Obamacare Gap Traps Millions With Coverage Who Can’t Afford Care

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  1. RP12

    RP12 Well-Known Member

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    Perhaps if you are willing to add a VAT or similar. Of course that would impact the poor unfairly so you would be look at even more subsides while the middle class would get hit even harder. But i guess that is your goal.
     
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    Not hardly! You didn't challenge the facts. Using the "Right" excuse, proves you do not have the capability to engage.
     
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    Its a long article. What "facts" would you like me to engage in? Did you bothering reading far into it? It documented some Rural hospitals that were doing fine.. ONE person i believe implied increasing medicaid would help. That is called an opinion.
     
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    All is needed is to understand that all developed countries have Universal care, and I haven't seen them getting rid of it. If the subsidies were killing their middle class, they wouldn't have universal care. So no, my goal is not to hit hard the middle class. My goal is to use what works, that others already know works. Doing otherwise, would hurt the middle class. Which is apparently your goal, based on the failed private system you still fantasize about.
     
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    I could care less if you engage anything. You asked me to link the proof about the 283 hospitals potentially closing. I already did that. Fifth paragraph of the link seeing that you go to the trouble to question my information, yet are too lazy to hunt for it; http://www.modernhealthcare.com/article/20150516/MAGAZINE/305169959 Are you here to debate, or just rant and attack others?
     
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    More debate failure.. Why do you stoop to such crap?

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    Did you not understand my post? What in that article? Its a long article... Did you not also notice in that article the success stories or did you not read past the headline?

    Give me something to debate and i will. Your habit of linking a long article that you havent read and then running around doing nothing but spamming it doenst help debate anything.. Anyone can google and look for a favorable headline!

    For example if you bothered to read past the paragraph you are so fond of you would have read..

    "His view is not universally shared. Experts say some rural facilities are not providing high-quality care and that rural communities would be better served by coordinating care with larger regional facilities and providing targeted outpatient and emergency care through innovative approaches."
     
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    Deckel Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They should have never had the opportunity to opt out in a manner that denies their citizens access to healthcare. The Gap, however, has nothing to do with that. It was there from the beginning. The democrats just wanted to drive up the number of suburban above median wage individuals getting subsidies and created this gap knowing then that these people would not have been eligible.
     
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    Loller. The article talks about how poorly they've been performing since Obsmacare and your socialist piece of (*)(*)(*)(*) system was implemented.
    Our hospital system was doing just fine before that. Providing quality healthcare to 90% of the population.
     
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    Lol! With or without ACA, hospitals were closing before it was ever a law. The reason ACA was put in place was to prevent this from happening anymore. But seeing that the Governors of states who ignore those benefits, will ultimately see those hospitals close, only points to their ignorance and yours. The reason these hospitals might close "is because of the system" we already had in place before ACA. The perfect example of this is with GA; http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/georgias-deal-tighten-er-access
     
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    I'm glad somebody is talking about this. I too fall in this gap, I make too much to qualify for any gov't subsidy but make too little to pay $300/month to cover myself. On top of the fact that UHone has been essentially stealing money from me. :alcoholic:
     
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    I'm wondering what you're not telling us.

    Frankly, $300 a month for two people with only $1000 deductible and $85 co pays is so cheap that I have to ask if you are comparing employer provided health insurance with individually paid health insurance.

    That rate is unbelievably cheap, and, in my experience as a self employed person, was not normally available to inviduals at all.

    I could not get my wife insured at any price before the ACA, but after it was passed, we were able to insure us both.

    I have the same issues with the high deductibles and co pays that you do.

    But I find it ironic that this has been an issue that conservatives rant and rave about, when it was something they were all advocating not so long ago!(George W Bush called it the "ownership society)
     

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