Nonexistent Rape Culture

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  1. JeffYoung

    JeffYoung New Member

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    http://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesth...r-facebook-joke-about-slut-shaming#.adK62XNQl

    Why is it OK for feminazis to blame all men for something that doesn't even exist? Generalization of blacks is racism, generalization of homosexuals is religious bigotry. Generalization of white males is for some reason absolutely acceptable.
    Being a man for all my life I would never understand what women feel but I am assured most men are as loving and caring as women are. Nobody promotes rape culture, nobody has ever witnessed it. All rapes committed are wrongdoings of certain citizens not men as a social group.
     
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    You must be new here.

    This is how the modern Western world works now. You're guilty of living while being white, male and heterosexual. This is a serious offense.
     
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    HonestJoe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well first, nobody said anything about white males so that distinction is entirely inside your head. Nothing in the quotes from this lady accused all men (or even exclusively men) of anything either, she specifically refers to "people" or "men and women" acting or speaking in specific ways.

    As for nobody promoting "rape culture", I've heard first hand young men and women dismiss and belittle sexual harassment and rape and support the idea that the way a girl (never a boy) dresses automatically means she wants to have sex, significantly, even if she says she doesn't. I definitely happens.

    There is certainly elements of misandry in relation to this issue but I see none of that here and your over-defensiveness about it does more harm than good.
     
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    feminazis? LOL. I can't take this guy seriously. A "rape culture" is a concept, not an actual state of being, which describes social conditioning. While it was coined by feminists, it has made its way into the common lexicon. The far right seems to be affected by the term more than anyone else and has been under attack by the most ignorant of people with the GOP politicians leading the charge. (See Below)
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    Nobody said anything about white males but this is usually implied. Being a part of leftist agenda feminists tend to keep away from colored men, addressing the problems of white males only. Don't forget that America was built by white males, who are therefore guilty for the way it is now.
    Read the quote attached to the OP. She in earnest assumes it is hard for a male to pass by a half-naked drunk woman because the first thing that will come to his mind is rape. It is both false and overgeneralized.
     
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    Rape culture is an imaginary concept that has nothing to do with reality. It actually states all men, thanks to their nature and ingrained social norms, are inclined to rape.
    You don't believe me. How about Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network? This guys, who are much more credible than any of the feminist groups, deal with sexual violence on daily basis and here's what they say:

     
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    I was date-raped one time.

    I was drunk and planned to crash at my brother's (where I was drinking) I then shot out a drunk text to all the single girl prospects in my phone. One of the girls I text, lived about 15 minutes away. I had had a blind date with her the previous night, and she was a hefty one. I wasn't interested.....while sober..... but while drunk, I thought, why not.

    She got up, came and got me to take me home. On the way home, I had to get her to stop to throw up, 2 seperate times..... but when we got home, that didn't stop her from my drunken advances.



    the next day, while sobered up.... I knew I had screwed up, but needed her to get me back to my truck. A walk of shame has no comparison to the drive of shame.

    Either way.... I find it perplexing that when I get trashed, and end up porking a porker.... it's dismissed as a bad decision and I should not drink so much next time...


    but dare to say to a girl who bangs a bad drunken decision under the same circumstance.... it's date rape, even if she initiates. And if you dare to suggest that she reduce her alcohol intake if she sleeps with guys she's not interested in while sober, you are accused of blaming the victim
     
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    On the contrary it serves as a great example of the kind of people young women need to avoid so they can stay safe.
     
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    HonestJoe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No it isn't. Your lying isn't helping your case (what little there is to it).
     
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    ssure it is.... if a girl gets drunk, takes home a guy she regrets in the morning.... and claims daterape when she sobers up and realizes she messed up... it's daterape.
     
  11. JeffYoung

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    True story. Portraying all men as rapists won't solve the problem, just the opposite. First, it is not about all men. It is about a certain group of citizens who find forcing women acceptable. Second, the number of rapists in this country is limited and it is not 50% of the overall population.
    Feminists do more harm than good by addressing nonexistent roots of existing problems and diminishing the importance of sexual violence related problems.
     
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    it's also the ever increasing demand to label any sex rape....

    now all of a sudden, if a girl gets drunk and you hook up with her at a bar one night.... everything is fine...... unless you're ugly and she regrets her poor decision or she's upset that she cheated on her b/f, or her b/f finds out she had a one night stand....


    Now, the guy is a rapist because she didn't want to be thought of as a slut.
     
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    Except that what usually happens is the girl says no but the guy presses on anyway, and afterward she's afraid to tell anyone because she'll be portrayed as a slut who's just trying to cover up a bad decision.
     
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    and that is date-rape.


    that's issue #2. that isn't how it always happens. Girl gets caught cheating by her boyfriend, or she feels guilty, or that 10 you took home at 2am is more like a 2 at 10am.

    I've made drunken mistakes before.... we all have. But if my situation above happened to a girl.... people would be calling the guy a rapist, vs when it happens to me, I'm called a drunk.
     
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    Uh...isnt' she "portraying herself as a slut" just by bringing the case? I mean, she's starting off by admitting she went out with a guy and got blind drunk, yes?

    You all seem to be forgetting that while she can ACCUSE someone of rape on her say so, it won't do as PROOF in a Court of Law. Or are you asserting that the basic protection against a "he said, she said" situation has been repealed here?

    I think this is a lot of RW agitprop, like most sexual harassment bs. SH cases are a pure nightmare for most lawyers as they can't PROVE what is often pretty obviously an egregious incidence even enough to establish a prima facie case
     

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