Christian Survival In Syria Depends On Assad

That's pretty awkward, I wonder what it was like for him to hear about or watch the attacks during his birthday.

 

I wouldn't trust the Turkish government in what it says too much. Anyway the only people who would be considered Greek in Turkey, would be the Greek Orthodox and there are about two thousand of them left in Istanbul out of hundreds of thousands before the pogroms of a half a century ago. Anyone else would be considered Turkish. As for religious tolerance, my grandson has a few school friends in Istanbul, and one of them is Greek. He told him not to speak Greek in the taxi...which should tell you something.

What I have read, and which I tend to believe is that there are tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of crypto Christians in Turkey.

 

Margot I know some Syrians, and six months before the protests started they were bragging about Syria and how developed it had become under Assad. They were Christians and probably wealthy, but our roofer who was a Muslim, also moved back to Syria with his family because he too said the country had become absolutely lovely.

From what I gathered, Assad in order not to hurt Russia, wouldn't allow the gas and oil pipes from Qatar to pass through Syria. Because of this, Erdogan felt he had the go ahead to grab what he can and formed a committee together with Qatar and Saudi Arabia and called it 'Friends of Syria'. He then began arousing the Turkoman majority in Homs. It was the first city taken over by the rebels, and they immediately gave notice to the sixty thousand Christians to either leave or be killed.

At first the Syrian moderates who wanted more rights in the government began fighting the Syrian army, but later things changed. Foreign jihadists began coming into Syria so the moderate insurgents began joining the Syrian army. The ones who are now called moderates, are really Al Nusra/Al Queda terrorists. The US trains and arms them to fight Assad either in Jordan or Turkey. They then take their American toys and join ISIS. It would be a joke, if it wasn't so tragic for the people in Syria and Iraq.

 

Saudi Arabia had no interest in a gas pipeline thru Syria.. NONE.. Why should they ? They have other access to gas markets and they already went thru hell with Syria when they destroyed TAPLINE.

Turkey has once again been overrun with refugees.. Don't you suppose that some of those Syrians objected to Assad and his failed promises for reform?

 

Margot the Syrians were fooled by the American NGO's the way the Ukrainians were. They really believed they were protesting for more rights when the real intent was to over throw Assad and put in someone who would comply with Washington's wishes. I have no doubt now that there was a provocation, which had forced Assad to shoot at the protesters.

Syria was my wake up call as to what our country was doing. Assad wasn't perfect, but he was tolerant and he was able to keep peace in the country. The terrorists we were supporting would have massacred them all, so why were we supporting them, and why are we supporting them now...unless we just like to see people killing one another.

At the beginning Turkey invited the refugees in because he wanted to establish a no fly zone, which later could be incorporated and made a part of Turkey. That was blocked. Anyway if you take into account that Turkey is quite wealthy, and its population is seventy five million, then one and a half million refugees shouldn't be much of a burden.

Compare that now with the migrants being shipped from Turkey to Greece. There are over a million migrants in a country with a population of ten and a half million. That's about one in ten, while in Turkey it's only about one in sixty five. The Turks complain a lot.

 

I am more concerned about the survival of innocent people than I am the survival of Christianity in Syria.

 

Obviously you consider Christian lives expendable. Are you a Muslim?

 

what has Russia done for the Christians of Syria?

 

How do you know what Russia has done, and what it has not done. Tell you what, since the Patriarch in Syria is close to the Russian Church, ask him? He would know.

 

Im asking you, since you're the one who keeps claiming, day after day, that Russia has done soo much for them

 

I don't consider any lives expendable. Their religion is of no difference to me.

 

I agree, that's why the plight of the Christians were never mentioned by me or anyone. I do look at the regimes though in that context, and the Alawites like Assad were always the most tolerant not only to the Christians, but to all the faiths.

 

You might want to reread the OP. Christians are mentioned more than once in it....

 

Uhhh, Ronstar, I'm getting a little worried about you?

 

The only country which could've protected Christians in the Middle East was the United States. The most powerful country. However they simply decided to throw all Middle Eastern Christians (the oldest Christians) under the bus. It all started with Iraq. If Syria falls, there would be genocide on a massive scale. After Syria Sunni radicals would simply move on to Lebanon.

I clearly remember the ex-French president Sarkozy telling the patriarch in charge of the Middle East to encourage all Christians to leave the Middle East. That was in 2010.

 

If you take into account the amount of years the war has been going on, and that it's the Christians who have been suffering the most from the jihadists, then don't you think it's time there was a thread about it? What are they lesser humans than others? You do know that three hundred Christians are being killed each day? If they were Buddhists, homosexuals or Jews, you would probably be up in arms.

 

It's a terrible thing for people to leave lands they lived in for thousands of years. When some Buddhist statues were destroyed in Afghanistan, people were in an uproar. But when over fifteen hundred year old monasteries, shrines and churches are destroyed in Syria, it's ignored by the press... and even by most Christians in the US. I guess they think Christianity didn't exist before the printing press.

When the Syrian Patriarch came to speak to congress about what was going on, McCain got up and walked out. He even posed with terrorists after they had massacred a Christian town. They want Assad to leave, but if he left the jihadists would kill all the Alawites, Christians, moderate Sunnis, and all the other minorities. What kind of a nation have we become? Who are these people in Washington?

 

They are not attacked because of some religious purge.
The Christian fraction picked a side in this war. And they are siding with Assad.
And we in the west do not care about how many of Assad's henchmen get massacred.
The end.

 

A disproportionate number of them are Zionist Jews while most of the others are Christian fundamentalists.

 

Assad promised reform and more rights 3 years before the protests.....

 

anti-Semitic nonsense

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except for France and the USA, the world has ignored the plight of Christians in Syria and Iraq.

especially Russia.

 

Not at all.

 

An Israeli think tank, The Institute for Advanced Strategic and Political Studies (IASPS), published "A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm" in 1996. It is a short paper - approximately 2800 words - that offered thoughts on Israeli and U.S. policies on national security and economics.

The paper's principal author was David Wurmser (then affiliated with IASPS).

http://www.dougfeith.com/docs/Clean_Break.pdf

Syria is on Israel's list for destabilization

Securing the Northern Border
Syria challenges Israel on Lebanese soil. An effective approach, and one with which American
can sympathize, would be if Israel seized the strategic initiative along its northern borders by
engaging Hizballah, Syria, and Iran, as the principal agents of aggression in Lebanon, including
by:
striking Syria’s drug-money and counterfeiting infrastructure in Lebanon, all of which
focuses on Razi Qanan.
paralleling Syria’s behavior by establishing the precedent that Syrian territory is not
immune to attacks emanating from Lebanon by Israeli proxy forces.
striking Syrian military targets in Lebanon, and should that prove insufficient, striking at
select targets in Syria proper.

 

all members of Congress are either Zionist Jews or fundamentalist Christians???

sorry bro, but that's nothing but bigotry

 

Here is what I said: "A disproportionate number of them are Zionist Jews while MOST of the others are Christian fundamentalists."