Irate fundamentalist Christian mom: "Stop forcing dinosaurs on kids!"

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  1. Finley99

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    I'm a Jack and the Beanstalk man myself. I like the ogre and his magic harp.....not to mention "Fe Fi Fo Fum I Smell The Blood Of An Englishman"

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  2. Margot2

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    Gad... when you put it that way, it really sounds NUTS.
     
  3. Finley99

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    All Religious people are NUTS but they can't help it.....they were brainwashed when they were children.....well, except for the mentally deficient.
     
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    Atheists have the luxury of denying the existence of any relation to each other, therefore, the crazy atheists are simply crazy people. The fact that we Christians can be lumped together by our belief in Christ somehow makes that belief suspect when linked to a human that's missing evidential information... in the eyes of atheists that is. You will find what you seek.
     
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    Crazy is a very subjective term. I could say, " the craziest christians are simply crazy people", and it would be the same pointless statement.

    Can christians be lumped together? There are many differing degrees of christianity and atheism. There are also many different types of christianity. So "lumping christians together" is really hard to do. Lutherans do not believe the same as catholics, for instance.

    Do you feel like christianity is a victim because of your statement? Im not sure what the main point was.
     
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    YOU deny the Social Science that shows The Child Abuse the millions of American fatherless Welfare kids suffer because you support sexual promiscuity and Gayness.
     
  7. Dood

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    Victim? I don't know if I would say that. There is a certain % of the population that is kookoo, therefore, any sizeable group of people will likely be infected. Atheists tend to be loners, not subscribing to any group, therefore, they are not subject to the same scrutiny.
     
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    This is actually a very hilarious subject in which most people could be right in certain conditions.

    Suppose you had a time machine and sent the dinosaur doubters back in time to cavort with the dinos. You would be right and they would be wrong (and scared out of their minds). But then the people who claimed that dinos and humans existed at the same time would be correct because you made it happen although you had previously said that such people were nuts. It's sort of like watching a sci-fy movie where a bunch of idiots stumble upon a lost work with dinosaurs running around. In fact the new Jurassic World movie will be out this June, so humans and dinos will in fact have co-existed at the same time.
     
  9. Smarty

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    So, all I have to do is believe in Thor to cure my mental illness(atheism)? I never knew Atheism was a mental illness. Does our brain need a religion to function properly? I wonder which religion is the most mentally stable one? Lets look at how many deaths have been caused by those crazy atheists in the name of non-belief: 0 deaths. Now Christianity: Too many to count. So Christianity causes murder and violence, atheism does not. Using the logic that crazy people kill other people. I would conclude that Christianity has produced the largest amount of crazy people ever.
     
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    That's not what I meant at all. I was simply pointing out that since atheists don't subscribe to any one doctrine atheists are not subject to the same scrutiny as Christians in regards to the kookoo versions of each. Christian kooks, such as this one, are pointed to as references to the evil of Christianity. However, an atheist kook is simply a kook, not representative of atheists at all, such as freedomseeker.
     
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    I dont think that people are trying to say "Christians" are crazy because of what this woman said. I think people are using this as an example in pointing out how religion can make some people crazy.

    I personally believe that the reason this lady is saying this isn't because she really is THAT "illogical" but because the evidence of dinosaurs is a direct contradiction to the Bible for those who take the Bible in its pure literal form. If human beings were indeed created by God 5000 or 6000 years ago then there are literally only two options when it comes to dinosaurs. Either 1 they were alive when people were alive, or 2 they didn't exist at all. There is no middle ground in that aspect if you take the Bible's word verbatim. So I believe this lady and her supporters in this group are purposefully overriding their own logical brains in order to keep their beliefs in line with the Bible's literal word. I believe they fear that if they accept the overwhelming evidence of the existence of dinosaurs then that puts them in direct contradiction to Genesis which in turn means they don't believe in the Bible in it's literal form which is bad news in their eyes.

    I think that many people who are attacking "Christians" aren't really attacking Christians as a whole but merely pointing out the problems that religion can bring about. In some extreme cases such as this one religion will literally prevent you from using your own logical brain. Many then in turn use extreme examples like this to try and say that religion itself is a huge speed bump in the overall progression of humanity. Which of course isn't true but extremists will try to paint that picture.

    The majority of people I've seen are fully capable of believing in God and using rationality. Only the most extreme fanatics are like the lady in this story but they do not represent the majority by any means.
     
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    Ok I see what you where saying. I dont see any special treatment or privileges for Athiests.

    Crazy is a relative term based conformity to societies standards. If you don't conform (like being a Christian) then it is unusual, and society (christian dominated) punishes the individual for not conforming. Some are called "crazy" for not having the same beliefs as society. So Atheists are punished by society for being different.

    There are mentally ill people, and their are people society labels as mentally ill because of their non conformist behavior.

    There are legitimate crazy people that are christians and Atheists and everything in between.

    If anything Athiests are discriminated against a lot more than christians. So please don't try to pull the Christian victim card. Atheists do have it harder.
     
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    Gosh, those dancing dinosaurs nearly tipped over Guam.
     
  14. FreedomSeeker

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    Awesome post. Yes, we need to be careful we don't tip over Guam, like this congressman fears:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7XXVLKWd3Q
    :-D
     
  15. FreedomSeeker

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    Well when faced with the prospect of giving their impressionable young children a book that actually thinks that talking donkeys are real, and the book claims to be breathed on by the creator of the universe, Christians say to themselves, basically, "well, um, okay, I guess I have no problem with that!"
    Crazy? You be the judge.
     
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    Can we at least agree that the one(s) who believe in the following are "kooks" (as you say I am)?
    Talking snakes
    Talking donkeys (I'm sensing a pattern here)
    Giants are real
    The earth is 6000 years old (you know, younger than some living trees are today.)
    A man can live inside a fish for 3 days (but "god" can't defeat "chariots of iron")
    Yep, a book that says to kill gays in multiple places is very very very very moral.
    Slavery is cool, and it's perfectly fine to beat one's slave (as long as he dies after 2 days.)
    Women should shut the "H" up in church, it's a man's domain.
    Jews, Hindus (heck, EVERYBODY that doesn't think like my invisible friend) deserves torture.

    Dude, can we agree these people would be defined as "kooks", Dood?
     
  17. FreedomSeeker

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    One book says that that Ogre is real, and [I/]one[/I] book says that Yahweh is real....so arguably from that point of view they are about EQUAL in their believability/evidence.
     
  18. FreedomSeeker

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    As a former Christian I was embarrassed by the bible implying that the earth was only 6000 years old. I felt stupid believing in that idiotic book. Are you embarrassed that they were so stupid that they believed that?

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    Yes, and I don't know which is more insane, believing that or that a book that says to kill gays is the most moral book of all time, I really don't.
     
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    Isn't Hovind in JAIL right now? I think he actually is.
     
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    I know that it may sound weird for me to say but I really don't personally see religious folks as "crazy". It's hard for me to say what I mean without sounding condescending or disrespectful and that really is not my intention at all. I feel that people can still be logical while believing in illogical things. I find the belief in the Bible in the literal form to be illogical but I don't think that Christians are illogical people. Perhaps that is just my personality and me accepting people for who they are without passing judgement.

    The Bible and religion itself just doesn't make sense to ME. Apparently it makes perfect sense to billions of other people. Who am I to judge them? For all I know they COULD be right, I highly doubt it, but it is possible. Even if they are wrong who really cares? If people wish to worship the divine and they aren't hurting anybody then who am I to judge them for that? They may say some things that make me raise my eyebrows and roll my eyes but that's their business, not mine.

    I don't want to try and change people just because they don't agree with me. If the lady wants to raise her kids to believe that dinosaurs were fake then that's her family and her business, not mine. It's not my place to tell her to stop believing that just like its not her place to try to force ME to change the way I think about religion. The only time I have an issue with religion is when it is used to discriminate against others or harm other people. As long as people remain peaceful and respectful then they can worship rocks for all I care.
     
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    So the evidence that the bible is wrong is also overwhelming. Time to find a book that's not so dumb.
     
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    What, there are literally thousands of groups to belong to. You don't usually appear so narrow minded.
     
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    I dunno, Margot, I've heard plenty of people actually BELIEVE some lady 2000 years ago (who was trying to hide an affair) when she claimed that she was involved in a "virgin birth", and that "god" is the one who knocked her up. Some people will believe anything, if they are scared of their own eventual death enough.

    Or was it that Joseph simply couldn't wait to tap that until marriage? If that's true, then then whole Biblical narrative is false.
     
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    "I do NOT believe in the wild first chapter of the bible - I believe in evolution!, but I do believe in the wild LAST chapter of the Bible (the zombie returns), because to not believe in the LAST chapter of the Bible I might not survive my own death and go to heaven.....and I'm too insecure to face death."
     
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    The Bible doesn't make sense to ANYBODY who truly, really, practices being intellectually consistent, and also believes in the scientific method, and evidence to a jury-level of proof. Nobody. To believe in the Bible they have to violate one of the three things I just mentioned.

    You appear to not care enough about them that it's ok to you if they are DELUSIONAL.
     

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