Iran to Inject Gas into IR8 on 1st Day of Implementing Final N. Deal

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  1. Regular Joe

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    I often see this big scary talk about this guy and that guy having nuclear capacity, and even missiles. So, Alpha, you know about this stuff. Let's say that Iran went right into producing a device that could be carried by a missile. Israel pretty much has (been given) the same deterrence that we have. How many missiles would Iran have to launch before a single one was able to break through that deterrence, and actually strike Israel? How does Iranian deterrence compare? Are they actually vulnerable to an Israeli missile attack?

     
  2. AboveAlpha

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    This Missile Talk is all PR!!! B.S!

    Iran built tens of thousands of centrifuges in order to enrich Uranium to weapons grade.

    They probably have enough weapons grade fuel for 1 or maybe 2 circa 1945 U.S. Gun Barrel Design Fission Bombs.

    These weapons weight THOUSANDS OF POUNDS!! TONS!!!

    Iran could never place one on a missile nor does Iran have the Tech. to make them smaller.

    Iran does not even have the Bomber Aircraft necessary to be able to deliver one to target....that is if it works at all.

    Iran could put one on a truck and try to drive it to target but U.S. Radiation Detection Capabilities exist at a very....very high level.

    We would know where they were moving it....HELL....we know where every single Iranaian Nuclear Facility exists....including several...."SECRET"...underground Iranian Nuclear Facilities as the U.S. has Ground and Ocean Penetrating Radars.

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  3. Regular Joe

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    You've said all that before, in other posts, but now to part 2 of my question:
    If Israel were to attack Iran with nuclear missiles, how capable is Iran of intercepting those missiles?

     
  4. jack4freedom

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    Israel has threatened to nuke all of Europe if their little kingdom is threatened.
     
  5. AboveAlpha

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    Israel would never use Missiles....they would use F-15's to carry Nuclear Bombs to target.

    A Missile Launch that is not announced could accidentally start WWIII.

    Even still...Iran would have ZERO ability to stop either the F-15's or any Nuclear Short Range Israeli Balistic Missiles.

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  6. AboveAlpha

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    The reality is...Netty no matter what angry rhetoric is being said.....DOES WHAT WE TELL HIM TO DO!!!

    When he doesn't.....we make certain to remind him and Israel that they are getting over $20 Billion a year from the U.S.

    Israel needs the U.S. as an ally....and they would never put that at risk.

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  7. Regular Joe

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    I guess some people don't understand that arrangement. We spend that money ONLY because it's cheaper than supporting any other military asset in the region of equal military value/capability. Not Yet Yahoo can bluster all he wants, but that's the fact of that matter.
     
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    Really the people making up this current government issued that joint statement? Gosh! You'd think it would have hit the news. The thing about Iran is that it's the people currently in charge of things.
     
  9. AboveAlpha

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    Leaders of nations B!#CH and MOAN all the time.

    But if you read between the lines it is usually to gain additional U.S. Aid or in Israel's case...justify building more Jewish Settlements in disputed Territories.

    Still....it's tough to blame the Israeli's because if the U.S. was attacked like Israel has been....not only would we annex those attack areas....we would not let anyone on the attacking side LIVE.

    I don't think any member here would think the U.S. would allow Missile Launches out of a small area in the U.S. like Gaza.

    We would obliterate the area....then ask questions later.

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  10. atabitaraf

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    Most respectfully my country needs nuclear energy for its medical and scientific research. Nuclear energy is used for producing drinkable water for the poor regions of the country in which they do not have enough, making some medicines, purification mechanism of anti-microbe processes in food industry, etc.
    You may have the right to think this way due to the more active media in the western countries to pretend that you must have an enemy outside of the borders not to think about the inner enemy which is trying to produce and sell the most dangerous weapons worldwide + forgetting the fact that you and the UK are supporting the largest fields of producing drugs, in all forms in our eastern nations.
    Yes, the truth is harshly bitter brothers and sisters.
    Please do not judge, just please help prevent even a bit of these cruel actions that are being committed against human being.
    Iran has never invaded any nation in his contemporary history. Just she did defense agaist Iraq, Taliban, and some other terrorist governments.
    By all means we are still ready to make a peaceful world with you if you respect our right and if you try to stop cruel actions.
    What will the history tell about you?
    You cannot ever prevent our progress, you can just delay it somehow due to the fact that we still respect the talks and our commitment until your govts start
     
  11. AboveAlpha

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    As long as Iran allows the UN Inspectors of the IAEA back into Iran....abide by the terms of the NPT...and admit which Iran already has...and close up secret underground nuclear facilities that the U.S. Ground Penetrating Radar found.....and not enrich Uranium past Reactor Grade.....things will be fine.

    BUT....if Iran or some of the Old Guard Islamic Revolutionary Leaders do something as STUPID as announce Iran had developed Nuclear Weapons.....the United States would have no choice but to Invade and the U.S. Military would go in BIG.

    It would make the Invasion of Iraq look like a few fireworks going off.

    I hope that the over 70% of Iranian's who are below 30 years of age realise it is time for them to take control and have a Democratic Government....where there is FREEDOM OF RELIGION....but not a Theocracy.

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  12. atabitaraf

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    Dear friend you want to quarrel? I do not. No one pays us, do they? So why should we?
    Governments differ, politicians benefit, so why should we quarrel?
    If only you could agree with our initial rights enriching for medical and scientific research purposes, then I’ll talk.

    (By the way, I friendly persuade you to take a look at every bit of invasion any state has ever made against us after the revolution and see our reaction. Since I'm on a friendly talk I do not like to go further. + We have our democracy & our different ideas that is discussed inside. We do not have a free gay and free drug dealers democracy, was it what you want to hear?)
     
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    Yeah, and we'll be reading the same thing two years from now. According to Israel Iran is always on the verge of having a nuclear capability, and has been for 20+ years. Perhaps if Iran did the incessant whining from Israel would cease.

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    Really? So pray tell why North Korea, which has threatened just about everyone with nuclear annihilation-including the USA-has been left uninvaded? I know the answer; let's see if you do...
     
  14. Dutch

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    Iran needs no nuclear energy, Iran needs to keep its nuke bomb options open.

    Iran is an energy superpower.[3] Iran is in a constant battle to use its energy resources more effectively in the face of subsidization and the need for technological advances in energy exploration and production. Energy wastage in Iran amounts to six or seven billion dollars (2008). The energy consumption in the country is extraordinarily higher than international standards. Iran recycles 28 percent of its used oil and gas whereas the figure for certain countries stands at 60 percent.[4] Iran paid $84 billion in subsidies for oil, gas and electricity in 2008.[5] Iran is one of the most energy-intensive countries of the world, with per capita energy consumption 15 times that of Japan and 10 times that of European Union. Also due to huge energy subsidies, Iran is one of the most energy inefficient countries of the world, with the energy intensity three times higher than global average and 2.5 times the middle eastern average.[6] Half of the country’s energy is wasted in domestic sector, 3.4 of which is wasted through the vehicles moving with single person and 2/3 parts o........

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_in_Iran
     
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    The United States is the 2nd largest energy consumer in terms of total use in 2010.[1] The U.S. ranks seventh in energy consumption per-capita after Canada and a number of small nations.[2][3] Nuclear power supplied 8.4% and renewable energy supplied 8%,[4] which was mainly from hydroelectric dams and biomass but also included other renewable sources such as wind power, geothermal and solar energy.[5] Energy consumption has increased at a faster rate than domestic energy production over the last fifty years in the U.S. (when they were roughly equal). This difference is now largely met through imports.[6]

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_in_the_United_States

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_power_in_the_United_States

    Does the United States need nuclear energy?
     
  16. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes.

    What's more economical and environmentally sound - produce more energy or cut the waste?
     
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    I agree. Then what's alright for the goose ought to be right for the gander - unless of course one is a complete hypocrite.
     
  18. AboveAlpha

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    This has nothing to do with quarreling.

    Iran signed the NPT.

    It must abide by the rules of the NPT as Iran signed the NPT in order to purchase Nuclear Reactors.

    Iran cannot enrich Uranium to Weaons Grade Levels nor can Iran create secret underground Nuclear Facilities like it did and was caught.

    All Iranian Nuclear Sites must have U.N. IAEA Inspections and Digital Video Camera's put up for constant monitoring.

    And of course Iran cannot develop Nuclear Weapons.

    Iran abides by the NPT and there will be no isssues.

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    1-I respectfully disagree.

    3-Do I think a ground war with soldiers from Iran is likely? No. It is quite content to have Hezbollah and Hamas do all its dirty work and throw in some units of its Revolutionary Guard but for the most part, its weapon of choice is terrorists with bombs strapped on them and please don't tell me it doesn't have the capacity to target missiles with nuke and chemical weapons at Israel.
     
  20. AboveAlpha

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    Iran does not have even close the ability to target anyone with Nukes...period!

    Iran could build one or two circa 1945 U.S. Gun Barrel Design Fission Bombs....but they weight multiple tons thus Iran has no way to deliver them.

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