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  1. Evmetro

    Evmetro Active Member Past Donor

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    Lol, touche! I suppose it is all entertainment. I like Mark Levin and M Savage as well...
     
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    katzgar Banned

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    there are serious journalists out there. it is interesting that you dont want to find them.
     
  3. Evmetro

    Evmetro Active Member Past Donor

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    I stopped into a little mini mart for a gatorade, and there were a couple of hispanic fellas out front watching me pull in with the Trumpmobile. Lots of tatoos, not your investment banker type. I received glares as I walked passed them into the mini mart, and was really impressed at the level of hatred in those glares. I don't think I have ever experienced that much hate in just a look, other than a few angry dogs that wanted to kill me. I gave them the happy go lucky hello and offered them free Trump stickers, and no response. You would think that hispanics would be really excited about Trump, since the biggest reason why hispanics come here is for jobs, and Trump has vowed to be "the best jobs president ever created". Does this not sound like a match made in heaven?

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    I like you already. Welcome to the forum.
     
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    Interesting. So which Republicans did you support before the '80s?


    What is your definition of a serious journalist?
     
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    Fox never was a news channel. They are a conservative advocacy group masquerading as a news organization (right wing talk radio with pictures).

    And Ailes has always been about the ratings.

    The GOP "debate" was a masterpiece of infotainment.

    Fox promoted Donald Trump because he says the same sort of simplistic red meat nonsense that is proven to appeal to the conservative talk radio audience. Sarah Palin, Herman Cain, Glen Beck and a few others have proven that model. Trump is merely doing the same thing, and getting pretty much the same result.

    People tuned in to the show to see what it was all about. 90% of the viewers don't normally watch Fox.

    So Roger Ailes used the audience Trump delivered to promote their leading news model.

    They had also decided that The Donald had served his purpose. So they attacked him.

    He didn't give any ground and instead of distancing himself from his own misogyny, he doubled down on it. To the delight of the same audience that cheered Limbaugh's attacks on Sandra Fluke.

    Neither Ailes nor Kelly much care. As long as Trump delivers the rating, he's still get his stage. Ailes is laughing all the way to the bank, and Kelly is smart enough to play along.

    This isn't politics. It's very lowbrow show business masquerading as a Presidential campaign.

    The Republican party doesn't even count, and it's THEIR primary!

    But it was Trump's show, and he's keep up his barstool wisdom act.

    Ailes
     
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    Welcome, from another Trump supporter. I veer toward the independent, and not all my views are "right wing." Nor are Trumps, and I could care less if he doesn't tow the party line. I stopped watching Fox after the debate. It was clear they (that bloody witch Megyn, lizard face and dracula boy) were either told, or took it upon themselves to dog pile on Trump, then ask a few mildly irritating questions of a few other candidates for plausible denial when confronted with their attempt at election engineering. EVERY SINGLE so-called question aimed at Trump was a hostile statement from these Bush republican mods, and they even interrupted his answers to throw more crap at him. Those who say other candidates faced the same pressure either have a very selective memory or are total dunces.
    Though I am a Trump supporter, I think he is inarticulate, brusque and rude, but I support him totally because all but one of the other candidates is for amnesty and continuing this conversion of the US to a third world hell hole. Immigration is the #1 issue, quite frankly. We lose our country and republicans lose all elections sooner if this invasion by the world's downtrodden continues. Rubio and Cruz are white Cubans who will NOT get the "hispanic" vote, because most of those coming across the southern border are dirt poor without even basic education, as opposed to Cubans. The Cuban-American republican candidates can get Cuban votes in Florida, but mark my words, Mexicans and Central Americans WILL NOT vote for them merely because they speak the same language.They vote their interests, which does not align with the republican party or with Cuban expats. The only way to get their vote is to adopt socialist policies.
    The other reason I support Trump is because I am murderously mad at what this country has become socially and structurally because of political correctness. The culture I grew up in was a very nice culture where people were trustworthy and polite and no one would think of forcing your 9th grade daughter into a school gym shower in front of a dude that dresses like a girl. I never thought my insistence on equality for all people would result in massive racism against white people, but I am supposed to feel guilty for being white and flog my children because some rich democrats in the south enslaved black folks centuries ago? I'm expected to act as if I don't belong in California because the Mexican lost a war, or weren't paid fair market value? I'm supposed to beat my child's self esteem into the ground because some people aren't as smart or as hard a worker as she is and somehow that "income inequality" is her fault or mine?

    I love the way Trump throws out a massively politically incorrect statement, then refuses to apologize. No one likes or respects grovelers. He gives others courage to do the same instead walking on eggshells constantly and being afraid of offending someone. I'm offended that they are offended!
    I am woman, and think Megyn Kelly was acting like she was OTR. Donald shouldn't have said that, but Megyn asked for it. Rosie O'Donnell IS a fat pig, and she also asked for it. Since democrats can say any damn thing they want and get away with it, why should republicans be held to a different standard? Democrats don't apologize when they say mean things about republicans. If we just stop apologizing for offending those who engage in identity politics, pretty soon we won't be skewered over every little thing someone says. They only attack because we respond. we must just say "OH shut up we are sick of the race card."

    I am so sick of republicans making promises to secure the border and enforce the laws and then supporting amnesty (and rephrasing it trick voters).
    When someone goes "off the res" and runs third party, the republicans expect to take their support without addressing their issues. I pledge that I will not support a candidate merely because he is a republican. If they support a "pathway to citizenship" (amnesty) I will NOT vote for them. I will vote third party or stay home and urge Trump supporters to do the same.
    Ok I shut up now.
     
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    Kardashiana he certainly is.

    Trump has never been a classy guy. Just imitation gold plated glitz.

    Back when I was young, Fifth Ave was the place where all the money was, from Bergdorf's to Lord and Taylor, with Harry Winston, Tiffany, Cartier, Elizabeth Arden, Helena Rubenstein, and all the steamship lines and airlines along the way.

    Now it's the glitzy Trump Tower and the Disney store.
     
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    Amazing!

    I've seen this sentiment echoed by many right wingers here. It is amazing. NOTHING happens on the Fox channel that Roger Ailes does not orchestrate! If you don't know that by now, you haven't been paying attention.
     
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    Trump can be inarticulate and he's not an apologizer. I think he meant he likes people that are not McCain, not that he disrespects POWs.
     
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    I heard a different rendition of that aircraft carrier story. Allegedly, he left the ship for R&R while it was still burning, when no one else was allowed to leave. Daddy and Grandpa were Admirals. Either his dad or Grandpa was the one who helped cover up for Israel after they attacked the USS Liberty. John McCain was also accused of lying in his retelling of the carrier story to omit the other pilot's heroic actions and claim them for his own. Some even accused him of causing the accident by being reckless, which was not unusual for him, as he had crashed other planes while trying to show off. He graduated 4th to last in his class, which should be an indication he wasn't an ace pilot.
     
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    one that doesnt pander to the paranoia of far right nut jobs.
     
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    What about pandering to the paranoia of far left nut jobs? I assume that bothers you too, right?

    I was just interested in some specific examples of who you consider credible.
     
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    I understand you are passionate about the POW issue, but I really think he was personally insulting McCain. If you haven't noticed he is not articulate. There are many women who can be offended because he called Rosie a fat pig. He meant to insult Rosie, not all overweight women. I choose to not be offended. I know Trump will not have biased policies against women, and I believed him when he said his admin will indeed take good care of vets. No one else has done squat.
     
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    I think I saw him the other day. He smelled like dope and was wandering back and forth in a tye die shirt in the candy isle at Safeway.
     
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    your attempt at transference is classic in these forums and not constructive at all. the christian science monitor does a good job. as far as the left yes that too. the thing is it is primarily the right that is off the wall at the moment.
     
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    Liberals have gone way left wing, in evidence, an avowed socialist now beating Clinton by 7. Libs used to be for gun rights and free speech, real immigration reform, freedom of association and a hand up instead of hand outs. Now they are the Che Guevara party.
    I was a liberal when it still meant open minded. In a short period of time, everything changed. There are many issues I think republicans are extreme on, but I agree with them most of the time.
     
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    Good post, right to the point, and my sentiments exactly. Why can't we have moderation instead of one guy on the left insisting a women should be able to kill her unborn child at any time before birth and on the other, a dude who thinks expelling a fertilized egg a day after conception is murder.
    Yet none of these people ever seem to get serious about immigration or trade. Those two issues more than anything are killing this nation.
     
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    When he said the word "crazies," he meant people like me who oppose amnesty and want control of the borders. McCain is a jerk and he insulted many Americans.
     
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    Exactly. Hindsight is a wonderful thing. But in 1980 we had a 70% top marginal tax rate and a whopping deficit of $70 billion so conservative policies made some sense then. Then they changed.
     
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    Evmetro Active Member Past Donor

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    As a pilot, care of the ship was not his job. And, if you think taking care of a ship with aircraft and bombs going off isn't something that requires training, there is no excuse for you.

    Him CAUSING the disaster?? His plane was involved as a result of another airplane, not his own. So, that sounds like total BS, too.

    Lots of people hate McCain. Some of the are lowlifes who think that this kind of "swift boating" is called for. They are the scum of the earth.

    No retelling of the Forrestal disaster can possibly be an excuse for lack of respect for McCain's contribution in Vietnam.
     
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    That's one perspective, certainly.
     
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    I'm not a right winger. I am a republican, a fiscal conservative, social liberal who supports environmental policies, animal rights, gay marriage and other liberal policies. However, those policies which are most important to me are addressed by republicans, while the Che Guevara wing has taken over the democrat party.

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    Please define far right wing nut job.
     
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