Sanders: 'We Have Got to Apologize for Slavery'

It was Illegal after 1867. Illegal slavery probably still exists today in America. I doubt it will ever be 100% eradicated. But it is not sanctioned by the government, and is probably affecting whites as much as blacks, especially with prostitution and the like. It is a human problem, not a racial one.

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Why? Because I refuse to be held responsible for something I had nothing to do with?

 

It wasn't illegal.

You didn't even bother to educate yourself, did you?

 

Sanders is a clueless ignorant fool, as is anyone who listens to anything he says. Greed of the left.

 

Yes it was. Corrupt bastards may have tried to justify it, and were successful at getting away with it for a time, but it was still illegal. I'm not saying it didn't happen, and of course it was horrible, but was not legal. So point your racist calling finger elsewhere.

 

Slavery ended 150 years ago in America.

Mauritania still practices slavery in the year 2015. Slave markets still openly operate and over 10% of the population is a slave to someone of the remaining percentage.

Tell me who needs to apologize for slavery, leftist idiots of the world?
Sanders is just an old fool who should have been born in the USSR where he could have lived his "muh tolerance and diversity" nonsense until it all came crashing down thanks to leftist stupidity in 1992.

 

Poor Esau... do you really not know that Black slavery was practiced by Black Africans many, many years before Blacks sold Black slaves to White Europeans? Google up this subject and you'll have more to read than you can handle in several days. Part of what you'll discover is that, if apologies need to be extracted for slavery, we should also include the Italians, and rulers of several Islamic countries. Why? Because Black slavery was routine in ancient Rome, and it was practiced in Islamic countries, too.

But I'm just curious enough to ask, since you've stated that "99%" of my post is lies, what exactly are you talking about? And, while you're at it, who or what is "Rose"...?!

 

join me on Ghanaweb and we can discuss africas role. for now why dont we focus on your history as this is an american forum, or would you feel inclined to pass the ball on to one of your more senior teammates? you know, the history where white people took them to america under captivity?

 

your opinion is woefully inaccurate. all you did was repeat your initial post of lies as if that would somehow magically make it true. you have provided no evidence that what you say is true. why should i believe you?

 

It was institutionalized -- for decades.

The very opposite of illegal.

 

And, you reply with nothing. But you are as insistent as ever that I have posted "lies"? I'm NOT going to do your research for you, Esau, and I suspect that you will have a huge learning curve to overcome on the topic of Black-on-Black slavery if you are to achieve even the most basic understanding of this bestial practice that African Blacks inflicted on other African Blacks.

Can you at least understand that slavery, per se, was not the primary cause of the American Civil War? Surely you are at least capable of seeing this much:
1. Civil War begins April 12, 1861.
2. Lincoln issues "Emancipation Proclamation" January 1, 1863.

Thus, if slavery, per se, was the raison d'être for the American Civil War, wouldn't Lincoln have issued this before 1863?!

No one contests that fact that slavery played an important part in the growing hostility and antagonism between the North and the South. But the pivotal point upon which the rebellion began was the rights of individual, sovereign states. Now, do you want to just go on calling me a liar, or do you have anything to say that has any substance...?

 

This again? For the gazillionth time:

The South went to war to protect, preserve and expand slavery.

The North went to war to preserve the Union.

Only midway did it become about abolition of Slavery for the North.

This isn't hard.

The states rights to protect, preserve and expand Slavery.

The rights of the individuals -- those near four million slaves?


Phhhht.

 

The South wanted to abolish slavery also but the federal government refused to come up with a plan that would keep it from being chaotic. Yanno, just like illegal immigration today.

 

I really wish people would get history right.

Lincoln freed zero slaves in the USA. The Emancipation proclamation freed slaves ONLY in another country(the CSA). The slaves in the US slave states remained slaves after the proclamation and most kept them until the amendment was passed, outlawing slavery in the USA.

Lincoln was an abolitionist, a white supremacist, and only freed the slaves for military gain. He isn't a saint. He wasn't even that good.

That at being said, I'm glad slavery was finally abolished by amendment. All people are created equal.

Frankly, this is hilarious. There are more slaves in the world today, than in the entire 300+ year history of the African slave trade. That includes slaves right here in the states, today. Yes, there are still slaves in the USA. It's sickening.

 

What a humongous pile of steaming bull crap that is...^

 

Learn your history.

Literally tens of thousands were freed immediately by the Emancipation Proclamation.

It was a brilliant tactical measure

And it had a profound affect.

Part of the EP also included an invite to those slaves -- telling them 'come on over' -- and escape the tyranny of the confederates to go fight for the Union.

And indeed, nearly 200,000 black troops helped in the Union cause.

Also: The CSA was not another "country." Not one government in the world recognized them as such.

Also, too, you might want to review this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Confiscation_Act

 

If you are going to skip out on the sins of your fathers, what makes you think you can inherit the cash those same sinners left you?

 

Stop trying to act like one has anything to do with the other. Plus, this isn't our parents we're talking about when it comes to slavery. It's numerous generations ago so stop trying to act like anybody today owes anybody else anything because of slavery. There aren't many arguments out there more absurd than that one.

 

Well, first off, if I did have relatives that owned slaves, it would have been my great-great-great-grandfather. However, there is no indication that he owned any slaves. He was a rancher near the Rio Grande in Texas. Since he was hanged in his own yard with his own rope by Mexican Bandits, then by your reasoning, all Mexicans own me reparations.

Second, it was my grandfather's family on my mother side that came from Texas. My grandmother's family on my mothers side came from England after the CW and both Grandparents on my father's side came from Germany after the CW. Since my Grandfather's family left Texas shortly after my g-g-grandfather was hanged....with pretty much only the clothes on their back, I doubt and money gained from "slavery" (if my family ever owned slaves) was ever passed down to me.

 

That's where you are dead wrong, but I can give you another example if you like.

You've just waged a pretty good fight to retain the battle flag because it represents 'heritage'. If it does that, you can surely acknowledge the "sins" of your fathers because you already have.

 

As i said in other threads, my family is from Pennsylvania. I had a relative fight for the union. When can I expect my 'thank you' from all the blacks and progressives?

 

Those debts have more than been paid for with the lives of hundreds of thousands of soldiers that fought to abolish slavery, along with trillions of dollars and almost as many affirmative action type programs instituted since the sixties.

Beside that, the idea that all white people are just living large because blacks were made to pick cotton in the 1830's is just a laugh and morally retarded.

 

I will NEVER apologize for what people, who I'm not even related to, did hundreds of years ago. I'm white, but my family came from Ireland in the early 1900s. The black people deserve nothing from me, no apologies or anything. This is a dangerous precedent these politicians are setting. The political correctness is the downfall of America. It's nobody's fault in this entire country, for slavery. Not a single person.

This is pathetic.

 

An apology is the very least the feds should do.

Via executive order, I'd like to see Obama, or hopefully incumbent Sanders, decree a massive federal school-building in the ghettos program, and low income housing project, plus federal grants for small business loans in blighted areas (including white ghettos primarily in Appalachia and TX).

That would be the appropriate action.

 

Why don't you just take 100% of every white Americans money and assets and give it to blacks while you're at it?

 

I still haven't seen an answer to my question from the folks that agree with Bernie. He says that it wouldn't be his place as president to apologize, but that the American people should apologize.

Who should they apologize to? Themselves? Are certain other people besides the president exempt from the apology? Who should be except? Does he intend to demarcate in a color-of-the-skin kind of way because I'm pretty sure there's a word for that.