Petition to White House for counter-ISIS Strategy

Then stop complaining and offer something constructive.

And turnabout is very rude.

 

I'm thinking suggesting the government develop a comprehensive strategy is a good first step. What do you think?

 

I'd like to see that too.

But keep one thing in mind, just because we average ordinary citizens that have no access to the glorious White House can't see it, doesn't mean that they're not doing this behind the scenes and are keeping it secret.

 

I'd argue that the drug cartels in Mexico are a bigger threat to the US than ISIS

 

Just curious
Do you think that such comprehesive strategies are being proposed but rejected?
Or maybe it is an idea that has never occured to the wh?
Or maybe someone has heard one of the plethora of prez candidates propose such a plan?

Would such a plan simultaneously resolve syria, iran, Israel, palestine, hammas, the kurd, shia and sunni issues... And of course destroy isis? That would be the comprehensive plan you have in mind?

 

I'd also like to point out that between the nations of the area who are fighting against ISIS, which includes Iraq, Iran, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and more, the military combatants fighting ISIS are over 5 million, while the number of military fighters for ISIS is estimated to be around 30,000.. also note that ISIS does not have a navy or an air force

Yes they have members in other areas, but they are not all necessarily military units, they are an ideology. As for there being people of this ideology in the US, it is an inevitable thing, but they are not however a military threat to the US directly. As I stated before the drug cartels in Mexico are a bigger threat to American lives than ISIS themselves

 

Iraq is not fighting ISIS. They threw down their arms and ran away.

 

it is true that many Iraqis are not willing to fight for the government we established there, ISIS took over Iraqi's second largest city of Mosul when 700 ISIS fighters marched on the city and 30,000 Iraqi soldiers put down their arms and left rather than fight. However, that is not to say there is no fight from the Iraqis' side.. some areas are more willing than others, and as ISIS commits more atrocities against the people of Iraq, the incentive of the Iraqis to fight against ISIS grows by the day.

In the end, the hearts and minds of the people in the area will determine the outcome of the fight

 

You're forgetting that there are only two types of people in this world.

Those who dig.

And those who have guns.

ISIS has the guns.

 

yes but where do ISIS fighters come from, and where do Iraqi soldiers come from?

whoever the people choose to follow will ultimately determine the fate of that country

 

The president has waited for nearly a year for a strategy to deal with Isis in Iraq, as evidenced by his recent comments

http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/08/politics/obama-abadi-iraq-germany-g7/

However, once he gets that strategy, it'll be insufficient. A comprehensive plan will clearly identify the most dangerous Isis affiliates in the world (e.g. Iraq, sutra, Egypt, Libya, Yemen, Afghanistan, Nigeria) and focus government efforts on them. Of course the military will target them but the state department will work with whatever hubs are used to travel there to stop Americans before they can join the jihad. The DOJ/DHS will watch travelers from those countries, and communities consisting of recent immigrants to/from those communities. And the state department will also need to coordinate with allies to get them on board. Right now the US is fighting one war in Iraq/Syria, another in Afghanistan, and watching as our Arab allies (Egypt and UAE) attack Isis targets in Libya and Egypt while Italy separately requests nato action in Libya. Stop the madness and give us a strategy. What do we have to lose by asking for one? I may sign the petition...

 

They were both armed by America.

 

America didn't arm ISIS

 

The only Americans ISIS has killed are those who deliberately violated State Department warnings and walked into war zones.

 

When they do give specific suggestions, they tend to be calls for the US to commit war crimes like carpet bombing cities full of civilians.

 

That falsely assumes that there is a viable comprehensive strategy.

 

Isis is not a threat to the US. This is a civil war we have no business in.

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Anyone can make idle threats. They have no capability to attack us.

 

They have thousands of followers in the west and hundreds in America. What's worse is they're actively trying to encourage attacks. When you combine that with previous attempts (as evidenced by arrests) you get a very real threat. Do you really not see that?

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The petition is calling on the Obama administration to develop one. Have you signed it?

 

You don't understand what I am saying.

You are falsely assuming such a plan could exist.

 

Holy (*)(*)(*)(*) THOUSANDS!!!! To arms to arms!!!!!!!!!


[QUITE]What's worse is they're actively trying to encourage attacks. When you combine that with previous attempts (as evidenced by arrests) you get a very real threat. Do you really not see that?[/QUOTE]
I tend to not see made up bogeymen. Isis is in no way a threat to the US.

what would you suggest we do?

 

I tend to not see made up bogeymen. Isis is in no way a threat to the US.



what would you suggest we do?[/QUOTE]

Develop a strategy?

 

1) If someone leaves the US becomes political and gets into trouble this is not a "clear danger" to the US
2) When we put our nose in to someone else's business, including attacking and killing these people, it should be no surprise when they try to get revenge.

The only "clear and present danger" is that of our own creation.

 

To do what?