MH 17 Plane crash is discussed again

its a fact: 110 people in Russia own 35% of the nation's wealth.

in the USA, its 13,000 people owning 35% of the wealth.

conclusion? there is more financial inequality in Russia than the USA.

 

Ron....I know you have seen me post many LINKS to many sources including Russian Media sources....these Russian Media sources once Putin seized control of the Russian Media were FORCED TO RECANT THEIR ARTICLES ABOUT THESE 110 PUTIN BUDDIES....but the Internet still has the ARTICLES posted on these Russian....PRE-PUTIN SEIZING....Media articles for any and all to see.

What I find both funny and very sad is that some Russian's and all Putin supporters refuse to recognise THEIR OWN LEADER AND HIS BUDDIES ARE STEALING THE OIL AND NATURAL GAS PROFITS OF RUSSIA!!!

After all Putin seized control of every sizable Private Russian Company and seized ALL PRIVATE RUSSIAN ENERGY COMPANIES as Putin labeled them STATE OWNED!!!

Well if they are STATE OWNED....why is it the Russian People have not seen ONE RUBLE OF PROFIT of these Companies Oil and Natural Gas Sales and Exports?????

WHY?

BECAUSE PUTIN AND HIS 110BUDDIES ARE STEALING THE PROFITS!!!

If I was Russian I sure as HELL would want to see wherethis money was going!!!

Why is it these peoplewhoare being RIPPED OFF.....refuse to investigate this theft??

Because those who do investigate....ARE ARRESTED, DISSAPEAR....OR END UP DYING DUE TO POLONIUM RADIATION POISONING!!!

This is also why Putin cancelled the Joint Russian/American Siberian Infrastructure and Energy Development and Exploitation Program!!!

If the U.S. and Canada were involved in this Program Putin KNEW DAMN WELL....he and his 110 Buddies could not get away with stealing the PROFITS because the U.S. and Canada WOULD NEVER ALLOW IT TO HAPPEN!!!

So because of Putin...instead of Russia now having a BOOMING ECONOMY as this program was to begin 13 years ago....instead 110 Putin Buddies and Putin own 35% of all Russian Wealth!!

AboveAlpha

 

Of course Russia against. Judges who? Americans who killed Sadam Hussain extrajudicially or Slobodon Milashevich who allegedly died during the investigation. LOL

 

Sloby Boy was a vicious mudering SOB who is lucky he died so easy compared to the huge number of people he killed and those people were men, women and children of all ages.

Saddam was tried by his own people and compared to the Acid Dropping Torture Chambers he slowly killed his rivals within and the Chemical Weapons he used on entire cities of people....his Hanging was better than what he did to 100's of Thousands he killed and tortured.

You are supporting these murderous maniacs?

AboveAlpha

 

Well Alpha, I have completed a research and read the report, and I have to say that your claim that Putin and his chums have stolen 35% of Russian wealth is utter rubbish and clearly shows how prejudiced you are about Russia.

I've gone to the original Credit Suisse report. The report discusses Russian oligarchs, many of whom live in the west. For example, we have our fair share residing in London. Also, it is clear that a very large portion of this wealth was accumulated during the Yeltsin presidency. Not only was Yeltsin feted by the west, he was so corrupt it wasn't funny. During his years when I was still active in journalism, I was shown (and in some cases, copied) numerous documents from Russians on a wide range of dodgy deals his administration were involved in. It was well know at that time that wholesale rape was taking place, and Claire Sterling's book, Thieves World, details some of this. However, one has to be careful about Sterling. I knew one of her sources. But that's a story for another day. In regard to Putin, even the awful AP who had a piece on this subject, wrote that when he took power he merely allowed the oligarch's to keep their money in exchange for their political support.

When you analyse this, it's precisely the same in the US. The wealthy elite support a president and more often than not put them into the White House.

And let me say again, that my focus in these debates - with you and other ferociously ant-Putinists - is that if you are to be taken seriously, then you all need to show the same zealotry to excesses at home as well as abroad. Ever pointing the finger only at Putin and Russia and turning a blind eye to the very same sorts of indulgences in the US, Europe, Japan, Oz etc, shows you have an propaganda agenda. And I, for one, cannot take you seriously because of this prejudice of yours.

Greed is rampant across the world. In one report I read, it was stated that the world's super rich hide between $21-31 trillion offshore in secret accounts. In other words they could pay of the US National Debt in the blink of an eye. The Guardian had this to say (which I have been saying for years):

Source

If you read the Credit Suisse report (see HERE) instead of the senasational news stories about it, which clearly demonstrate a huge anti-Russian boas that the report itself does not have, you'll see, for example, that actual global wealth distribution is centred on the US, the European G7 countries, Germany, France, the Uk and Italy. "China is close behind". In a pie-chart of dollar millionaires by country of residence, 42% come from the US, followed by Japan (8%), France (7%), Germany (5%) UK and Italy (both 5%), then China and Australia (4%). Russia doesn't even feature in the chart and is lumped in the rest of the world category (12%).

In the "ultra high net worth" chart for 2013, Russia comes in 11th place. Top of the list by far is the US, followed by China, Germany, Switzerland, the UK, Japan, France, Italy etc.

While I guess that the minutiae is boring to you (preferring as you do crazed propagandistic headlines), the underlying report that those members of the western media used to spin their anti-Putin stories, actually tells an a different story.

Have a nice day.

 

Saddam Hussein was "made" by both Russia and the United States. Russia - because Saddam was the most progressive leader.

To 1975, He made much in cooperation with Russia (the USSR was). He behaved very decently.

Iraq for Americans balanced Iran in this region. When the Iraq-Iranian war began in 1980, the USA helped it. Helped also the weapon, helped also data with which it was supplied by CIA – arrangements of the Iranian troops and so on, data of the space investigation.

By the time of Saddam's introduction in the president's position, Iraq was roughly developing country with one of the highest in the Middle East a standard of living.

As a result of invasion of the USA and allies (Existence at Iraq of the nuclear and chemical weapon was one of the main occasions to start military operation...- the data on "the uranium transaction" provided to the USA to experts of IAEA were recognized as the forged. ) in 2003, an end was put to Saddam Hussein's board.

Saddam Hussein, perhaps made much and nonsenses … can be, and crimes made. But at the same time at it secular there was a state? Secular.

Iraq was territorially complete state. Territorial integrity of Iraq is now directly called questionable.

Now in the country the political instability and religious intensity which is followed by a terrorism wave remains. In the country chaos. Actually civil war. In 2006 in Iraq ISIS — Islamic State of Iraq group, by merge of eleven radical Islamist groups was formed.

How many for these years, after Saddam's board was lost, or it is more than one hundred thousands, it isn't known, but it is logical more than at Saddam.

War in Iraq also, had catastrophic consequences for world archeology and culture. Tens monuments of the most ancient civilizations are damaged or were destroyed. According to the Ministry of tourism and antiquities of Iraq, in 2003 — 2004 from the country 130 thousand cultural historical values were taken out - 90 thousand archaeological artifacts belonging to Iraq appeared in the USA. (It is a big robbery)

The security council didn't authorize use of force against Iraq. The USA and allies began invasion into violation of the charter of the UN.

The expected military operation was exposed to criticism from political and public figures of a number of the countries; it most the president of France Jacques Chirac, the German chancellor Gerhard Schröder and the president of Russia Vladimir Putin were opponents in principle. The Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation I. S. Ivanov in March, 2002 noted: "We against the power scenario of a solution.

I once again will tell, I don't acquit Saddam, but I don't welcome even more, invasion of the USA into Iraq. It led to chaos many times over to the bigger.

You know, all Arab countries are interested, all without exception that Russia participated in processes of settlement of the conflicts.

Before the USA uses the force, it is more reasonable - to avoid bigger ''evil'' for mankind, it is necessary to cooperate together with Russia in these conflict questions!

 

This is the reason why President Bush Sr. did not push all the way into Baghdad as Bush being a former CIA Chief knew that although Saddam was a brutal and vicious SOB....he was the only reason why Sunni's and Shiite's were not killing each other in a Civil War.

I was against the Invasion of Iraq but when Saddam started using Chemical Weapon's against the Kurd's an Invasion was inevitable.

I agree that the U.S. and Russia should cooperate upon such issues but at the time Russia really had no influence at all and was struggling just to keep it's own head above water.

The issues that are happening now is all about the DEAL that Putin broke.

And the reasons why Putin broke this deal had nothing to do with Russian speaking Crimean's.

It was all about Crimean Natural Gas and the ability of the Ukraine to undercut Russian Natural Gas Prices and use their own Natural Gas Pipeline in the Ukraine to replace Russia as Europe's #1 Supplier of Natural Gas.

AboveAlpha

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This is the reason why President Bush Sr. did not push all the way into Baghdad as Bush being a former CIA Chief knew that although Saddam was a brutal and vicious SOB....he was the only reason why Sunni's and Shiite's were not killing each other in a Civil War.

I was against the Invasion of Iraq but when Saddam started using Chemical Weapon's against the Kurd's an Invasion was inevitable.

I agree that the U.S. and Russia should cooperate upon such issues but at the time Russia really had no influence at all and was struggling just to keep it's own head above water.

The issues that are happening now is all about the DEAL that Putin broke.

And the reasons why Putin broke this deal had nothing to do with Russian speaking Crimean's.

It was all about Crimean Natural Gas and the ability of the Ukraine to undercut Russian Natural Gas Prices and use their own Natural Gas Pipeline in the Ukraine to replace Russia as Europe's #1 Supplier of Natural Gas.

AboveAlpha

 

The chemical weapon wasn't the cause of invasion for the USA. it was earlier...
In a number of statements of officials of the USA responsibility for chemical bombings of Halabdzhi was conferred on the Iranian party.

The genocide of Kurds was ignored both the USSR and the countries of the Soviet block, and the countries of the West and first of all the USA, supporting Iraq against the Iranian Islamists. Conferred responsibility for Halabdzhu of CIA on Iran. One of leading experts of CIA Stephen Pelletye who during the irano-Iraqi war was engaged in the analysis of a situation in Iraq claims [6]:
"The Iraqi army really used the chemical weapon in battle for Halabzhu, but it was used not against civilians of the city at all, and against the coming Iranian army, and all blows were struck to positions of troops of the enemy. Iran, in turn, carried out reciprocal chemical attack, and residents simply got under cross fire and became the next casual victims of ten years' war. Right after accident in Halabzhe CIA carried out expertize of the samples of toxic agents collected in the region and prepared the secret report in which it was unambiguously summarized that not the so Iraqi, but the Iranian gas became the reason of mass death of Kurds.https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Анфаль

Yes Russia in 2003 wasn't rather internally strong, but it could affect a situation (as well as other countries) - if the USA listened to opinion of others. For the USA shamefully to listen to opinion for example, the leaders of some small(weak) country if this country offers the correct permission of a situation?

The last diplomatic initiatives of Russia also reflect its position according to which the UN is the only body which, according to international law, is authorized to resolve issues of the international stability and safety, such as, for example, declaration of war. Concerning disarmament of Iraq Moscow insisted on the central role of the UN. Possibly, threat of Russia and France to apply the veto could prevent introduction of the second resolution on Iraq in which approval of war in Iraq was provided.


Even after the beginning of military operations the president Putin once again urged the American-English coalition to stop immediately war and to find a political solution within the UN.

Mr. Putin called war "a big political mistake". He was afraid of violation of balance of areas of global stability and international law. The prime minister Mikhail Kasyanov stated a regret that the Iraqi crisis started being solved without approval of the UN Security Council. On other flank the Minister of Foreign Affairs Igor Ivanov sharply opposed a military action, having called it illegal, unfair and destructive. He also raised a question: "About what democracy tell Washington and London when they impose democratic principles to the Iraqi people, destroying its country?"http://inosmi.ru/world/20030520/181495.html 2003

ps: Putin not broke any DEAL

 

Well, that is how false flag operations are carried out.

BTW, Ukraine is just a puppet state, without any own know how or secret services.
CIA and Mossad are doing their operations in Ukraine.

 

no, it was a Martian false flag. Or maybe orchestrated from Jupiter.

 

Propaganda (presenting information) to society works because a society is using that information one way or another. Information by propaganda or news let you start to connect the dots (come to conclusions, awakens your mind, also by this conclusion again) or start to think conspiratorially, makes you emotional, lets you start discusions, and so on.
The overwhelming amounts of media information need some 'opposition' to bring emotions more in balance (healtier for a society) Opposition to propaganda and news is when a society takes control over it's own information/communication (local, neighbourhood, hobby, relation, non-political, etc)

 

You know what is better than that?

When those that accidentally shoot down a Passenger Airliner IMMEDIATELY COME OUT AND ADMIT THEY MADE A MISTAKE AND ISSUE DEEP REGRET FOR THOSE HUMAN LIVES LOST!!!

This is what the U.S. did when it accidentally shot down that Iranian Passenger Jetliner that flew over a Battle Area and a U.S. Aegis Cruiser accidentally shot it down.

We admitted it.

People tend to FORGIVE YOU if you admit a wrong doing.

But when you refuse to admit it and even go so far as to come up with the most rediculous and impossible stories and theories like an Su-25 shooting down a Boeing 777 flying at 33,000 feet and at 550 mph....WHICH IS IMPOSSIBLE.....people realise what is going on and begin to hate you for it.

Why do you think just about every single former Soviet State and just about every single former Warsaw Pact Nation has joined or want's to join NATO????

Because they have been at the recieving end of Soviet Violence.

AboveAlpha