Wrap up, a Mini Ice Age may be heading our way!

"That bit of information is that last year was the warmest year since records have been being taken and this year is on track to surpass last years record.". Last year is not significant at all.
The majority of Scientists agree we are in a pre-glacial phase of the climate cycle and have been for over decades upon decades. And many of them believe we will be cooling in the next decade plus. We have warmed, cooled, warmed, cooled many times. But you need to look at the what the sun is doing. Sorry, but tired of typing the same old thing. Read my other posts on the topic.

The climate is changes, has changed before and will always be changes. Whether we can alter our habits and change it drastically still remains unproven. I think not. I think we should direct our efforts on dealing with the inevitable changes we will experience in the near and remote future.

 

Look, I don't blame you, a lot of people hear one thing in the media and think it is fact. In this case, the alarmists ran with a very poor paper because it fit their bias and repeated it enough to make it sound legitimate. If they cared to to actually investigate, they would realize that this is not as simple as a meme.

 

I'll tell you why Republicans take a strong stand against what's happening. Their ******ned factories might have to spend some of their profits cleaning up the exhausts from them which pollute our atmosphere, rivers, streams, wetlands and now even the ocean.

A perfect example of this (*)(*)(*)(*) happened less than a mile away from my place here on Watts Bar lake in Kingston, TN Dec. 22, 2008. Over a billion gallons of coal ash slurry was released into the Emory River destroying about 60 homes and contaminated the upper part of the lake. This picture shows part of the absolute devastation. The only reason there were no immediate deaths was because many of the people nearest the source were not in their homes. Inspectors had failed to catch an ever enlarging breach in the reservoir which held the material...a bi product of the steam plant. Guess What? Our power bills went up about 10%.....you didn't think they were going to pay for the cleanup did you? 63 home owners received about $28 million but they had to sue and wait years to collect.

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Not sure what that has to do with global warming.

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The last refuge of a failed argument.

 

If one can't rebut the article, then one must attack the source, and/or the messenger.

 

LOL....I didn't expect that you would......surprise, surprise!!


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Still clinging to the false meme from a cartoonist eh?

 

FACT:

"Climate change is no longer a debate over science. The latest surveys show that 89 percent of Democrats, 79 percent of independents and 70 percent of Republicans already believe global warming is happening and is at least partly caused by human actions"

 

Speaking of terraforming...

We Definitely Want to Live on Mars – Here’s How We Plan to Tame the Red Planet

 

It has been in the upper 90's and triple digits here this week. I welcome the cool.

 

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I don't live at the south pole (unfortunately)

 

97% of scientists are on the right side.

 

97% of polled scientists within a narrow field of science agree that sketchy computer models based upon a very small set of data that ignores contradictory data by smoothing it out indicates a trend. With that I agree.

 

Scientists have drilled core samples from hundreds of feet into the ice and verified the beginning of all this temp and CO2 increase and guess what......it coincides directly with the industrial revolution in the United States.

Antarctic ice cores show us that the concentration of CO2 was stable over the last millennium until the early 19th century. It then started to rise, and its concentration is now nearly 40% higher than it was before the industrial revolution. Other measurements (e.g. isotopic data) confirm that the increase must be due to emissions of CO2 from fossil fuel usage and deforestation. Measurements from older ice cores confirm that both the magnitude and rate of the recent increase are almost certainly unprecedented over the last 800,000 years. The fastest large natural increase measured in older ice cores is around 20ppmv (parts per million by volume) in 1,000 years.

 

The greenland ice shelf ice core samples contradict you and your scientists. It has been warmer during mankind's history pre-industrial revolution than the climate models today even predict to be be in the next 100 years.

 

LOL, where do you get your information?

Greenland Ice Cores show warming starting after the little ice age. So do Alantic Ocean Sediment records.





Temperature increases like the last one that ended end of last century are not uncommon.



Even the IPCC does not give attribution statements about the previous warming periods and cannot explain the Arctic warming of the 30's.

 

LOL....I can't imagine the 97% of recognized climate scientists going along with a load of horse (*)(*)(*)(*) like that!

 

Care to prove any of it wrong? BTW, I guess you believe the scientists that did the legwork and studied the data all think their work is a load of .... right?

 

Quick run for the hills, the shove just broke.

 

I guess 'Finley99' never read the following:
Climategate 2.0: New E-Mails Rock The Global Warming ...
www.forbes.com/.../climategate-2-0-new-e-mails-rock-the-global-...
Nov 23, 2011 - We need more objective research and ethical conduct by the scientists at the heart of the IPCC and the global warming discussion.

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Forget Climategate: this 'global warming' scandal is much ...
www.breitbart.com/.../forget-climategate-this-global-warming-sc...
Breitbart
Jan 30, 2015 - How can we believe in 'global warming' when the temperature records providing the 'evidence' for that warming cannot be trusted? It's a big ...

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Graph showing that Arctic air temperature (blue line) parallels natural solar activity (red line).
Source: Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine, "Environmental Effects of Increased Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide," Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons, Fall 2007

 

It's a perversion of science to say that anything should not be debated or re-examined based on new information.

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So the Industrial revolution in the rest of the world didn't do anything?

 

Why do say "Republicans"? This isn't a political issue. You either believe X Scientists or the other group of Scientists. No intelligent person would deny the Climate is changing. But an intelligent person would ask the question, "why is the climate changing"? And if you research this, you would find that historically and since Earth's origins, the Climate has always been changing. Periods of warming and cooling long before humans even inhabited the earth and many times before Humans began using fossil fuels to the extent they are used today.

Those scientists that study the climate cycles believe we are still in the Pre-Glacial climate phase, still cooling.

So what are my views on this subject. The climate is changing, it currently isn't warming as some profess, humans can not change the temperature of the climate by any significant means even if they stop all use of fossil fuels(which is likely not ever going to happen even if we in the U.S. were to do so) and if that were achievable it would no real significant effect on changing the natural climate cycle. IMO, at some point in the distant future, N.Y./the East Coast will once again be claimed by a Glacier. IMO, the climate is shifting. Perhaps, areas now traditionally cold will become warm and warm climates cold. It is possible. IMO, money can be better spent researching ways to prepare with the inevetible changes in the climate. Such as building farther from the coast lines.

 

"Scientists show a decline in solar activity could not halt global warming"

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/news/releases/archive/2015/solar-activity

 

LOL, FTA:

Think it is the same model that missed the hiatus?