America the land of the free???

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  1. Consistency

    Consistency New Member

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    The following is a list of specific violations of freedom in the United States:

    *freedom from property tax
    *freedom to build on one's property without a building permit
    *freedom from recurring registration fees on vehicles and vessels
    *freedom from rent
    *freedom from wage slavery (as a consequence of rent, property tax, and recurring registration fees)
    *freedom from income tax upon the poor
    *freedom from being forced to buy health insurance
    *freedom to drive a vehicle without a photo ID (in all states), and oftentimes even facial biometric scanning (in many states)
    *freedom to ride a bicycle at night without a light (this varies by state)
    *freedom to ride a bicycle on the sidewalk (this varies between cities)
    *freedom to ride a bicycle in parks or on school grounds (this varies between cities and districts)
    *freedom from jury duty at distant locations
    *freedom of minors from long daytime detainment under the guise of 'education'
    *freedom of minors from homework slavery
    *freedom of minors from any and all tyranny imposed by their parents or legal guardians
    *freedom to homeschool one's children (this varies by state)
    *freedom of minors to walk around during normal detainment hours
    *freedom of minors from long-term imprisonment without criminal charges
    *freedom from forced and/or fraudulent drugging with SSRIs, which serve to cause permanent sexual dysfunction and bad personality changes
    *freedom from foreskin amputation
    *freedom from one's tax money being used to fund foreskin amputation (in the majority of states)
    *freedom to have significantly tinted windows on one's vehicle (this varies by state)
    *freedom to wear a mask (in some states and cities)
    *freedom to carry a concealed lethal weapon without a license (except in Vermont)
    *freedom to own sawed-off firearms
    *freedom to own a silencer without a license
    *freedom to own unregistered handguns (in many states), or unregistered guns in general (in some states)
    *freedom of assisted suicide (except in a few states)
    *freedom to make 'racist' speech
    *freedom to grow or use marijuana or other recreational drugs (in most states)
    *freedom to drink alcohol under the age of 21, or to provide alcohol to such a person
    *freedom of prostitution (except in rural Nevada)
    *freedom to be nude in public
    *freedom to have consensual sexual relations at certain ages or across certain age boundaries
    *freedom to make benign lies to agents of the federal regime
    *freedom to disobey commands by regime officers
    *freedom to resist arrest by regime officers
    *freedom to flee from regime officers
    *freedom from warrantless search and seizure of one's person or vehicle
    *freedom from one's head hair being shaved (this is often done to prisoners and in the military)
    *freedom from tyrannical dominance-asserting rules in prisons (just look at the list of federal prison rules)
    *freedom from jet airplane noise
    *freedom from background music and audio advertisements in retail stores
    *freedom to buy retail items at a fair price without using a privacy-violating store card (this varies between companies)
    *freedom of a geographicly coherent population to unilaterally secede from the municipal, county, state, or federal regimes

    -That's all that I can think of right now, but I'm sure that there's more.
    I didn't even bother trying to list the violations of freedom on the internet.
    Indeed, americans are not free. But many countries in the world are even worse,
    such as Saudi Arabia, Iran, China, North Korea, and the Islamic State.

    The violated freedoms that I listed are just an addition to what other people have already stated, the point being that we have already established the problem. The real question is: What is the cause of the problem, and what is the solution?

    The cause of the problem is that people with innate sociopathy breed too much and are very great in number, and have put themselves into positions of legislative, executive, judicial, lobbyist, and private power. Sociopaths have a perverse vulgar desire to disrupt freedom and the privacy of the innocent, which fuels their delusional sense that they dominate or encompass other people. All of such freedom-disrupting sociopaths should be eugenicly executed out of the genepool, but doing so would be a monumental task, not to mention an impossible one at the current time. The long-term solution is to eugenicly prolificly breed innately freedom-respecting decent folk, so as to gradually gain the upper hand over the sociopaths.
     
  2. ChristopherABrown

    ChristopherABrown Well-Known Member

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    Does this mean you consider truth to be "odd"? Maybe some truths scare you too much to consider them at all. Well, I suppose some should.

    Get some backbone! A little social courage goes a long way towards feeling like a worthy human being.

    For example. I watched a 2 hour, detailed documentary about the construction of WTC1 in 1990. After 9/11 I realized that I actually knew pretty much exactly how the Twin towers were constructed.

    Did I run and hide? No. I waited until dialog started on the structural aspects and joined in. Within a few months I knew that there was a conspiracy to misrepresent the structural cores of the towers.

    Did I run and hide? No. I argued for 8 years within the abridged arena of free speech we call the internet. Finally I realized the paid covert agents actually had forums supporting them. I learned about title 18, chapter I, part 115, section 2382; code forbidding any who know of treason from not disclosing it, and realized that I had to make a competent disclosure with full evidence to us district court judges.

    http://algoxy.com/psych/9-11title_18.disclosure.html

    http://algoxy.com/psych/9-11title_18.civreassign.html

    http://algoxy.com/psych/9-11title_18.civreasign1.html

    I learned us district court judges are okay with treason. The first link above is the disclosure and the 2 after it document district court judges concealing treason.

    So, when people who are not afraid of truths, and know some, speak out; do yourself and your children a favor, avoid calling them "odd".

    Private Citizen objects to unreasoned fears controlling people he has to relate to in the formation of functional
    opinion. And that is an intelligent position with lots of integrity.

    Maybe that kind of integrity scares you too.
     
  3. Casper

    Casper Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    Ahhh, a Truther. Scare me, nope, I just shake my head at the nutty things bored minds can come up with, the sad part is you believe the nonsense. But hey, thanks for jumping in and affirming my comment on the influx of odd.
     
  4. ChristopherABrown

    ChristopherABrown Well-Known Member

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    Ah, labeling.

    What is "nutty" about structural information proving NIST provided an erroneous structural analysis of the Twins demise. That is what is found at this link.

    http://algoxy.com/psych/9-11title_18.disclosure.html

    NIST did not have plans for the towers while being mislead about the structural cores design. They didn't even perform a mathematical analysis, they farmed it out.

    Your comment proves you are working to create and exploit social fears. Such action is concealing treason and the sort of thing covert agents infiltrating web forums do.

    Such behavior would basically prove you are promoting secret methods of mass murder? That is very UnAmerican.

    Beyond odd.
     
  5. timslash

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    There are still a lot of people in America who wanna ban our flag, bring more immigrants, support government and their foolish ideas... We don't have freedom of speech, we don't have many other freedoms, to see land of the free - we should fight for our ideals!
     
  6. Telekat

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    The first amendment doesn't restrict citizens, it restrict the government. You getting banned from this website or getting your posts removed has nothing to do with the government.

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    Bull.
     
  7. Quantum Nerd

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    In America, your amount of freedom depends on your bank account. If you have deep pockets, you are pretty much free to do whatever you want, often even circumventing the law. If you are poor, not so much.
     
  8. stekim

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    We are not renouncing citizenship. We will have to pay taxes the same as any other citizen. There are easy ways around the rest. When we decided to retire oversees we did all our homework!
     
  9. stekim

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    Well,they are not more vast than mine, but either way. In any event, if you think America is sitting on the top of the freedom ledge your defintion of freedom is simply different than mine. Western Europe and America are about the same overall. They love their laws, rules and regulations, too. But they are not as much of a police state as we are. So they get some credit there. Overall, about the same level of freedom by and large. By my definition Vietnam (because you've been there, I used that) wins out over all of them and does so easily. So do Panama and Mexico and surely Thailand. So just on your list alone America is not even close to the top.

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    Can't argue with that. While you cannot do "anything", you are FAR freer as a rich white man than you are as a poor black one. Clearly.
     
  10. stekim

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    No offense, but conservatives trample freedoms with the exact same zeal. Depending on what it is, often times they are even worse (I live in the Bible belt. There are very few "small government" types actually here despite their words to the contrary).
     
  11. Hoosier8

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    The far left and the religious right both want to use government force to implement their utopian beliefs. Small government types are vilified by the machine.
     
  12. 9/11 was an inside job

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    yep were such a free country we have cops going out tazering citizens for minor things,were such a free country that police no longer have to issue search warrents to search through your homes,we are such a free country that we are no longer even allowed to smoke indoors ANYWHERE anymore,not even airports or bars of all places,we are such a free country that police beat up women at peaceful protests all the time kicking elderlys our of wheelchairs with a mere slap on the wrist.we are such a free country we have to pay taxes to an ILLEGAL organization. this is some great free country we have alright.woo hoo!!!!:roflol:

    i have to leave at a ballgame when the stupid brainwashed sheople put their hand over their heart and sign the national anthem,i cant stand hearing those propaganda bs words LAND OF THE FREE bs crap.
     
  13. ChristopherABrown

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    Agreed, all of that except for the nonsmoking issue. Corporate destruction of human respiratory systems by media collusion/promotion feeding money to the medical industry is a good thing to stop. Basically that is something people who are not addicted refuse to put up with, 2nd hand smoke; rather than governmental interference. The government would prefer we die after 25 years of tobacco abuse.

    But what I quoted brought up another issue for me related to freedom, bravery.

    That anthem has one more line after the "land of the free".

    And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
    O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!
     
  14. ChristopherABrown

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  15. JP Cusick

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    I see this as very near to insane.

    The only freedom you have any real concern is the freedom of speech which is very near to the freedom to do nothing.

    All we get in the USA is hot-air as meaningless dribble and talking tough while doing nothing.

    And you think that the freedom of Speech comes from our Gov and the Constitution and again I see that as insane.


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    That is the reality.
     
  16. ChristopherABrown

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    Hmmm, you think something is near insane but cannot make a coherent sentence about it. A cognitive dead end at least.

    Sounds like the type cognitive distortion of "all or nothing thinking" a covert infiltrator of message boards would apply to something they were trying to foul peoples understanding of.

    Intentional misinterpretation is the trademark of cognitive infiltrators, employing cognitive distortions of "over generalization" covertly pretending to be real Americans, is very common these days. Of course they never answer questions. And refuse to acknowledge anything that might lend to the unity of American people.
     
  17. Private Citizen

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    Good for you. Where are you going? I like France myself. They helped America when we were trying to be free and they treat their citizens well for the most part.
     
  18. Private Citizen

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    I'm a smoker and I'm all for the smoking laws. Other people have the right to be in public places and not have to be exposed to my smoke. I think it shouldn't have to be a law though. We the people should be responsible enough to respect other peoples rights. That's how free people are supposed to act any way. The problem with the world is stupidity, stupid people need to be told what to do and how to do it. We need to find an island to make the new America. To enter the country you will need to pass an iq test and a background check. Weed out the idiots!
     
  19. Private Citizen

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    Good job America you have successfully proven you are free to be insignificant and meaningless! If you try to be significant and meaningful the trolls show up and ridicule you and call you meaningless insults based on prior programming (brainwashing). Thank you to all those that were sincere and honest with themselves about the dire situation we are in. It really is dire. The fact they are still teaching kids in the public school's that we live in a free world is a big problem. It's teaching people to mistake slavery for freedom.

    Some of you like the word prisoners. I just have this to say about that... when slaves were "enslaved" they were taken into captivity. It's the same thing but the problem with prisoners is it opens the door for the brainwashed response of "you don't have to stay you are free to leave" and personally that one pisses me off, because I want the freedom I was told I had in the bill of rights I should just leave my county that promised me these rights. No if you don't want freedom and can not handle it then you need to leave we don't need your kind here anymore. Don't forget to take your offspring their mind has been compromised to weakness and weak minds have no place in a free society!
     
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    No.

    Freedom is not power.

    Those are two different things entirely.
     
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    Ah, but I must have the freedom to control you as I see fit for I am the authority you must not disobey.

    Authority can only be obeyed, and never resisted.

    Those that do are insane.

    Freedom is an illusion to dissapear when I yank that leash I have you on.

    RESPECT MY AUTHORITY!
     
  22. ChristopherABrown

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    Only the fearful believe power is freedom.
     
  23. JP Cusick

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    It is ironic that you would preach free speech and then you can not comprehend the speech as it is given to you.

    People everywhere can speak whatever they want as it is a normal human body and mind function, and it does not come from any Constitutional right.

    The problem is getting anyone to speak anything of substance, instead of just speaking gibberish and nonsense and talking tough without any action.

    I really find that the US Constitutional right to "freedom of speech" has done much more harm and very little if any benefit, because it tells Americans to just talk without substance, and that the "speech" includes the lowest and dirties forms.

    Has anything possitive or wholesome come from free speech? ~ I know of nothing that has.
     
  24. JP Cusick

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    :flagus:
    It did not start out by saying "power" as it was a reference to money, as to the rich having the freedom and the poor getting the boot.

    See the quoting above for what was really said - just above the American flag. :yawn:

    I guess that when you guys insert a different word as your own word then that might make your point but it is a worthless point.
     
  25. ChristopherABrown

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    No one can make sense of what you posted.

    What is ironic is that in the same post you state "this is reality".

    Your posting style is that of a covert infiltrator working to foul cognition.

    Your post earlier was classic mimicry in a repackaging form.

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    Cognitive infiltration of web forums is well documented. Your unaccountable act, evasion, manipulation, distortion and deception fits that description.

    https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/02/24/jtrig-manipulation/

    http://www.salon.com/2010/01/15/sunstein_2/
     

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