Israeli settlers torch Palestinian homes, burn baby to death!!!

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  1. Yetzerhara

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    Fair comment. What happened was terrorism. Both the President and Prime Minister of Israel visited the family, apologized and stated they will catch and arrest the terrorists. They will. They will also compensate these people as they would Israelis attacked by terrorists. I happen to agree with your comment as probably do most Israelis. This is disgusting crap. It doesn't matter who does it, it dehumanizes and inflames and serves only to escalate terror. This is part of a series of revenge attacks going back and forth over perceived injustice from both sides of the conflict.

    It is humanity at its worse. I can't speak for Israelis and I won't. It would be patronizing and presumptuous but I lived there, went to school there, worked on a kibbutz and was part of a youth peace movement and was taught as a Zionist to respect and live side by side with Arabs whether they be Jews, Muslims or Christians or Druze or Beduin and on and on. This is not what Israel was created for nor what its people embrace.

    The pathetic sobs who did this will rot in jail when they are caught. That is all I can say, and to tell you the vast majority of Israelis hate this and hate to see it and will not stand for it. They hate it. I say that without meaning to be presumptuous.
     
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    what, they had to abandon ILLEGAL settlements build on private land in Beit El. That's terrible.

    Meanwhile, at the same time Netanyahu green lights construction of 300 homes in Beit El, some of which are being given to those that were going to live in those illegal homes. Yep, they were rewarded.
     
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    Sadly, this is not the first time that this happened and this will be repeated over and over again until the Israel government learns about "Never Again" and "Enough is Enough", enabling it to take action against anti-Semitism which will cause it to recognize and accept the nation of Palestine instead of encouraging more Israelis to continue being racist against innocent Palestinian Semites. Israelis the product of its own anti-Semite hatred.
     
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    Instead of blaming and condemning the hated Semites with anti-Semite racism while justifying the live burning of innocent Semites, help Israel to honor the 1946 Partition Plan by recognizing the nation of Palestine within its borders, next to Israel.
     
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    Instead of blaming and condemning the Semites with anti-Semite racism while justifying the live burning of innocent Semite children, pressure Israel to recognize and accept the nation of Palestine next to Israel along the 1946 Partition Plan drawn by the international community.

    Enough is enough. Stop being criminal against innocent Semites!
     
  6. The Judge

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    Instead of blaming and condemning Semites with racist hatred with the hope of defending the live burnings of innocent children, it makes more sense to condemning Israel for rejecting a fair two-state solution. Israel is the one who rejects both nations and only Israel can be blamed for such. As such, Israel is fully responsible for the death of each and every Semite who is murdered due to Israeli fault.
     
  7. AlpinLuke

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    I adore history because it's neutral as for fact [than you know, as for reading it ... it's a different matter!].

    Israel had created well before than any Palestinian entity and UN has recognized it first. So that Arab countries should recognize Israel first. Then Israel could recognize Palestine ...
     
  8. AlpinLuke

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    Again, according to UN Arab and Muslim countries [all of them] should recognize Israel first ... [they are UN members ...]
     
  9. The Judge

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    The 1946 Partion Plan drew a line for two nations. Unfortunately, anti-Semites have been rejecting both nations since. Instead of endlessly blaming and condemning the Semites with racist hatred, it would make much more sense for you to recognize and accept both nations along the lines drawn for them.

    Why honor the hatred and murder of Semites instead of recognizing both nations?
     
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    Arab and Muslim countries, along with the rest of the world, recognize and accept the nation of Palestine next to Israel. Instead of endlessly attacking Semites with anti-Semite hatred, it is better to recognize and accept both nations. The League of Nations drew the lines for both nations, so accept both instead of advocating Holocausts against innocent Semites. It is sad how you attack Semites with racist hatred instead of opposing racism.
     
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    First, I appreciate that you put all Semite populations together [often there is who calls "Semite" only the Jews, while the large majority of Arab populations in ME is Semite as well ...].

    So, to be anti-Semite means to be also anti-Arab ...

    I'm not anti-Semite [as it's evident!] and in its complete meaning. Being Italian, anyway, I have to underline that despite Italy sustains the two states solution, the Italian Parliament hasn't voted yet in favor of the recognition of the State of Palestine. The vote about this saw two motions [different motions]. Substantially the Italian Parliament hasn't recognized the State of Palestine keeping on supporting the direct negotiation between Israel and the PA.

    I would say that first the PA has to solve the problems in Palestine, than we will be ready to talk about recognition ...
     
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    A note about the recognition:

    Palestine wasn't there when US, USSR and Turkey recognized the State of Israel, forcing "de facto" the birthing UN to do the same. Where was Palestine in 1948?
     
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    All humans are equal and have the right to be treated equally. The same rule applies to Semites and to Israel and Palestine. Both nations exist and anyone who rejects either is a cold-blooded anti-Semite.

    Israeli problems are an Israeli matter and Palestinian problems are a Palestinian problems. Yet, both nation can elect to work together through treaties.

    The Italian Parliament is a corrupt anti-Semite body of racists which honors the live burning of innocent Semite babies. Shame on Italy for being racist.
     
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    The region was known at the time as Palestine, with the Partition Plan recognizing such by drawing a line through it, attempting to please the demands of fresh migrants to the region. I wonder how Italy would feel if similar was done for African immigrants? Why is Italy still being heavily troubled with anti-Semitism? Too many innocent Semite babies have already been burned alive due to Italian racism against innocent Semites. Italy needs to renounce anti-Semitism and join the rest of the world in opposing racism. Isn't Italy supposed to be mostly Catholic? The Pope doesn't agree with such Italian racism.
     
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    You're entitled to have your opinion about the Italian Parliament. But you're quite moderate, in Italy you can meet Italians thinking even worse!!!!
    [overall regarding bribery, you know ...].

    Anyway, technically, now you are showing not to respect the sovereignty of a foreign country. In Italy the Parliament is entitled to vote about similar matters. So if you want Italians to respect the possibility [just the possibility] of a future sovereignty of a Palestinian State, you should be more "fair" in dealing with Italian institutions.
     
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    Not surprising. The first of the Nazis on the planet earth - the Jews. It was they who first proclaimed themselves - God's chosen people. And Jews called other people worse than animals. (see Talmud, for example)
    Later this ideology adopted of the British, Hitler, Pol Pot .... and other American friends. Such as, for example, Samos or Duvalier.... But .... Obama also recently spoke of the "exceptional nation."

    P/S:
    Moderators, my comment did not violate the rules. All that I wrote - it is written in the Bible. Or your forum Bible also banned? Or you can talk about the German, Italian, Japanese fascism, but ... the Jewish fascism - it is impossible? Double standards do not add credibility.
    I beg you, do not, as usual, to remove my comment and write me a penalty balls.
     
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    It was a British mandatory ... Had the international community to recognize the "British Palestine" without that no Palestinian created institutions declaring its British independence?

    Remember that Palestinians issued their Declaration of Independence only in 1988 [! Why didn't they do this in 1947-1948? Wonder ...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_Declaration_of_Independence].

    Italy is a lay country [and I'm Protestant, by the way].

    Regarding the Pope ...

    The Vatican [which is an independent state] has recognized Palestine "de facto" last May.
     
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    In the words of Mrs. Clinton, when He sees kill - "Wow".

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    Those Italians who voted against recognizing the nation of Palestine are showing no respect towards other nations and they defending the current condition of apartheid which causes innocent Semites to be wrongly burned alive due to the racist condition of not accepting both of the nations of Israel and Palestine. If I was Italian, I would be ashamed of the government. How is it possible that the Italian government is allowing itself to be so heavily racist?
     
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    Palestinians shouldn't have to declare independence of their own nation that they have lived in for generations. 1988 is irrelevant. What is important is that Italy still honors the hatred and murder of innocent Semites instead of recognizing and accepting both the nations of Palestine and Israel. Maybe Italy should resign as a nation and resume its former city-state type of governance, similar to what it wrongly forces upon Gaza.

    The Vatican is correct in accepting both nations, treating both equally instead of defending violence and murder.
     
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    That nice but very naïve, more than the apparent tragedy there is a national struggle that all events are nationalized to its cause,

    The PLO announced within hours:

    They will relocate the family
    They will start their own investigation (as if they can question Israelis...)
    They will apply Jordan to apply the UN to start a war crime investigation (as if the Israeli gov sent those terrorists)

    ofc Hamas promised revenge and within hours as well there was a shooting at a passing Jewish car in the WB but no one got hurt yet.

    My point is there is no point addressing Palestinians as Israeli equal citizens set apart by hate and racism because they don't want to be part of Israel , they want to liberate the confiscated lands and create their own country.
     
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    This is an anti-Semite generalization. Various Palestinians have expressed support for a one-state solution together with Jews, or a two-state solution together with Jews. Not all think alike.

    The key is that one ends the status quo, which is apartheid. The more that Israel continues to enforce apartheid upon hated Semites, the more that Israel will continue honoring the slaughter of the hated Semite. At the going rate of things, Israel will become far more bloody and racist than it has ever been in the past. If an Israeli has not yet honored the murder of a hated Semite in the past, then he or she will do so in the future, unless apartheid is abolished.

    How much more anti-Semite do you desire for Israel to become? Currently, Israel represents the hatred of the innocent Semite.
     
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    I think you had too much coffee, Zionism is a Jewish movement and wouldn't take off from Russia without Jewish support, at bottom line Jews that did saw themselves as part of a greater nation followed its national goal of creating a state, those that didn't remained in their own countries.

    If you oppose our rights on what basis do you ask our considerations to the rights of others ?
     
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    Israel is infamous for being anti-Semite, dragging all Jews into every discussion for the purpose of attacking Semites with racist hatred.
     

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