What is fueling the Trump movement?

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  1. Evmetro

    Evmetro Active Member Past Donor

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    I like Ann Coulter's opinion that Trump's success is all based on his views on immigration, and this may or may not be what fuels his success.
    My guess is that what is making the difference with Trump, is that his financial independence from what keeps Big Government what it is looks like the one and only chance for us to get out from under the Big Government. Now or never. No other candidate appears to have the financial resources to get into office without being beholden to donors. We the people can tell the government what policy we want once we are free again. There are many things that "generally" separate liberals from conservatives, but with the new style of politics that have shown up since Trump made his announcement speech, we have politics that, as Hannity has pointed out, defy political gravity as we have known it. Now that Trump has come onto the scene, the division appears to be between those who like Big Government, and those who are against Big Government. When the anti Trumps focus on policy, the Trump types just hear them talking Big Government. When Trump types hear Big Government, they rebel, and when they rebel, the anti Trump ones increase their fight for policies. Vicious circle.

    I am curious what opinions you guys have on what it is that is fueling the Trump movement. I know many here are against the movement, but what do you think is actually driving it?
     
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    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    Have you listened to him speak? If not you should do so.

    You have to experience it. I personally like the way he speaks. The way in which he speaks is indescribable. That's something I like to hear from a person.
     
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    Translation: The left has no idea why Trump is so popular?
     
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    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    Just listen to him, you've got to listen to him.
     
  5. Evmetro

    Evmetro Active Member Past Donor

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    I have listened to him speak, and have watched every one of his speeches. This is why I did not take accept the agenda that the media tried to feed me, and why I am an all out Trump supporter. Without watching his speeches in their full context without media spin on them, I might not have arrived at my position.
     
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    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    I know.

    The media is so off base. And they keep interrupting his speeches with useless commentary. No one wants to listen to them. LOL.
     
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    I'm gonna say:Because he says what most people are thinking.
    It seems he's thought about it and has some solutions to problems we're all having.
     
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    Texas Republican Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump's popularity is simply America raising a middle finger to Washington. Americans are fed up with:

    1) open borders
    2) the nanny state
    3) the U.S. becoming the butt of jokes around the world
    4) ISIS

    I could add another 20 items, but you get the idea.
     
  9. Evmetro

    Evmetro Active Member Past Donor

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    I do. Here is how I role:

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    Daniel Light Well-Known Member

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    What's fueling Trump's run?

    The Kardashian Effect.
    And internet shills.

    It will all end when Trump realizes he can't get elected Emperor.
     
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    Pretty much the same thing that is fueling the Bernie Sanders movement: populist anger. Donald Trump is riding a wave of right-wing populism while Bernie Sanders is riding a wave of left-wing populism.
     
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    Translation: Many on the right don't understand him. I like him and I'm a lefty. So there.

    You see Trump can be a republican----- there is room to drive a truck through. Why???? Because most of the party is so far right----out there like Pluto.
     
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    Evmetro Active Member Past Donor

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    Wow, <yawn> how profound. I really wish liberals could bring some intelligent debate to the table. Liberal rhetoric sounds like some kind of computer program that scans data looking for a good place to insert a generic liberal talking point or agenda. Do you have any intelligent insight as to what is really driving such a success, instead of just another generic "I hate Trump" insertion?
     
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    It's sooooooo much fun when leftists keep playing the Race Card; especially after spending the last six and a half years doing their best to convince minorities that they can't trust Old, White people and yet here the Dem Party is today . . . putting ONLY old White people forward for the presidency. Sweet!

    As for Trump he's only a passing fad, much like the Left's current love affair with the socialist Bernie Sanders or the uber corrupt Hillary Clinton. The major difference is that the Right has got a host of high quality politicians with which to replace trump whereas the Left have ONLY got more Angry, old, White politicians waiting in the wings. Sweet!
     
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    Since I seem to have to spell things out to you - Trump is popular because he is a celebrity. He is an everyday news bite.

    Trump is popular with the 30% of the 30% who would vote Conservative. Not really "popular" in the grand scheme of
    things when total voter numbers are tallied. So when you say, "successful," you are really talking
    about media coverage - not voter sympathy.

    I'm hardly a Hillary supporter, but even on a bad day she outpolls Trump on a national level.

    I don't hate Trump, I just don't think that anything he promises can be delivered unless he becomes Emperor.
     
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    I'm not a Trump guy, but I love the enthusiasm. Thanks for sharing.

    I may lean to Trump if he stopped beating up Republicans and turned his guns on Hillary.
     
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    Nice! You know..Maybe people just want a patriotic American for president..as crazy as that sounds.
     
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    My suspicion is that Trump is polling around 20% among likely republican primary voters because 20% of likely Republican primary voters don't like Mexicans, and enjoy veiled sexism in a charmingly nostalgic way.
     
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    He is ballsy, straight talking, dead right on corruption, dead right on immigration. When he was hit by the PC hordes with the same attack that cows everyone else, he not only turned it back easily, he clearly reveled in the experience of doing so. So he brings a great deal of excitement to the race. He has shown the other Conservatives how to appeal to minority voters and how to stand up to the PC crowd that is so deeply insinuated into the left the donor class of both parties and the bureaucracy that seems to consider themselves to be an untitled nobility.

    But why is he in it?
    What is his vision?
    How serious is he?

    We will know the answers to those questions in six months, in the meantime, it is simply to be enjoyed.
     
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    Emotion. Seeking security, a leader figure. Human evolutionary behaviour, it seems unchangable. People always buy into someones emotion (words, comunication), because that is how it works. Roman rulers must have figured out what they could do with their Circus Maximus, they could get control over a large amount of people, and also when they would stop their Circus. An addiction to a repeating event in the city that suddenly would stop, would make a lot of people angry, and that is in both ways revolutionary. So they always have a lot of people in their power and control (and when they don't have them in control they still have them confused, angry or in chaotic state, which give them again power and control)
    Very hard to escape that process (to bring a movement in some sort of state of balance between a few strong emotions)
     
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    What us driving it, is that people are finally realizing that Reagan neoliberalism is destroying the ability of working people to earn a living, much less prosper as they once did before neoliberalism dismantled the economic model that gave working people the American dream and prosperity.

    Trump talks about illegal immigration, sure, but it is tied in with the depression of wages, and taking American jobs. He also talks about free trade and how our jobs are being lost, constantly bled away. He even mentioned in his last speech that when Ford was moving production to mexico, that he would give them a choice. They could move, but pay a 35 percent tariff for the goods they sent back into America, or stay here. He said they would stay here. So what is fueling his support is the same that is fueling the support sanders is getting. Americans are fed up with trickle down, free trade oligarchy. Why this isn't obvious to you is puzzling. It has nothing to do with big gov't, for gov't is the only thing that can reverse this illegal immigration and free trade that is hollowing out America, which allows MNCs to be parasites and contribute nothing to this nation. They take and do not give back.
     
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    These are the things that the other GOP candidates NEVER talk about and with very good reason...they are part of the corruption and the dynamics of the Oligarch machine that has destroyed the middle class. I have not heard Trump address the term "trickle down" voodoo specifically, but I do not see how he can avoid it as he continues to address the issues that are killing the American dream. I do not understand how any Trump, supporter that considers themselves a Republican, will support any of the other GOP hopefuls if Trump drops out of the race as none of them are speaking the truth about the middle class destruction.
     
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    I think it is an amalgam of many things. Trump is perceived as a man who is not in the pocket of the special interest groups and their influence upon him may be minimal as he is a billionaire that does not need their money. I think his candor is refreshing in the world of politics in which politicians are generally so vanilla in their views on one end to being binary absolutes in the other whereas Trump holds no allegiance to either party he is free to speak his mind rather than tow the party line.
     
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    He never apologizes or back pedals. That's his greatest asset.
     
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    That is not what should be driving his supporters. That in and of itself will not turn things around on the issues that need to be addressed.
     

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