Is it considered bad for straight people to go to gay bars?

Anyone who has ever been to The 'Kok knows that the best bars are the Kathoey bars. Same holds true in Angeles City and Manila. But the best - you haven't partied until you spend a while in Bangkok.

 

I think he has had a bit too much of "the lord" in his life. That bible garbage will twist you all backwards and upside down and you stop being able to tell the difference between reality and goat herder fantasy.

 

You missed something. Greenwich Village has some of the best music and best drink deals in America. A lot of amazing groups started in NYC dives. Spin Doctors. October Project. Lou Reed and the Velvet Underground. Blood, Sweat & Tears. The Mamas & the Papas. Lovin' Spoonful. The Ramones. Simon & Garfunkel. I could probably name 100 more. If you get a chance to get back to NYC for a few weeks, spend some time in the bar band scene. Just order a copy of the Village Voice and map out a week or two of absolute party insanity.

 

This is my experience in a gay bar.

Many years ago, in my work place, the guys decided to play a joke with me. They started to invite me to a nightclub that weekend.

They told me that this disco was full of Italian girls, who are fun and easy going. I bought their story. We had the agreement to be there around 10 pm. They gave me the address.

I was there at 10:15pm after having hard time finding parking outside. I paid the fee, a seal was put in my right hand, and there I went inside. It wasn't with many people yet. Here and there some couples, and some groups of fellas.

I stood close to the door waiting for my friends, who never showed up.

It was 11:00pm and the music became louder and the place started to get full. I was waiting and looking for the "Italian girls". I found no girls but I started to notice weird things. Dudes and gals started to dance alone. To me this was weird. I also saw guys dancing with other guys, girls dancing with other girls, and sporadic couples of guys dancing with girls.

At 11:30 I found out that I had been tricked by my co-workers.

Suddenly, I saw a sissy dude who got into the disco kissing to everybody. This disco had a fat woman walking around selling small shot glasses with cocktails for a dollar. This guy, walking like a woman hugged her, kissed her, and even spanked her butt while laughing like a girl. The fat woman laughed as well. I followed with my eyes the guy, and saw that he started to dance alone and later he started to dance with the most prettier girls, whom I noticed were lesbians.

I said to myself,

"Hell, why not?"

I asked for a drink, and another drink, and with the needed valor I went straight to the fat woman, I walked like a sissy, I laughed and spanked her butt. She laughed, and I kissed around her neck, I robbed her boobs, and she laughed and laughed while I was faking to be gay.

I said to myself.

"My friends will be jealous of me on Monday."

I approached the dancing area, and faking to be a sissy I started to dance alone first, and later I pulled one beautiful lesbian and start dancing with her, touching her and laughing like a woman. She just danced with me and allowed me to touch her anywhere because she thought I was gay.

"This is the opportunity of my life" I said to myself.

Between the dancing I asker her to have a picture with me. She agreed with it.

In those years, there weren't cell phones but a small camera that people used to carry to places. So, with the help of others, I had taken pictures with pretty girls, very young girls, hugging them, kissing them, and believe me, a gay guy dancing with lesbians can do almost everything...but getting naked and having sex with them in the middle of the dancing area.

Monday morning, I saw my co-workers with their mischievous smiles. I said nothing.

At lunch time they asked me about the disco.

Very humble I told them that it was OK.

They can't hold it anymore and started laughing of me.

Here is when I took off the camera from my packet and I showed them the pictures of mine with the girls.

They changed their faces. For them such was not possible, but the logo of the disco was in the background.

Of course I kept the secret for a while, but weeks later I told them what happened. They laughed like crazy.

They knew that I'm a mothers f*cker, but this was too much.

Well, I have never tried doing the same again, but if you have the chance to do what I did in a gay disco, I can guarantee you that you will have a great time with beautiful young lesbians. Just practice talking and laughing like a sissy, but don't take it seriously... just fake... don't make it your way of life...

 

That actually happened to me and a buddy of mine back in the late 60's in Bangkok. We sat down at the bar and ordered a beer before we realized what kind of bar it was. We drank our beer and left with no problems. We were bar hopping and never had been in that bar before, but I will never forget its name. The Sea Hag.

 

Strange how katoy has the same meaning in the Philippines, Thailand and Laos. In Thailand they even have Miss Katoy contests.

 

you guys are more than welcome. we'll make room for you, the bartender will accept the tips, and the owner will take a profit. That's what happens when we go into straight bars. Just don't act all offended and shocked if someone shows a little interest. Just take it all in stride, and don't act like an ass and we will all have a good time.

 

Probably depends on the bar. A gay hangout and a Cub-Bear BDSM bar might have different standards as to whom is or is not welcome.

 

I wonder if Thai, Laotian, and Tagalog basically at some point were the same language?

 

I went into a gay bar with this girl i was seeing at the time. She really wanted to go so i just went with it. We got wasted, made out and wasnt long before i took her to her place.

Id go again if the girl was hot enough. In truth id probably do a lot of stupid things if shes hot enough....

 

I back off out of a sense of common courtesy.

I can understand some things about harassment, but it's wrong to run a scam, when it's a scam.

 

Is it bad for a gay person to go into a straight bar?

 

I had a co-worker who was often reported being at Homosexual bars and that was always his excuse .HE LIKED THE MUSIC ? ! LMAO

 

While I don't agree with homosexuality for religious reasons, I have no issue with gay people. I have been known to frequent gay bars. If, as a woman, one wants to mingle with people and engage in stimulating conversation, or just just sit there listening to music while sipping on some club soda, without being harassed by those with an alcohol induced overblown sense of testosterone, then the gay bar is for you.
So no, it isn't bad. Quite the opposite.

 

I"ve done it before, at a mixed gay and lesbian night, tried hitting on a couple of chicks, they looked bemused

 

Thai and Lao I know and can speak each fairly well. I have served in both countries, 6 years in Thailand and 2 in Laos. I never made it to the Phillipines. It seems to me Thai, Lao and Khmer or Cambodian are real close while Vietnamese is closer to Chinese. I am talking about the tones used and how certain words mean the same or close to the same in all the languages there.

I suppose the bottom line to your question is that I do not have the faintest idea.

 

... but you will admit that sexual promiscuity does hurt little kids, right...?

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So like the Christians,... you, too, believe in Truth, and you avoid lies and scams as wrong and dangerous...?

 

Heck yeah I do. I think pedophiles should be executed. I just don't think I need a book written by some goat herders 2,500 years ago to tell me right from wrong. I have an internal moral compass. Don't need Moses or Paul of Tarsus to send me down the road of common sense and dignity.

 

In my experience, most Gay's Straightdar is much more accurate than most Straight's Gaydar.

 

Short answer: No, it's not bad for a straight person to enter a gay bar.

Long answer: I'll start by addressing this as a question of social etiquette. It's potentially bad for gay people if straight people invade gay bars. There are a lot more of you than there are of us. There comes a point where a gay bar is not really a gay bar anymore if there's a large number of straight people in it on a frequent basis. At best, we used to call that a 'mixed' crowd.

It's one thing if you're a straight person in a gay bar as the guest of someone gay. Quite another if a group of straight people show up at a gay bar uninvited because they think it's "trendy", or they want to show how "progressive" they are, or if they're treating it as a spectacle to observe, like going to the zoo.

From another perspective: Is it really so bad if a straight person goes into a gay bar as a 'learning experience'? Maybe they'll learn something about gay people who frequent gay bars. The mistake would be to think that this experience will teach them any sort of universal truth about gay people. Hint: Most of us don't hang out in gay bars - especially if we're over 40.

Does any of that mean straight people should be banned from gay bars? I would say 'no'.

 

As a straight guy, who has quite a few gay friends I have spent a lot of time in Gay bars. Didnt bother me, or anyone else there one bit. On the occasions that some guy would hit on me, I would simply explain that I was only here with friends and that I was straight. As soon as I said that, we would have a laugh, bro hug, and usually, they pay for my drink. Then he would go his way and I would go back to hanging with my friends.

 

as long as you are comfortable with people of the same gender hitting on you, you can always say no, but just remember you are in a gay bar

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That would e OK of you oppose any sexual promiscuity reaching the ears or eyes of kids.
Today, they don't have parents, especially fathers at all, to tell them it is a bad thing.
God is someone they can see religious people acknowledge, and God says get married before sex.

 

So how about prison,...
Is it OK to hang with gay guys there...?

DO you ever ask Gays about the "Tops," the ones' who can start bullying people who they are'nt even sure is a Gays??

 

Well, considering that I dont do anything that would put me in prison, thats not somethign I need concern myself with. But honestly, I dont see why its a problem to hang out with gay people ANYWHERE.

I dont understand this correlation that you seem to be drawing that its only okay to hang out with gay people sometimes. Why do we ewven have to have the qualifier of gay in that? Why cant it just be, I simply hang out with my friends where ever and whenever I want, and some of them even happen to be gay. Why does it have to be any more complicated than that?

And you deal with a bully the same way as anyone else. A bully is still a bully. Truth be tols, I have encounterd a lot more "straight" bullies than gay ones.