FACT: Atheists are Lost

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  1. Incorporeal

    Incorporeal Well-Known Member

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    Now what happens to those Gentiles who accept the Lord Jesus and they become adopted into the family of Jews that Jesus was speaking to?
     
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    An alternative to the evolutionary theory in schools?

    Ok then we must include all faiths "alternatives to be fair and respectful. So scientology's alien beliefs, catholics creation belief, buddhism suggests that there is bo beginning or end, and muslim creation (similar to christian beliefs) and lets not forget about the church of satan, the pastafarians and all other religions. Including everyones "alternatives to evolution" is the obly real way to be fair snd to let the children decide for themselves what they want to believe.
     
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    Go for it. Talk to your legislators and convince them to initiate a bill that would make it a law that all alternatives to evolution must be taught in school. Good luck with that one.
     
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    take about two second at the end of an evolution class to say "or everything was created by Magic", all options covered then....
     
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    I did not say superstition is magic, I said magic is a superstition. You might want to increase your font size. Regardless, you still didn't answer my questions.
     
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    Aw come on, you can't share?
     
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    You are right, it is a ridiculous notion, that is why creationism wont be taught in schools, because its ridiculous and it wont pass either.
     
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    Noahide Laws?
     
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    If you can't accept the Bible, you can't accept the evidence anyone presents as truth. You will find what you seek. If I said I saw an alien, which I have not, would that convince you aliens exist? I hope not, my evidence is no different.
     
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    The problem isn't science, it's the humans that bend science to fit their agenda. Any system that involves human approval, such as scientific evidence needing human approval, is fallible.
     
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    I would have to disagree. Evolution is a science, it can be proven and shown. Now how we all got here in the beginning, well that is somewhat different and no atheist or deist can accurately answer that.
    So you can't teach ID with evolution.
    If parents are concerned, there is free sunday school, church, bible classes etc without private schools. You don't have religions(many) teaching evolution.
     
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    Humans have to interpret the bible. Humans had to translate the bible. Humans had to pass down the words from generation to generation before words were written.
    So human intervention is all over the bible or other religious texts. Therefore, fallible.
     
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    Every institution involves human approval, even Christianity (the Council of Nicaea), so every institution is fallible. There is no absolute authority (If you say God is, let me remind you that there are many religions and denominations that disagree with each other) so all evidence is subject to human approval. Science, however, has built in checks and balances. When bias does appear, whether by accident (like cold fusion) or design (like piltdown man), it is science that catches and exposes it. Even other institutions, such as the justice system, use the scientific method to help combat bias.
     
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    Like I said,,,, 'go for it'... if it will make you FEEL better.
     
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    Please show the posting (by providing a link) where you made that alleged statement. Regardless, you still have not convinced me to accept what you have asserted as true.

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    Creationism is no more ridiculous than evolution. Both have never been proven to be true.

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    What inquiry are you making about "Noahide Laws"?
     
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    We are talking about religion... not marketing techniques.
     
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    This one. You know, the post you were quoting (I highlighted the part I'm talking about):

    And again, you have ignored my request for the post where I said common sense was magic.
     
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    Your quoted post does not answer the question. You quoted "Yes, my rebuttal was against superstition because magic IS a superstition as your link says:"

    Where is the link you reference that I have highlighted in red letter above?

     
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    Evolution is already taught in schools and creationism is not. It is that way for a reason, mainly having to do with evidence that you find invalid. Creationism will not be taight in schools not matter how ridiculous YOU think evolution is.

    So keep swimming upstream if it gives you a workout.
     
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    I'm an atheist. And one thing I've noticed over the years is that more people will say they are atheists in a private conversation with another athiest than will say that in front of religious people.
     
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    it was to make those that think we were creaked by Magic feel better, not me


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    Do you suspect that those that think they were created by Magic need to feel better? Who are those that think they were created by Magic? I don't know of any people who think or even believe that they were created by Magic.
     
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    Religion has built in checks and balances as well. I can't think of many systems that do not have a checks and balances system, at least not in the US.
     
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    If that is what you believe, then yes, that would be fallible.
     
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