US Get's War It Wanted, Bombing Assad's Forces

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  1. Independant thinker

    Independant thinker Banned

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    Oh c'mon Jeanette. No one wants these wars.

    Except me of course, but I like war to be more robust. It's too tentative now-a-days.
     
  2. Eadora

    Eadora Well-Known Member

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    Perhaps it might improve ones grasp to International Affairs if he develop the ability
    to read between the lines of a vetted & solidly controlled media

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    THE CIA AND THE MEDIA
    How Americas Most Powerful News Media Worked Hand in Glove with the
    Central Intelligence Agency and Why the Church Committee Covered It Up

    http://www.carlbernstein.com/magazine_cia_and_media.php
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    U.S. Expands Potential Targets in Syria
    http://www.militarytimes.com/story/military/pentagon/2015/08/03/us-air-strikes--syria/31069911/
    The U.S. military is expanding its list of potential targets in Syria to include the al-Qaida affiliate
    known as al-Nusra and the forces loyal to the embattled Assad regime, a Pentagon official said.
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    & given that the whole purpose of American involvement in Syria is the stated objective to remove
    Assad & that US & Israel considered ISIS an asset to that end, that provides Cover & Justification
    for their deeper involvement. Then any thinking person might conclude as to who will bear the brunt of
    .............................................................................. these attacks - Despite any rhetoric to the contrary

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    U.S. to Defend New Syria Force From Assad Regime
    http://www.wsj.com/articles/pentagon-to-defend-new-syria-force-from-assad-regime-others-1438549937

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    US-Trained Syrian Rebels Refuse To Fight al-Qaida
    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/aug/06/syrian-rebels-nusra-front-al-qaida-kidnapping

    US-Trained Special Forces Chief Joins ISIS,
    Vows To Bring Jihad To Russia & America

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-...ef-joins-isis-vows-bring-jihad-russia-america
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    DIA Report Released
    General Flynn Spills Beans On Decision To Let ISIS Evolve –

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/0...ision-to-let-isis-evolve-dia-report-released/
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    Trouble is these Frankenstein Monsters that the US & Israel have a habit of creating,
    have a habit of their own of turning around and biting them in them Azz :roflol:

    Oh well - "Evil Is As Evil Does" & ISIS, the CIA, AlQueda & the Mossad, are all about as Evil as Evil gets :steamed:
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    A handful of fighter-bombers, executing a few sorties against ISIS?

    A war?

    Hardly.

    More like a Girl Scout troop meeting with teeth.

    If we actually decide to go to War, you'll recognize it easily enough.
     
  4. Eadora

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    Is True whether ISIS or Assad - :chew: as to the present situation
    But the US seems to have this nasty Perverted inclination, - of once it gets
    its foot in the Cellar Door - It has this habit of falling down the stairs, like some
    drug crazed serial killer seeking to disembowel & dismember his next victim
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    US To Begin the Invasion of Syria.
    Washington Policymakers Call for the Division,
    Destruction and Military Occupation of Syria -

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/us-to-...tion-and-military-occupation-of-syria/5458628

    US policymakers sign and date paper calling for the division,
    destruction, and US occupation of Syria -


    [​IMG]


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    There are times when I wish this board-system had a few additional post-rating options rather than just "Like", such as "Funny" or "Bulls--t" ... ;-)
     
  6. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Don't you know, Assad is evil and to blame for Syria's destruction for not accepting US demands. :wall: :
     
  7. Margot2

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    An Israeli think tank, The Institute for Advanced Strategic and Political Studies (IASPS), published "A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm" in 1996. It is a short paper - approximately 2800 words - that offered thoughts on Israeli and U.S. policies on national security and economics.

    The paper's principal author was David Wurmser (then affiliated with IASPS). As he researched the paper, he shared some of his thoughts with a half dozen people, including me, and asked us for our reactions and our own ideas. When IASPS published the paper, it described these individuals as a "study group." The paper says its "main substantive ideas" came from talks in which the study group members participated.

    In fact, my relationship to the paper is like that of an individual mentioned on a book's acknowledgement page - simply someone with whom the author consulted in the course of his work. It would be foolish to describe all the names on a book's acknowledgement page as co-authors. And it is foolish to describe me as co-author of the "Clean Break" paper.

    I recall that my main contribution to the paper was the suggestion that Israel could help both itself and the United States by "graduating" from the U.S. economic aid program. The paper drew on that suggestion. It said that the Israeli Prime Minister could "use his forthcoming visit to announce that Israel is now mature enough to cut itself free immediately from at least U.S. economic aid and loan guarantees at least, which prevent economic reform."

    The "Clean Break" paper has become grist for thousands of conspiracy-mongering books and articles. If one puts "Clean Break" and "Feith" into the Google search engine, it produces many thousands of hits. Inaccurate references to the "Clean Break" paper have often been used to make the false and vicious argument that I supported war against Iraq to serve Israel's interests rather than America's. After an article in the Washington Post misreported me as a coauthor of the "Clean Break" paper, the Post published a letter from me correcting the point.

    http://www.dougfeith.com/cleanbreak.html
     
  8. Margot2

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    The Paper That Started it All: “A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm”


    Written in 1996 by a group of advisors to Benjamin Netanyahu, the document breaks down Israel’s plan for the future of the Middle East. The strategic includes destabilizing Syria, removing Saddam in Iraq, buddying up to the Jordanian king, and changing the dialogue over the Israel-Palestine peace talks from “peace for land” to “peace through strength”.

    Two members of the group, Richard Perle and Douglas Feith, would go on to be advisors of the Bush White House.

    Clearly this document had no bearing on Israeli (and American) foreign policy in the Middle East over the next 20 years.

    The full document is found here

    STUDY GROUP MEMBERS

    Richard Perle, American Enterprise Institute, Study Group Leader

    James Colbert, Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs

    Charles Fairbanks, Jr., Johns Hopkins University/SAIS

    Douglas Feith, Feith and Zell Associates

    Robert Loewenberg, President, Institute for Advanced Strategic and Political Studies

    Jonathan Torop, The Washington Institute for Near East Policy

    David Wurmser, Institute for Advanced Strategic and Political Studies

    Meyrav Wurmser, Johns Hopkins University

    https://voluntaryexchangepodcast.wo...-break-a-new-strategy-for-securing-the-realm/
     
  9. Margot2

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    Read "Clean Break Strategy".

    http://www.dougfeith.com/docs/Clean_Break.pdf

    Excerpt:

    Securing the Northern Border

    Syria challenges Israel on Lebanese soil. An effective approach, and one with which American
    can sympathize, would be if Israel seized the strategic initiative along its northern borders by
    engaging Hizballah, Syria, and Iran, as the principal agents of aggression in Lebanon, including

    by:
    striking Syria’s drug-money and counterfeiting infrastructure in Lebanon, all of which
    focuses on Razi Qanan.

    paralleling Syria’s behavior by establishing the precedent that Syrian territory is not
    immune to attacks emanating from Lebanon by Israeli proxy forces.

    striking Syrian military targets in Lebanon, and should that prove insufficient, striking at
    select targets in Syria proper.

    Israel also can take this opportunity to remind the world of the nature of the Syrian regime.
     
  10. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Margot, thanks for sharing that with us.
     
  11. Margot2

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    Plans against Syria came from Bibi Netanyahu. The first line is that they don't want Syrian aggression when they are beating up on Lebanon.

    http://www.dougfeith.com/docs/Clean_Break.pdf
     
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    Ah, yes - the Jews. Are you going to post a link to the Protocols of the Elders of Zion next, Margot? :roll:

    I suppose you and Jenny are going to blame the U.S. and Israel for this, too:

    [​IMG]

    As we all know, Bashar al-Assad, like Muammar Gaddafi before him, was loved by ALL their countrymen and neighbors. From what I've read, Assad really endeared himself to King Abdullah bin Abdulaziz after he assassinated his Lebanese buddy Rafic ten years ago.

    [​IMG]

    Hmm. These Arabs don't seem so happy with Bashar. :(

    Kharma is a funny thing, is it not? Especially in the Middle East...
     
  13. Margot2

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    The Protocols were a satire on Napoleon 2..............

    Read "Clean Break Strategy".

    http://www.dougfeith.com/docs/Clean_Break.pdf

    Excerpt:

    Securing the Northern Border

    Syria challenges Israel on Lebanese soil. An effective approach, and one with which American
    can sympathize, would be if Israel seized the strategic initiative along its northern borders by
    engaging Hizballah, Syria, and Iran, as the principal agents of aggression in Lebanon, including

    by:
    striking Syria’s drug-money and counterfeiting infrastructure in Lebanon, all of which
    focuses on Razi Qanan.

    paralleling Syria’s behavior by establishing the precedent that Syrian territory is not
    immune to attacks emanating from Lebanon by Israeli proxy forces.

    striking Syrian military targets in Lebanon, and should that prove insufficient, striking at
    select targets in Syria proper.

    Israel also can take this opportunity to remind the world of the nature of the Syrian regime.
     
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    English?, Ostap Bender?...
     
  15. Talon

    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Umm.........no they weren't.

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    Nobody wants to talk about Kharma?

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    How about old Syrian blood feuds?

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  16. Eadora

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    That would be nice :mrgreen:

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    Are you? Because based on your post history, you are more loyal to Saudi Arabia than the USA.
     
  18. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The people in the Middle East like most places in the world, have their own historical memories. Because of that animosities can be aroused very easily... not to mention latent ambitions and nationalism. Assad was an Alawite and they were resented by the Sunnis, so it was not difficult for Erdogan, once he got the okay from Washington, to arouse the Turkomans and give them dreams of a new Ottoman Empire. The fighting started in Homs, and it was not by chance. That's where most of the Turkomans live.

    As for the rest of the protesters in Syria, they were duped into believing they would get more rights in the Alawite government if they protested. How were they to know they were being used and manipulated by Washington for a Qatari gas pipeline to break Russia's gas monopoly? What happened later on in Ukraine for a regime change, was just a repeat of Syria.

     

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