Why do you think Americans are fat?

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  1. perdidochas

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    Processed and GMO do not mean anything that are close to the same. You can have unprocessed GMO, and processed foods without GMO. That said, most processed foods are GMO.

    The problem is that we are evolutionarily wired to like high calorie foods. Our bodies tell us to eat the high calories instinctively--that is why most high calorie foods taste good to us. Until the last 40 years, we haven't really been able to afford to eat as much high calorie foods as we can now. Now, regardless of what other posters say, high calorie junk foods are cheaper than most healthy foods. The combination of those two is why we have so much obesity. It doesn't help that we don't exercise enough.
     
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    processed foods sweetened with High Fructose corn syrup, made from genetically modified corn. Genetically modified not to be more nutritious, but to be pesticide or drought resistant.

    The marketing of sweet , fatty foods to young children , just a few decades ago, diabetes among teenagers was unheard of. Diabetes type 2 was called "Adult Onset Diabetes" . Now you have children as young as 12 - 13 getting diabetes and getting obese.

    Look at the foods at supermarkets, Sugar added Cereals, sugar added snacks, sodas are the Worst of the worst.
    Americans have forgotten what real food is. Instead of just drinking water or even tea, we reach for Sugary sodas, or Coffee with tons of sugar. I say Sugar is a major killer here.

    The foods at fast food joints and supermarkets are literally engineered by Food Scientists to get people coming back for more and more. You wonder why once u pop Pringles you can't stop? Same goes for most types of Corn or Potato chips.

    Not just the portion size, not just the lack of exercise, also the Types of Foods being eaten. Unhealthy = unattractive. Stop eating the crap, get out and move more, drink water and tea without sugars.
    Maybe the IQ of Americans might even increase as a result
     
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    I've stuck to a more traditional Asian diet. And eating more fruits and vegetables. Haven't touch a soda in 10 months now. Drinking only Tea and Water.

    No more foods from a box full of unidentifiable ingredients. I cook my own food,
    Stir Fried Asparagus with either Shrimp or Fish.
    Spinach in olive oil with Chopped Garlic.
    Baked or Pan Fried Salmon
    Mung Bean Sprout Wraps, with pork bits, scallions and ginger shreds

    I'm 38 this year, when people look at me they think I'm in my 20's , better eating = healthier life.
     
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    you may be fatty on the inside, but skinny on the outside. I'd check your blood sugar level after an 8 hour fasting. If its above 180 mg/deciliter your doctor might say you're already diabetic.
     
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    Back when Mayor Bloomberg tried to ban super sized Sodas I actually would have supported that. Yet the sugar addicted populace decided to strike that down. I'm seriously worried for my young nieces and nephews, not only for the suggestive marketing for unhealthy foods to them, but also the fact that Fast food companies and Coca Cola now has contracts to provide Lunches to School Cafeterias nationwide.
    That should be a F^cking Outrage.
    Yet most Americans are too hopped up on sugars to even think straight to protest against such an important issue. Childhood Obesity and Diabetes is on the rise.

    Watch the documentaries about Sugar, and Fast food industry. I've learned so much from them.
     
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    yes, most Americans don't understand that excess sugar is causing Food Addiction. Obesity and diabetes will literally drive down the IQ of the children. If you want your kids to do well in school, start with proper nutrition and plenty exercise.
     
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    Food quality is likely a factor, yes. Another is just having all this tempting junk food available on the cheap, and yet another is likely the prevalence of traveling by car. I think people in most other nations do a lot more walking than Americans do on average. All of these things add up.
     
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    blaming obesity on genetics does not help the obese to lose weight. The only way to get healthy is stop eating processed foods. Cook your own food, include much more vegetables and fruits in the diet. it should be like 50% veg/fruits, 25% Grain and maybe 25% meats/dairy. The gov't food pyramid is not gear towards your health, it was geared towards the Agricultural Industry. They produce more cows, and corn, so they naturally want you to eat more meat, and cereal, milk and cheese.,
     
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    Especially at Walmart. Obese and Diabetic people rolling around on mobility chairs. Blehhh.......
     
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    not moving will bring you to an early grave. The blood in your body has been evolved to move, especially after a meal. The sugars in the blood needs to get to certain organs instead of staying stagnant.
     
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    I had a cousin that recently visited from China, when he saw a Morbidly obese woman in public, he remarked that she had the thighs of an Elephant, and the Rear end of a Rhino. There is just something terribly wrong with that woman
     
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    And unfortunately, for the lonely, depressed, home-bound, breaking up w/a lover, etc, food is their comfort.....

    Quite awhile ago - can't remember what show it was, m/b Dr. Phil, the guest was a woman weighing over 500#....Oh. My. Gawd....and she had a fiance, a scrawny little dude......
     
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    Can't agree w/that. A person just takes control of their food intake and know what they're eating.....and what they should not eat.

    If a person works 2 jobs, they'd be active enuf. On my last job, my office was upstairs and climbing stairs is good exercise, which I did many times during the day........

    I have a friend who works in a huge department store. If Vicki isn't working behind the counter, she's out on the floor, keeping an eye out for shoplifters and assisting customers looking for a particular item. Was there talking to her the other day and she said she has an odometer attached to her leg. She covers b/t 35-40 miles a DAY! No wonder she doesn't have a weight problem...
     
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    Bingo! Bad stuff.......
     
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    Bad food. Ever been to an American supermarket? There is not much that is fresh.

    Also, American government heavily subsidizes wheat and meat, so processing companies look for any way they can use the cheap ingredients to make some type of food. Americans also like buying things in bulk from big stores. Quantity over quality.
     
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    My 3 kids went to public school, but grew up slender and agile b/c I wouldn't let them turn into roly poly little muffins. The tv was turned off and out the door they went.....and they were in school sports. And the 3 had to learn how to swim. That was mandatory and one of the best exercises there is.... all depends upon the parents how the kids turn out.
     
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    Bull (*)(*)(*)(*), bull (*)(*)(*)(*), bull (*)(*)(*)(*)ing ****** (*)(*)(*)(*).

    ALL disease is DISEASE. Being obese may contribute to certain things, and/or be CAUSED by those things, BUT, many, MANY people, in fact quite generally the MAJORITY of obese people do NOT get heart disease OR diabetes OR all the other terrible things it is supposed to CAUSE. Conversely, many, many thin and "healthy" people die from these diseases every day.

    Ulcers, supposedly caused by STRESS, everybody sitting around in white robes chanting. No effect WHATSOEVER, purely unscientic BS, based on an improper understanding of stomach acid. Finally came out that ulcers are caused by a bacteria.

    Remember 200 years ago the best cure for everything was to rip a great hole in an artery and notice how pretty the copious amounts of "bad" blood were as they spiraled down your arm. You were then supposed to write a thank you note to your doctor, telling him how much better you felt. If you survived.

    We are fat or not because of genetics, we get the diseases, in the end, for the same reason.

    Doctors want to go on charging us thousands so they can tell us we should have eaten better instead of doing the job they are supposed to, which is to CURE disease, not claim to be preventing it, which cannot really be done, but also can't be quantified and checked on either

    We are unhealthy because our most influential "advisers" in that field are a rich talk show host who never met a chicken she didn't like, an ersatz "Doctor" of psychology who probably can't practice in the majority of states and a Turkish snake oil salesman who is on the verge of being kicked off the medical boards. Americans. Are. Idiots.
     
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    I can foresee with near certainty the day when unhealthy food is regulated like tobacco. It should be up to the individual to decide what to put in their bodies, the corporations merely fill demand. I just went down the shop and got some bubblegum, a milkshake, and a kebab. I'm not an overweight guy, I know the consequences of my actions.
     
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    And Corn, don't forget the huge corn fields in American mid west. All heavily subsidized by Gov't. High Fructose Corn syrup has replaced Cane sugar in almost everything, Sodas , Ketchup, pretty much any kind of food in a box has HFCS

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    I agree that controlling weight is important, but there are other aspects of health. You can pretty much tell if a person is healthy or not just by being in their presence. Do they have good skin? Do they have lines under their eyes etc...
     
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    There is already a public backlash against the Food industry, especially the fast foods. Fast food companies and Coca Cola now are getting contracts to supply the food to School Cafeterias. That is very disturbing to me.
    Teenage Obesity and Diabetes is already at alarming rates.
     
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    Because to rely on too many carbs. and meds for every mood swing. Making us numb physically and mentally.
     
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    Yup! You know your stuff about food, dude! Everything here is true. I can't remember the last time I had refined sugar - been yrs. If I have to sweeten anything, I use honey - pure, natural honey. I'm surprised at the people who didn't know that if there's an expiration date on honey, it's not the real thing. Real honey never goes bad.

    Monsanto who makes the GMO garbage is a big money maker and it's killing people and the people don't know it. Monsanto has now invented an apple which will never go bad. Of course it won't b/c it's not a real food. REAL food (except for honey) will eventually rot. If you put a tub of margarine outside, the bug won't eat it b/c it's not food like butter. Margarine has a certain type of PLASTIC in it......ugh!

    Sodas is one of the worst things a person can drink. Here's a fact for all of you. Yrs ago a friend's husband worked for Reynolds Aluminum. One day he told me that when they make all the cans for the sodas, they have to put a special liner in the Coca Cola cans or the Coke will eat the can up. When Jack told me that, I made sure my kids never drank Coke. Addictive ingredients are put in that stuff to make you crave it and buy some more. One time yrs ago I was addicted to Pepsi. I had a helluva time getting off that crap - but did it and never touched it again.....
     
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    corporations do NOT only fill demand, any more than drug pushers only fill demand. their job is to enhance and monetize demand. they are constantly inventing new products... and this is not to meet demand, it is to increase sales. there was a time when coke had cocaine in it.... that would tend to increase customer loyalty wouldn't it. fast and snack food is made as addictive as legally possible... that is a simple fact.... and not so much an accident as an inevitability.

    as to tobacco, food, and regulation
    tobacco mfg are required to label their product and disclose the risk
    we are starting to improve food labeling...
    so far trans fats
    which informs customers
    but sugar has largely escaped labeling that would truly inform or warn buyers

    yes people should have a choice
    but as with tobacco, it should be an informed choice

    imo
     

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