FACT: Atheists are Lost

You have still not provided any proof that will substantiate your claims of me being either a "disingenuous troll" or a "hypocrite" or that my actions can be classified as 'hypocritical'. Remember you don't have access to a list of either my virtues or my feelings.

OK.. if you have my number... what is that number?

 

Really? You know that to be a physical materialistic fact?

 

Because he doesn't know what the word christian means and he's waiting for someone to copy and past a dictionary definition for him!

Funny how he tries to tell us all what christianity is but doesn't know what it means!

 

Oh I know very well what it means... Also I am not looking for a 'dictionary definition' but only offered that option to the person who is avoiding the question. You, Anomaly, should know by now that I am well acquainted with dictionaries, so your claim of what I am waiting for is strictly one of those creatures in your mind.. Quite hilarious I might add.

 

Of course I have, numerous times. Now you are being a disingenuous troll for pretending that I have not provided evidence to substantiate my claims. Indeed I have and you have not refuted this evidence.

 

Then my mind should have been compelled to accept it as true... however that has not happened, therefore, your alleged proof is no proof at all. Your alleged evidence also has not compelled my mind to accept it as true, therefore your alleged evidence is no evidence at all.

 

Its called denial Incorp. Just because you are in denial of the truth does not mean the truth is not true.

 

"truth"? You have not successfully demonstrated a definition of truth that is irrefutable. See the thread entitled "What is truth".

 

The truth is that you are in denial of the truth.

 

Without there being an acceptable and irrefutable definition of the term 'truth', your claim is disingenuous.

 

Just because you do not accept the truth does not mean others do not.

The reason you are a hypocrite is that you accept objective evidence as evidence for truth when that evidence agrees with what you want to be true but deny the existence of objective evidence when that evidence disputes your beliefs.

 

Just because others (whoever fits the bill) are gullible is not a problem of mine. As for objective reality... Try responding to the thread that is entitled "What is Objective Reality"? Objective reality is merely an imaginative condition assumed and accepted by the scientific community in an attempt to justify the use of the scientific method. Assumptions are things that are accepted as true without proof.

 

I did post on that thread. Regardless.

None of that changes the fact that you are a disingenuous troll and hypocrite in this reality.

Objective reality is not an "imagined condition". Objective realty is validated by the collective experience humanity in general including yourself despite your desperate attempts to deny this fact.

If you do not believe in objective evidence then why do you present such evidence for your claims. This is hypocrisy.

If you do not believe in objective evidence then why are you in a forum whose only purpose is to present objective evidence in support of claims ?

 

Show proof of my feelings and virtues. Without that your claim is as empty as a total vacuum.

Since you have included me own experience in the above statement, then show PROOF of claim.

Who has mentioned "objective evidence" other than you. What was being discussed between you and I was "objective reality". Come on with that definition... use a dictionary if necessary.

Once again... it is 'objective reality' NOT 'objective evidence'. Quit confusing the issue by changing the goal posts.

 

Prove that objective evidence is not a subset of objective reality.

The confusion is yours.

 

Who said that it was not? You? Point being... a subset is not the specified item in and of itself.

 

You are the one whining about my use of the term objective evidence in conjunction with a discussion of objective reality which is abject nonsense.

How can the existence of objective reality proven or disproven without objective evidence ? They are one in the same.

Your claim that there is a difference is pure ignorance of the subject material. The existence of anything in reality is evidence for that reality.

Your hypocrisy is reliance on objective "EVIDENCE" when it agrees with you and then claiming that objective evidence does not exist when the evidence refutes your beliefs.

 

Well, according to the definition of the term PROOF, there is also the availability of 'argument'. Remember: "Proof" equals "evidence or argument that compels the mind to accept an assertion as true."

What is 'reality'? Seriously... I would like for you to show proof of 'reality'.

Wrong... I have no exclusive reliance on "objective evidence" or (as you stated) objective "EVIDENCE".. I am also open to 'argument that compels the mind to accept an assertion as true.' Therefore your claim of hypocrisy is a false claim for the reason stated above. In either case the item(s) submitted must be capable of compelling my mind to accept the assertion as true.

 

Once again you have no hopelessly lost.

How can an argument compel your mind to accept an assertion as true without objective evidence.

Please give an example of such an argument ?

The fact of the matter is that you use objective evidence in arguments to try and compel others to accept your assertions as true. That you turn around and claim there is no such thing as objective evidence makes you a hypocrite

 

Have you forgotten all about that tool called 'logic'?

How about any argument wherein the scientific method was used as an instrument in the argument. You see, the scientific method has no foundation that has been proven to be true. The use of the scientific method is based on assumptions.

I have made no such claim. I have claimed that the use of the scientific method is based on 3 assumptions the first of which is: that objective reality exists. That objective reality exists is an assumption that has no proof.

 

FACT: Christians are lost!

(And all other religions too)

I am glad no one was killed in the name of atheism today... or ever.

How many have died in the name of Christianity alone?

 

What is the difference between dying by a sword or by cancer or age? Which is more cruel? God made death, that seems more cruel than slaughtering innocence imo. You and I will never agree, we view existence from two completely different perspectives.

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Finally, an Atheist agreeing Atheism is a religion.

 

I might add that since there's no Lord out there your imagination will sort out your assignments. I feel very sorry for people who were brainwashed with that goober nation gibberish when they were young. It's the only reason that fairy tale is still around after 2000 years.

 

As much as anything about God and Religion is a physical materialistic fact!

 

God reveals to you to post childish dribble on a daily basis?
I think you're full of BS.

If you're serving his purpose on these forums it isn't to tell about the good word. So the bible must be wrong when it says to go out and spread the good word. Or are you making stuff up.