is nowhere to hide in such a densely populated area such as Gaza city what good do you think a few leaflets, blown around by the wind, are going to achieve?
    There are countless pages listing Israel's serial law-breaking: https://scholar.google.co.uk/schola...&sa=X&ei=CPrEVO3cIZG4afSkgYgK&ved=0CB4QgQMwAA
     
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    Irrelevant. There need not be military personnel in every street. Gaza doesn't have hams fighters in every space either. But all its space remains restricted. Thousands of civilians died in the last Gazan war. Yet you whine about alarms at the airport. Shame on you.

    The idf hospital likely had numerous idf personnel there. Just like the us and UK have in Afghanistan.
    Israel stops Gazan fishermen getting food from their own waters. Yet you whine about an idf hospital. Shame on you.

    You wanted war. You got one. Stop whining.

    And the video is fake with commentary added after the fact. A propaganda piece.
     
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    Nobody is invading Israel because it defends itself well, I don't think even you can deny the fact that the arab goal is to get rid of Israel, this is your goal too btw. And the land is occupied because the arabs lost their last attempt to wipe Israel off the map and still refuse to sign a peace treaty with her.


    Nah, bs, a very small number is leaving and mostly because they know they have a country of their own to return to if/when the need arises.
     
  15. stuntman

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    The IDF use leaflets and phone calls to warn Gaza people on future attacks:
    And the ones who defy it are fetting hurt:
    Even Salah Kaware that live in Khan Younis said:
    Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/09/w...aflet-israeli-attackers-warn-gazans.html?_r=0

    A video that shows you this procedure:
    [video=youtube;doYmYby_7mk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doYmYby_7mk[/video]

    Is this procedure is against international law?
    Is this procedure is a warcrime?

    BTW- Salah Kaware said that civilians is been used as humen shields, and this is a warcrime.
     
  16. creation

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    No the Jewish people invaded not the Arabs. And only the idf is occupying territory now. Jews can go anywhere. And they do. Most live outside Israel. They can go to khazakstan.

    Does this defence mean you support more ethnic cleansing?
     
  17. Marlowe

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    Rubbish - it was Zionist Jews who was the INVADERS - invaded - disposed - displaced non-Jewish Palestinians.

    That 's a matter to be settled between Jews and their God,

    "The Jewish bible rejects the state of Israel


    Jews are forbidden by the Almighty to have a state of their own and are commanded by the Almighty to be in exile, subservient to the nations of the world. This command was given to us by the Almighty after the destruction of the holy temple, almost 2000 years ago, when the Jewish nation was exiled from the holy land, due to our sins. The Jewish bible, admonishes us that if we will sin while in the holy land, the Almighty will banish us from there and put us out amongst the nations.


    Deuteronomy
    4:25-27 …
    When thou shalt beget children and children’s children, and you shall have remained long in te land, and shall deal corruptly and make a carved idol, the likeness of anything and shall do evil in the sight of the LORD thy GOD, to provoke him to anger. I call heaven and earth to witness against you this day that you shall soon utterly perish from off the land into which you go over the garden to possess it; you shall not prolong your days upon it, but shall utterly be destroyed. And the LORD shall scatter you among the nations, and you shall be left few in number among the nations, where the LORD shall lead you
    During our stay in exile, the Torah instructs us to be humble
    and law abiding citizens.


    Jeremiah
    29:7 …
    And seek the peace of the city into which I have caused you to carried away captives, and pray to the LORD for it: for in its peace shall you have peace.


    Jews must be loyal to the governments under whose jurisdiction they reside, and should never entertain thoughts of rebellion. It is not within the capability of any Jew to end our exile and we must remain exiled until the redemption. The Almighty alone will redeem the Jews when we repent, when he sees it fit.


    Deuteronomy
    30:1-4 …
    And it shall come to pass, when all these things are come upon thee, the blessing and the curse, which I have set before thee, and thou shalt call them to mind among all the nations, into which the LORD thy GOD has driven thee, and shalt return to the LORD thy GOD, and shalt obey his voice according to all that I command thee this day, thou and thy children, with all thy heart, and with all thy soul; that then the LORD thy GOD will turn thy captivity, and have compassion upon thee, and will return and gather thee from all the nationsamongst whom the LORD thy GOD has scattered thee. If thy outcasts be at the utmost parts of heaven, from there will the LORD thy GOD gather thee, and from there will he fetch thee:


    Jews are forbidden to ascend, en masse, in order to occupy the holy land. If the Jews disobey the exilic commandment by going up, without direct orders from the Almighty, the results will be catastrophic.

    ===

    Unfortunately because the media is controlled by pro-Israel Zionist gangsters, they are using the Jewish suffering as a way to pressure the elected officials as specially on the congress, to give blind support to the 'state of Israel' even when this is against the interests of the American people, this results in allot of headaches for the Jews who keep the Torah, who want to be humble loyal American citizens.

    =====

    " Zionists want to keep
    Jews in danger around the world, so they oppress the Palestinians to a terrible
    degree, and make sure that their crimes are done in the name of all Jews around
    the world, so that Jews everywhere should suffer the consequences, may G-d spare
    us. And then, when something happens to Jews somewhere in the world, they come
    out and condemn when they themselves caused. And of course, out of the kindness
    of their hearts, they invite the Jewish victims to flee to come and live in
    their accursed “safe haven " - Zionist State
    ----

    source :

    .http://www.dropisrael.org/the-zionists-the-real-anti-jewish-terrorists.html


    (wink)
     
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    As I explained Israel was attacked repeatedly by half a dozen arab armies at a time, with the explicitly stated objective of wiping it off the map. The current occupation status is caused by their loss of the war the Arabs started and their "No peace, no recognition and no negotiations with Israel" commitment. Those two Arab states that negotiated in reasonably good faith are not occupied, in fact Israel has withdrawn from 99% of the land it once occupied.


    The arab population in the territory and inside Israel has more than quadrupled during Israel's existance, the only ethnic cleansing in the region is the attempted (but fortunately failed) ethinic cleansing of Jews from Israel and amazingly successful ethnic cleansing of 1,000,000 jews from Arab countries.
     
  19. stuntman

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    In the airport there is security but doesnt have military poresence there. Which means that the rockets thoward Gurion airport was aimed against civilian and not military presance.

    The IDF attacked the places and building that Hamas is using them as bonkers or shoot from them. Like I showed you.

    The IDF hospital was with doctors that took care of the injured Gazen people. Does doctors are a valid target?

    I never said I'm whining. I just shows what Hamas targeted in the last operation (as in the others). While the IDF was targeting buildings that are used for bonkers and have terrorist presance there.

    I never heard your condemnination about the anti-terror unites that broke into the Khoser deli in Franch to stop the terrorist that was there. Which 4 civilians were killed.
    You need to condemn this attack because civilians were killed. Like you do when the IDF is attacking building where terror activity is happening and civlians been killed in Gaza.

    If you think that what happened in Franch doesnt need to be condemned (because of killing civilians) then you cant condemn Israel because it will be hipocracy.

    You have commentary in the news chennels also. Do the local news chennels are fake too?
     
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    No in fact Israel attacked the Arabs before 1948. Moreover the Arabs did not attack Europe
    Instead Jewish European people came to take Palestine.

    The occupation came as part of a long term plan to take and settle more and more land. Which is why Israel attacked in 67. Those countries that fought back are no longer occupied.

    No the only cleansing that took place was the half million from and within Palestine in 1947.
     
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    Are you denying the fact that Arab terrorists were attacking and murdering Jews in Palestine from the early 1920s and it only intensified with each decade?

    Are you unaware that the objective of the Arab world has always been wiping Israel off the maps and they started several wars to achieve their goals?

    How do you square Israel returning 99% of the land it occupied in defensive wars with your bogus claim of Israel trying to take and settle more land?

    Have not you heard about the expulsion of almost 1 million Jewish citizens of Arab states from their homes and countries between 1948 and 1970 or so?

    Duh.
     
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    Did anyone object/protest when Adolf's Third Reich was "wiped off the map " ? Hmmmm.



    As the Zionists gangs was set to WIPE PALESTINE OFF THE MAP - THE Arab armies objective was defensive - to achieve justice for non-Jewish Palestinians - who were driven out of their ancestral homes by Zionists terrorists gangs - LEHI _ Irgun etc.



    ==,

    I'll mean while remind something your mind controllers withheld from you :

    " Israel-Palestine Liberation Organization letters of recognition (or Israel-PLO Recognition or Letters of Mutual Recognition) were a series of official letters of recognition between the government of Israel and its Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin and the Palestine Liberation Organization's Chairman Yasser Arafat dated September 9, 1993. The letters set the stage for, and were in reality the "preamble" to, the Oslo Accords ("Declaration of Principles On Interim Self-Government Arrangements") of September 13, 1993.

    ==
    "September 9, 1993

    Yitzhak RabinPrime Minister of IsraelMr. Prime Minister,The signing of the Declaration of Principles marks a new era..

    .I would like to confirm the following PLO commitments: The PLO recognizes the right of the State of Israel to exist in peace and security. The PLO accepts United Nations Security Council Resolutions 242 and 338.
    The PLO commits itself...to a peaceful resolution of the conflict between the two sides and declares that all outstanding issues relating to permanent status will be resolved through negotiations...the PLO renounces the use of terrorism and other acts of violence and will assume responsibility over all PLO elements and personnel in order to assure their compliance, prevent violations and discipline violators...the PLO affirms that those articles of the Palestinian Covenant which deny Israel's right to exist, and the provisions of the Covenant which are inconsistent with the commitments of this letter are now inoperative and no longer valid. Consequently, the PLO undertakes to submit to the Palestinian National Council for formal approval the necessary changes in regard to the Palestinian Covenant.

    Sincerely,Yasser Arafat.Chairman: The Palestine Liberation Organization.

    ===

    Zionist Jews have never planned on living in peace alongside their Arab "cousins". They choose the pursue their r insatiable greed for land -- "Lebensraum" instead of respecting the legitimate rights of non_jewish inhabitants.


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    Planting or not planting is not a question, and is not a demand... you cannot squat or infiltrate the realm of another country transgress it by pretending that because they squatted on it is theirs. The realm of Israel started during the time of the fathers and the mothers of Israel, the Bible and the reconstitution of the ancient Patrimony in 1948.

    No one can demand a 'Grand father clause' on the basis of their illegal encroachment on this Land of Israel dating from the time of the Bible, nowhere in history... this has been duplicated, if I missed part of it, this cannot be forced on tiny Israel that has already reached 8 million souls...

    Israel should make a decisive decision to relocate the 'NON ISRAELI' Arabs, with recompense, with a buy off their properties (if any) and live the rest of our lives in security... The enemy of Israel has been programmed by their Mullahs and clerics that this is their Land when it is not... and because of the lower education standard they receive, these people even believe in chimeras, i.e.72 virgins and boys like pearls, martyrs, and murder.

    Bibi Netanyahu should address the present situation with a steel fist and execute these murderers like the British did since the British laws have not yet been erased.

    Let them all die as 'Shahids = Martyrs' if they want, we should be ready to facilitate their journey to the destination they willingly have opted for.
     
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    Israel is the Jewish Homeland.

    Arabs who wish to terrorize us are clear and present military targets.
     
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    and yet Israel also steals land from innocent civilians.
     
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