Fox: It's Extraordinary That Charleston Church Shooting Is Being Called a Hate Crime

That is one of the problems the left has, their obsession with race. Just like Obama, you take advantage of a tragedy to push your political agenda of hate.

 

He was blaming the lax gun laws. What part of this do you not understand?

 

Oh, I understand context. If a lefty says it, it is just care and concern for the country, if a righty says it, it is racism and extremism. Right out of the delusional left wing playbook.

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Blaming the gun. So what don't you understand.

 

Oh yeah what?
What don't you get?
The point is obvious if one doesn't have an ideological or political ax to grind.



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Tallahassee, Florida(*)– November 20, 2014: 31-year-old Myron May, a Florida State University alum, opened fire in the school’s library, wounding three before he was shot and killed by police. ABC Action News found a half-filled prescription for the antianxiety drug Hydroxyzine in his apartment after the shooting. In addition, according to May’s friends, he had seen a psychologist and had been prescribed the antidepressant Wellbutrin and the ADHD drug Vyvanse. He also checked himself in to a mental health center called Mesilla Valley Hospital around September of 2014. Shortly after this, his friends discovered the antipsychotic Seroquel among his prescriptions.Seattle, Washington(*)– June 5, 2014: 26-year-old Aaron Ybarra opened fire with a shotgun at Seattle Pacific University, killing one student and wounding two others. Ybarra planned to kill as many people as possible and then kill himself. In 2012, Ybarra reported that he had been prescribed the antidepressant Prozac and antipsychotic Risperdal. A report from his counselor in December of 2013 said that he was taking Prozac at the time and planned to continue to meet with his psychiatrist and therapist as needed.

Milford, Connecticut(*)– April 25, 2014: 16-year-old Chris Plaskon stabbed Maren Sanchez, also 16, to death in a stairwell at Jonathan Law High School after she turned down his prom invitation. According to classmates and a former close friend, Chris was taking drugs for ADHD.Sparks, Nevada(*)– October 21, 2013: 12-year-old Jose Reyes opened fire at Sparks Middle School, killing a teacher and wounding two classmates before committing suicide. The investigation revealed that he had been seeing a psychiatrist and had a generic version of Prozac (fluoxetine) in his system at the time of death.

St. Louis, Missouri(*)– January 15, 2013: 34-year-old Sean Johnson walked onto the Stevens Institute of Business & Arts campus and shot the school’s financial aid director once in the chest, then shot himself in the torso. Johnson had been taking prescribed drugs for an undisclosed mental illness.

Snohomish County, Washington(*)– October 24, 2011: A 15-year-old girl went to Snohomish High School where police alleged that she stabbed a girl as many as 25 times just before the start of school, and then stabbed another girl who tried to help her injured friend. Prior to the attack the girl had been taking “medication” and seeing a psychiatrist. Court documents said the girl was being treated for depression.

Planoise, France(*)– December 13, 2010: A 17-year-old youth held twenty pre-school children and their teacher hostage for hours at Charles Fourier preschool.(*) The teen was reported to be on “medication for depression”.(*) He took a classroom hostage with two swords. Eventually, all the children and the teacher were released safely.

Myrtle Beach, South Carolina(*)– September 21, 2011: 14-year-old Christian Helms had two pipe bombs in his backpack, when he shot and wounded Socastee High School’s “resource” (police) officer. However the officer was able to stop the student before he could do anything further.(*) Helms had been taking drugs for attention deficit hyperactivity disorder and depression.

Huntsville, Alabama(*)– February 5, 2010: 15-year-old Hammad Memon shot and killed another Discover Middle School student Todd Brown.(*) Memon had a history for being treated for ADHD and depression.(*) He was taking the antidepressant Zoloft and “other drugs for the conditions.” He had been seeing a psychiatrist and psychologist.

Kauhajoki, Finland(*)– September 23, 2008: 22-year-old culinary student Matti Saari shot and killed 9 students and a teacher, and wounded another student, before killing himself.(*) Saari was taking an SSRI and a benzodiazapine. He was also seeing a psychologist.

Fresno, California(*)– April 24, 2008: 17-year-old Jesus “Jesse” Carrizales attacked the Fresno high school’s officer, hitting him in the head with a baseball bat.(*) After knocking the officer down, the officer shot Carrizales in self-defense, killing him.(*) Carrizales had been prescribed Lexapro and Geodon, and his autopsy showed that he had a high dose of the antidepressant Lexapro in his blood that could have caused him to be paranoid, according to the coroner.

Dekalb, Illinois(*)– February 14, 2008: 27-year-old Steven Kazmierczak shot and killed five people and wounded 21 others before killing himself in a Northern Illinois University auditorium. According to his girlfriend, he had recently been taking Prozac, Xanax and Ambien. Toxicology results showed that he still had trace amount of Xanax in his system. He had been seeing a psychiatrist.

Jokela, Finland(*)– November 7, 2007: 18-year-old Finnish gunman Pekka-Eric Auvinen had been taking antidepressants before he killed eight people and wounded a dozen more at Jokela High School in southern Finland, then committed suicide.

Texas(*)– November 7, 2007: 17-year-old Felicia McMillan returned to her former Robert E. Lee High School campus and stabbed a male student and wounded the principle with a knife.(*) McMillan had been on drugs for depression, and had just taken them the night before the incident.

Cleveland, Ohio(*)– October 10, 2007: 14-year-old Asa Coon stormed through his school with a gun in each hand, shooting and wounding four before taking his own life. Court records show Coon had been placed on the antidepressant Trazodone.

Sudbury, Massachusetts(*)– January 19, 2007: 16-year-old John Odgren stabbed another student with a large kitchen knife in a boy’s bathroom at Lincoln-Sudbury Regional High School. In court his father testified that Odgren was prescribed the drug Ritalin.

North Vernon, Indiana(*)– December 4, 2006: 16-year-old Travis Roberson stabbed another Jennings County High School student in the neck, nearly severing an artery. Roberson was in withdrawal from Wellbutrin, which he had stopped taking days before the attack.

Hillsborough, North Carolina(*)– August 30, 2006: 19-year-old Alvaro Rafael Castillo shot and killed his father, then drove to Orange High School where he opened fire. Two students were injured in the shooting, which ended when school personnel tackled him. His mother said he was on drugs for depression.

Chapel Hill, North Carolina(*)– April 2006: 17-year-old William Barrett Foster took a shotgun to school and took a teacher and a fellow student hostage at East Chapel Hill High School. After being talked out of shooting the hostages, Foster fired two shots through a classroom window before fleeing the school on foot. Foster’s father testified that his son had stopped taking his antidepressants and antipsychotic drugs without telling him.

Red Lake, Minnesota(*)– March 21, 2005: 16-year-old Jeff Weise, on Prozac, shot and killed his grandparents, then went to his school on the Red Lake Indian Reservation where he shot dead 5 students, a security guard, and a teacher, and wounded 7 before killing himself.

Greenbush, New York(*)– February 2004: 16-year-old Jon Romano strolled into his high school in east Greenbush and opened fire with a shotgun. Special education teacher Michael Bennett was hit in the leg. Romano had been taking “medication for depression”. He had previously seen a psychiatrist.

Red Lion, Pennsylvania(*)– February 2, 2001: 56-year-old William Michael Stankewicz entered North Hopewell-Winterstown Elementary School with a machete, leaving three adults and 11 children injured. Stankewicz was taking four different drugs for depression and anxiety weeks before the attacks.

Ikeda, Japan(*)– June 8, 2001: 37-year-old Mamoru Takuma, wielding a 6-inch knife, slipped into an elementary school and stabbed eight first- and second-graders to death while wounding at least 15 other pupils and teachers. He then turned the knife on himself but suffered only superficial wounds. He later told interrogators that before the attack he had taken 10 times his normal dose of antidepressants.

Wahluke, Washington(*)– April 10, 2001: Sixteen-year-old Cory Baadsgaard took a rifle to his high school and held 23 classmates and a teacher hostage. He had been taking the antidepressant Effexor.

El Cajon, California(*)– March 22, 2001: 18-year-old Jason Hoffman, on the antidepressants Celexa and Effexor, opened fire on his classmates, wounding three students and two teachers at Granite Hills High School. He had been seeing a psychiatrist before the shooting.

Williamsport, Pennsylvania(*)– March 7, 2001: 14-year-old Elizabeth Bush was taking the antidepressant Prozac when she shot at fellow students, wounding one.

Oxnard, California(*)– January 2001: 17-year-old Richard Lopez went to Hueneme High School with a gun and shot twice at a car in the school’s parking lot before taking a female student hostage.(*) Lopez was eventually killed by a SWAT officer.(*) He had been prescribed Prozac, Paxil and “drugs that helped him go to sleep.”

Conyers, Georgia(*)– May 20, 1999: 15-year-old T.J. Solomon was being treated with the stimulant Ritalin when he opened fire on and wounded six of his classmates.

Columbine, Colorado(*)– April 20, 1999: 18-year-old Eric Harris and his accomplice, Dylan Klebold, killed 12 students and a teacher and wounded 26 others before killing themselves. Harris was on the antidepressant Luvox.(*) Klebold’s medical records remain sealed. Both shooters had been in anger-management classes and had undergone counseling.(*) Harris had been seeing a psychiatrist before the shooting.

Notus, Idaho(*)– April 16, 1999: 15-year-old Shawn Cooper fired two shotgun rounds in his school, narrowly missing students. He was taking a prescribed antidepressant and Ritalin.

Springfield, Oregon(*)– May 21, 1998: 15-year-old Kip Kinkel murdered his parents and then proceeded to school where he opened fire on students in the cafeteria, killing two and wounding 25. Kinkel had been taking the antidepressant Prozac. Kinkel had been attending “anger control classes” and was under the care of a psychologist.

Blackville, South Carolina(*)– October 12, 1995: 15-year-old Toby R. Sincino slipped into the Blackville-Hilda High School’s rear entrance, where he shot two Blackville-Hilda High School teachers, killing one. Then Toby killed himself moments later. His aunt, Carolyn McCreary, said he had been undergoing counseling with the Department of Mental Health and was taking Zoloft for emotional problems.

Chelsea, Michigan(*)– December 17, 1993: 39-year-old chemistry teacher Stephen Leith, facing a disciplinary matter at Chelsea High School, shot Superintendent Joseph Piasecki to death, shot Principal Ron Mead in the leg, and slightly wounded journalism teacher Phil Jones. Leith was taking Prozac and had been seeing a psychiatrist.

Houston, Texas(*)– September 18, 1992: 44-year-old Calvin Charles Bell, reportedly upset about his second-grader’s progress report, appeared in the principal’s office of Piney Point Elementary School. Bell fired a gun in the school, and eventually wounded two officers before surrendering. Relatives told police on Friday that Bell was an unemployed Vietnam veteran and had been taking anti-depressants.

Winnetka, Illinois(*)– 20 May 1988: 30-year-old Laurie Wasserman Dann walked into a second grade classroom at Hubbard Woods School in Winnetka, Illinois carrying three pistols and began shooting children, killing an eight-year-old boy, and wounding five others before fleeing. She entered a nearby house where she shot and wounded a 20-year-old man before killing herself. Dann had been seeing a psychiatrist and subsequent blood tests revealed that at the time of the killings, she was taking the antidepressant Anafranil.

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More info on the effects psychotropic drugs have on society here.


http://www.globalresearch.ca/dramat...ole-of-prescription-psychiatric-drugs/5358896

 

Thank you for clarifying that. But we both know they will ignore that.

 

You are going overboard to defend a racist killer therefore, I can no longer respond to your heinous posts. Have an interesting life.

 

Not really, when any Republican politician utters it you all cry racism.

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Defend a racist killer? You stepped into Montoya's hate rant about FOX News. Get a grip.

 

I once knew somebody who was killed in a church shooting. I've carried for years and haven't gone to church without it since. Nobody knows except my closest friends and many of them carry. I've hugged hundreds of people at church over the years and nobody has ever known about my gun. If a gunman comes into my church, he'll have to figure out how many people are armed and where they are before one of us shoots him. That's how it should be.

 

I don't know. Larry and Moe Obama?

 

Yes! YOU sir, are bending into shapes and contortions pretzel makers have not thought of to defend a racist killer and if you don't realize that is exactly how you are coming off, you are dead on oblivious to your own online persona...Now I'm done!

 

Give up your campaign to label people based on your own prejudices. You are as bad as Montoya.

 

Laughing At My Obtuseness?

 

No, various factions of gunmen having shoot outs in church is not how it should be. The fact that anybody is even considering such a thing tells you just how far away from how things should be we've fallen in terms of guns in this country. Even in places like portions of Mexico that the cartels control, nobody thinks they need to bring a gun to church. Why do you think things are so out of control here that we have an arms race going on in church? What do you think we could do to stop that?

 

He may not have specifically blamed the guns but he did blame Republicans for thwarting unreasonable gun control laws which he championed. He politicized the tragedy before the murderer was apprehended.

Incremental gun banning is precisely what these unreasonable laws are about.

 

No arms race in that church, against the law there to bring a gun into a church in that State.

 

Right, I'm responding to Texan's argument that we should have an arms race in church.

 

Yeah, you are right, "NO ONE is for banning or confiscating guns." LMFAO!

[video=youtube;vzDO86iSKWU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzDO86iSKWU[/video]

 

You mean self protection against the Millennials. Most of these white shooters have been Millennial young men, born after 1980, most often on some kind of mood altering drugs. I don't know what is going on with them but it would probably be a good thing to figure out.

 

Yep. And we see how that worked out?

 

As a proud gun owner myself I found nothing unreasonable at all about the Manchin Tooney bill. It was common sense. Common sense is frowned upon by the NRA though.

 

the ironic thing is this was a Christian that did this, so glad it wasn't an Atheist

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separation of church and state, the gov can not tell the church they can't allow guns, that would be unconstitutional and they would win if they fought it

 

I find it ironic that a gun owner supports a bill (actually an amendment to a bill) that would do nothing to stop any crime and supports unconstitutional federal overstep of States rights.

 

Well, this one certainly couldn't have made it any clearer what his problem is. He was overtly white supremacist, he went to a black church famous for its civil rights history, he told the black people there that he came to kill black people, he said it was because he believed they rape white women and are taking over the country, and then he proceeded to kill nine black people.

 

Yes. One person. I kind of doubt she has the power to confiscate guns by herself.