About Cultural Marxism

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  1. Josietheskeptic

    Josietheskeptic New Member

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    Is the rise of liberalism, political correctness related to cultural Marxism Being applied to society through main stream groups? Is cultural Marxism changing our society for the better/ worse or it is just a conspiracy theory?
     
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    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Culture is a function of the aggregate of individuals in society. If cultural Marxists want to reform the culture to their ends, through their own action - then I have no objection. But almost always they try to force this on others through legislation. Anti-discrimination legislation is the ideal example.

    And (*)(*)(*)(*) that.
     
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    there is no such thing, it is just a way to create a pretend enemy.
     
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    It's clearly a very real thing. You might disagree with the term, but the concept is very much present. Just turn on an opinion news show like The View or The Project, people try to reform the attitudes of society all the time.

    I agree that the conspiracy nonsense is just that - nonsense, but people always feel the need to speak up on society's attitudes. Most of them also feel the need to force their attitudes on others through legislation. The right does this on drugs, sexual orientation, etc; the left does this on guns, discrimination, etc.
     
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    It's more than Cultural Marxism at play. The tactics introduced to push Cultural Marxism have been picked up and used by various groups who have their own interests to push wholly separate from the Cultural Marxists. Combined the effect is devastating because there is very little way of combating all the effects...
     
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    It's not like the capitalists didn't use legislation to force their ideals on others first. The capitalists used legislation to remove the rights of individuals to use the land that nature freely provided, as an example. Is it not justifiable to use force against force? The capitalists used force to make the land private property; so why would it be wrong to use force to remove that property? I do not agree with the Marxist ideas but as a matter of ethics they are no worse than the capitalists.
     
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    By "cultural marxism," do you mean like forcing other people to follow only one religion or speak one language?
     
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    yes it is. Cultural Maoism they practice in the West is aimed to substitute the former ideology of Individualism by Egoism.
     
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    there are more to it then that, cultural Marxism embraces a whole school of thoughts but yes forcing their ideology on everyone
     
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    Cultural Marxism was a label attached to the "Frankfurt school" of social theory.

    Today its is used as a partisan "bumpersticker" in the US for those that have no clue what critical theory.

    Its a useful catchphrase to exploit "what they hear".

    And it isn't about forcing their ideology on everyone at all. One of us completely misunderstands it.
     
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    your term derives from Cultural Bolshevism which was a nazi term. are you saying you are a nazi?
     
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    1. Nice guilt by association there. People are so ready to jump to irrational fallacy when they have no legitimate response.

    2. It's not my term. Did you read my post at all?
     
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    Only for the believers of an ideology or political system or stream, society is changing for the better, for all others for the worse (eventually for everybody the same bad history (information from a system has never led to good period of history, only information from within a society can lead to a good period, a period because history repeats because of the new generations (parents place their children in front of tv at age two, not good)

    New information can lead to a new insight, thought process, to a new believe, which is always revolutionary. The problem is what words (information) put out does to people. Words (information) always cause change, while you can only prevent a revolution if propaganda (conspired and masterminded information) is ignored by a majority. How many people ignore information originated from politics, tv, radio, etc, in other words from the system and continue with the information in their minds pre year 2000? (everybody born post 2000 has that information in mind)

    You can only start to look at history and see when media and politics started to influence large amounts of people's minds, means a lot of people that own the same kind of information (the current global information society)

    Preventing a revolution (because a revolution was and is the goal of the conspirators) would mean that you need at least a majority of a population that owns different, or unique of the same amount of information in mind. Unique thinking is hard when everybody is part of the same system and receives the same information.
    For example; futurists (writers, engineers) imagen other kinds of societies and worlds (invent new information and insights), that information is more unique (but they also use parts of information from the current system, because nobody can get rid of every detail, the common things remain)
     
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    you are the one using a nazi term?
     
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    Says the guy who is in favor of court order marriage equality,
     
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    CausalityBreakdown Banned at Members Request

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    Cultures change. The backwards ideas of the past are now recognized as the outdated and prejudiced load of horse(*)(*)(*)(*) they are.

    Racism, Homophobia, Sexism, Classism, etc are all ideas and speech, yes. In the same way, cancer is alive. But neither can be allowed to exist, because they will grow and destroy what we want to preserve. Just as cancer is incompatible with life, prejudice is incompatible with freedom.

    I'm not advocating for the use of violence or legislation to stop these things. I'm advocating for everyone to do their part to kill these things. Do not give them a platform. Do not give them an audience. Cut them off.
     
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    Please read #2 in the post you just quoted. I was referring to how I quite clearly said that I don't buy into any of the conspiracy nonsense and am quite happy to use whatever term fits the concept - but that doesn't make the concept any less present. Nor do I think it's purely a Marxist phenomenon: the right does the exact same thing all the time.

    Get off your Godwin's law'ing high horse or go bother someone else. I don't have time for slandering matches, there are plenty of other new quotes in my notifications that require my attention.
     
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    That I can tolerate. Boycott, protest, speech. Discrimination is a decent example of this: I am all for boycotting businesses that discriminate - but anti-discrimination legislation uses force and the threat of force to take away the property rights of individuals and organizations.

    I'll join you at the picket line, but I will never join your legislative cause.
     
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    than quit posting
     
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    The question is, does this (whatever it is) benefit society as a whole or just a few? If it benefits a few then it's not useful and has to be dumped.
     
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    The question is if it benefits more than it harms. Nobody is harmed by racial or queer equality, yet they benefit millions.
     
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    No, it's forcing everyone to follow every religion and speak every language. But only the religions and languages that the cultural-marxist have determined to be politically correct.
     
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    Really? What religion are you being forced to follow?
    What language are you forced to learn?

    Can you point to the legislation that forced these on you?
     
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    Not being forced to learn any religion but forced to except many religions and press 2 for English.
     
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    Are you suggesting we are forcing people to follow the religion of Marxism and speak one language?
     

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