It's unhealthy to be an atheist...

Well lets define by hypothetical example.

I have a gun. It has bullets. I walk up to another person. I aim and fire that gun at the person's head. That person's head explodes in blood, brain matter and skull fragments. I have ended that person's objective reality.

Let's take another example.

You are in the kitchen. The stove's burner is on high and is red hot. You have such a strong desire to comprehend what objective reality is, that you place your hand directly on the red hot burner. The result is that your hand has interacted with "objective reality" and you require immediate medical attention.

 

Actually you have ended that persons physical life. So what is your point?

That is akin to some people walking on fiery hot coals with bare feet and not suffer any burns whatsoever and requiring no medical attention. Again, what is your point?

 

What fun is it to question a study cited and not presented? If the actual study WAS presented, then it might be disappointing.It would be not fun, to see that it was poorly done. We're here to examine different viewpoints and have fun. Fun. YOLO

 

Didn't you just post recently, about 1 week or so, about how bad a whole group of people are because of the color of their skin?

 

That we all function and interact within an objective reality.

My example has nothing to do with fire walking.

I guess its difficult for some to comprehend the fact that they are an inextricable part of objective reality from birth to death.

apparently you are somebody that has this difficulty, despite physically interacting with a computer's keyboard, having said actions translated into digital bits that are transmitted x number of miles thru a physical network obeying various laws of physics to ultimately arrive at another's computer where those digital bits are translated into a human readable form. Nah, that ain't objective reality, that's scientific mumbo jumbo.

 

Are you certain of that? Or is that merely a belief that you are wanting to promote? Can you show PROOF of the existence of "objective reality"?

Sure it does. The heat from a stove top is comparable to the heat of red hot coals.

Again... what is objective reality? This information and conversation would actually be better suited in that thread entitled "what is objective reality".

I think that is due to our mutual agreement that such can happen if we permit it to happen.

 

I'll take my chances.

 

Disagree, both because I see plenty of well-adjusted atheists posting here and because of the angry, ranting, loony Christians I've seen here also.

 

I gave you some definitive "evidence" of the existence of "objective reality". Nothing subjective about it at all.

Do you actually need PROOF, that if you jammed your hand down on a red hot stove burner your wouldn't sustain severe tissue damage that would require medical attention? Why don't you simply conduct your own experiment and I'm damn sure your mind will compel you to accept "objective reality".

Don't play dumb.

Its the universe that exists all around the space immediately outside your head.

Of course. so what?

 

How did believing in god work out for all of the health of Islamic suicide bombers?

Eating right will keep you healthy. Believing in Zeus isn't going to stop heart disease.

 

I've never been convinced of this. I don't think there is anything consistent about being an atheist (just not believing in any gods) that would lead to that. There are certainly sub-sets of activity that could be a factor. The social elements of religion and things like meditation as you mention could be beneficial and the stress of angry anti-theism in a strongly religious society could be harmful but none of those things are exclusive to atheism or theism. Atheists can have religion (or similar social activities) while theists could not and far from all atheists fit the angry and aggressive stereotype while a number of theists clearly do.

Atheism isn't a belief system. More significantly, atheism (or theism) isn't a choice. Even if atheism were less healthy, I couldn't do any more about it than I can about my unhealthy gender or genetic background (and trying to force or fake a belief could well be even worse).

As below, I'm not sure about your definition of anatheism. Regardless, I can't return to any religious belief or theism since I've never held any in the first place. Another flaw in many of these characterisations of what atheism is or means for people is the presumption that atheists were once theists who "lost" their faith (especially from Americans). Indeed, I wouldn't be at all surprised if some of the questions of the unhealthiness of atheism relates to people who feel (or are made to feel) they have lost their faith rather than people who have simple never believed.

I'm not sure but the reference I found suggested it is just a term for agnostic atheist, but that's inconsistent with how the OP is using it.

 

We're not hostile, we're just trying to save you from making a terrible mistake that will cost you the rest of your natural life on this planet.

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Truth hurts.

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I have not met many religious people who don't drink, smoke, swear or chase women. Where do you find these people?

 

Nobody can prove "objective reality", but it certainly makes for a useful assumption.

 

How does religion cost me natural life when statistics show religion may actually make me healthier? I'll hang up and listen.

 

Please DO show these "studies"...... (and the religious bigot group that funded them)

Your claim that believers are all healthy and happy is ridiculous.

If YOU were happy and healthy you wouldn't need to care what atheists were or weren't....

 

So now, the peanut gallery accuses me of hate? There is nothing I have ever posted, that would even hint of me hating anyone. Let us reserve the hate for the militant atheists, and the militant "true believers" who use some god as a justification for immorality.

You won't find much hate in my group, the agnostics, who are intelligent enough to discern that "certainty" when it comes to the existence of god, is utterly impossible. And those that claim certainty, from either team, are basic village idiots. The people with this certainty, are where you will find the haters, not in my group. Certainty is the mother of hate, don't cha know?

 

Well, I'll ignore your ignorant insult since nothing else you posted showed intelligence either.

WEAK people make up stuff to make themselves feel good. I have a real life that's makes me feel good.


Ignorant people think there are only TWO "certainties".......that there either is a "god" or there is no "god"........the inability to entertain any other possibility certainly doesn't make them the village "smart person"....

 

lol

Atheism kills people? So all the heavy Christians I know (who fall to gluttony) are going to out live me?

LOL

 

http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=395507&p=1064724763#post1064724763

homos?
black people are a reason a certain law was in place?

Those types of words and statements can lead one to think you have hate for certain types.

So there is a hint.
Intentional or unintentional we don't know.

 

Simple, by spending your time here focusing on an afterlife that will never happen.

 

So does God for those who have not had the experience.

 

You gave nothing that amounted to PROOF, and the evidence did not even come close to being compelling to my mind.

 

Oh? so you are saying that the evidence of the burnt hand is not proof that you will be burned by the reality of flesh against heat?
If that ain't "objective reality" then perhaps you can tell me what is subjective about it or what is unreal about it.

 

Will the assumption of God tell you what flu strains to vaccinate against next year? Or help you put a satellite into orbit around another planet? Or help you build a faster computer? I thought not.

 

I play with fire on occasions just to amuse the kids... holding burning flames in the palm of my hand without being burnt by the flames. It is all about physics dude... google 'firewalker'.. one of the videos offers an explanation (from the Physics point of view) that makes it plain and simple how the 'trick' is done without harm to the body.
Even the Physics explanation however only opens the door for the insertion of the word "faith" ... faith in what is said by the Physics explanation. Faith is a mental process.