Please spare us the phony pretexts this time around, eh? Nobody believes the pretexts anyway, most of us just don't care, and it pisses me off that you think we are that stupid. . So, 7AM tomorrow, it's on to Poland (er, Iran).
Hitler invaded Poland for the purpose of land annexation, and expanding the German empire. For what purpose do you think Israel wants to attack Iran? How are those two situation analogous in any way?
Israel has been stealing land since its inception. What makes you think attacking Iran wouldn't be about land or at least protecting the land it has already stolen? But all you have to do is glance through the PNAC report to know the Israel wants to be the hegemon in the Middle East.
The fact that maintaining that land, with such a vast geography between it and Israel, would be virtually impossible. Obviously their motive is something other than acquiring the land. What could it be?
If Israel attacked Iran, they wouldn't be looking for land, but if the British could hold on to New Zealand, then the Israelis could hold on to Iran.
If Israel were seeking land, they would look at an adjacent country with a much less developed military than Iran. That is common sense. Harkening back to the British Empire is a strawman, for a lot of reasons.
I don't suspect Israel really needs or wants all that desert bottom land. They just want the wealth. Same with the U.S. and the Latin American countries. But it's in the report, with signatures.
So it is your belief that their plan is to overtake the country and steal all its riches? Isnt most of that wealth oil in the ground, which would require permanent occupation?
Name one country that doesn't want to be it's regional or, a global hegemon. You're very much right that Israel has flagrantly stolen land that breaks international law (much like what Russia is currently doing in the Ukraine/post-soviet space). However, much like Putin, Israel is the best of a bad bunch. Granted, incessant western meddling throughout the 20th and 21st century (thus far) in the region at large has been arguably the singular cause to all of these problems right now but to say that the US and Israel seek to literally expand a formal empire in Iran is absurd, largely due to the impracticality of occupation, to say the least. No, Israel can and does work with other Middle Eastern countries (the Turkish, Saudis and Egyptians) and no one in Riyadh, Ankara or Cairo thinks Israel is the "regional hegemon" even if the Iranians weren't in the picture anymore. The problem here is that the Iranians are going to spur a nuclear arms race in the region. I'm all for Israel surrendering their nuclear weapons as well (if they admit their existence) but we all know that'll never happen. It's been rumoured that the Pakistani's are in cahoots with the Saudis over their nuclear weapons and might even have some pre-made nuclear weapons (launch systems and all) waiting in Pakistan. If Iran gets the bomb (providing Israel doesn't carry out a characteristic pre-emptive strike), the Saudis will get one within weeks while Turkey and Egypt will scramble for one as well. There are no international norms and conventions for these states having nuclear weapons like the "stability" of the bipolar world system throughout the Cold War and that is a terrifying prospect.
Obviously, you're not one of the most who "don't care," or you wouldn't have started this thread. For the past half-century, the policy toward Iran has been the same and we've not attacked. There's no reason to now, as long as they continue to be of no threat. If you want to talk about warmongers, start with our President who took part in the military overthrow of Gaddafi, the attempted attacked on Syria and the funding of the ouster of a duly elected Ukrainian President that led to the Crimea seceding and the deaths of thousand of human beings. That's where the war monger is - in the President who received the Peace Prize. Ironic, isn't it?
So you think Iran feels threatened by Israel's conquering nature huh. They quake in fear and threaten Israel only because Israel wants Iran's land? Is that what you are saying?? Because Iranians aren't saying it. So clarify if I have your thought processes wrong.
Do us a favor and spare us your phony outrage. Obama has said all the options are on the table to prevent Iran from getting a nuke. Guess he must apart of the US Likud party too, huh??
Oh for pity sake the Jews went back to their ancestral homeland. Jews have been living there for more than 3000 years. Had Europeans not treated Jews like ugly step children when they weren't actively trying to kill them, maybe the Jews wouldn't have seen the need to secure a homeland of their own. There is only one thing the Jews want out of Iran or any other Middle Eastern country at the moment and that is to be left the hell alone. They don't figure a nuclear armed Iran will do that and if you understand the version of Islam that the Iranian Shi'a follow you would have little trouble understanding their concerns and sympathizing with them. But it's easier for leftist noodniks to assume that religious crazies on the other side of the world really don't believe what their Holy Books and current interpretations of them say than to think that they are serious about their beliefs. So instead of interjecting anything useful the anti Israel crowd acts as if the Jews taking back there stuff is wrong whines about them wishing to not wake up one morning to a mushroom shaped cloud over head. By the way the thought that a few hundred thousand Palestinians will die into the bargain won't matter to the ayatollahs at all. After all they are mostly Sunni.
1) Their ancestral homeland stretches from the Red Sea to the Euphrates River. Or so they say. 2) Other people have been living there for 3000 years as well.
Costa Rica Couldn't agree with you less. Israel has no natural resources and it knows it cannot depend on the largess of the world indefinitely. The only thing they have is already-stolen water.
How did tiny little Great Britain control half the world? How did WE control Iran for as long as we did? The way to do it is to HIRE it done, using the revenue generated by that country to make a few people fabulously rich.
Neither does Kong Kong, Japan, or Abu Dhabi. They seem, in fact, to be quite prosperous without them. Take off those Jewphobic glasses and maybe you'll see a little more clearly.
