Are you and your family “evil” or “wicked”, or is Jesus wrong?

Has Jesus related to you personally what He believes in? I didn't think so. So where do you obtain your information relating to what Jesus believes in?

 

Jesus believed we are all sinners ("evil", "wicked"), in Mt 7:11.
MSH believes in people too much to call us all "sinners".

 

Wait just a minute now. The 'Bible' was not written by Jesus. Aside from that, most non-theists do not consider the 'Bible' as a credible source of evidence, so why are you now asserting that the 'Bible' is a credible source of evidence? In fact, there is nothing in the 'Bible' that was written by Jesus (or so it is believed by some Theists and non-theists alike). If you are going to make a claim, at least use credible sources of information. (sarcasm intended).

 

1. "If the Bible is true, then...." is what I should always say, if you are patrolling the forum.

2. The Bible was not "written by Jesus", because he was too stupid to say "write this down....." to his disciples, or to just write it down himself! Just THINK of how many supposed pearls of wisdom were missed (allegedly) because the so-called greatest person of all time was too stupid to think of that....he just hoped that it would be passed down VERBALLY, accurately, over many generations...what a fool!

 

To avoid someone construing your proclamation as a positive assertion, then 'yes' that is what you should say. It is sometimes referred to as a disclaimer.

You have positive proof of the level of education that Jesus had? No? When considering that He was reported to have been, at an early age, lecturing the scribes and pharisees in the Temple, then I would say that He had a pretty good grasp on educational requirements.

 

So then what you are saying is that your children's college professors would be best if they didn't have their students write their teachings down, wrote none of it down themselves, and just hoped that they'd pass it on to 3 or 4 future generations VERBALLY, because that's exactly the "educated" Jesus' approach to education? Stop and think about that for a moment. Clearly he was an idiot - or not divine, of course.

I'm sure you care about your family more than to want their professors to take that approach. I know I do. You care for people more than Jesus did.

 

I accept your concession to the argument that you were wrong. And no modern
secular humanism doesn't believe in us more than Jesus. That's something you
made up because of your lack of knowledge of the Bible. Instead of wanting
to learn you're intentionally limiting any knowledge that goes contrary to your
dogma of intolerance.

Modern secular humanism must be a sad, sad egotistical and self centered
way to live.

 

Are you saying you can't do any wrong? You've had a bad thought, stole something or
lied. Have you never, ever wanted harm to come to someone? Broken a civil
law?

 

What school system did you attend? I see nothing in my writing that resembles what you have interpreted to be within my writing. At any rate, your posting above does not in any way answer the questions that I previously posed to you. Therefore your writing above serves as a classic example of your avoidance.

 

So, are we to believe Esau was white?

 

It would appear then that MSH is not so in touch with reality. Reality could show that every person living has entertained and committed some lie during his/her lifetime. Regardless of the degree or value of the lie, a lie is a lie.
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2. Something meant to deceive or mistakenly accepted as true: learned his parents had been swindlers and felt his whole childhood had been a lie."

 

Esau was red, according to the bible. Back during those days, they said what they saw. Caucasians have labeled themselves as white in an attempt to associate themselves with purity, but in reality, they're red too.

 

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Esau, being Jacobs brother, would be of the same decent. He was not Caucasian.

 

Esau has no living descendants

 

He does. You're one of them. The sad thing is, God speaks about you multiple times.

Amos 1:11 (NLT) says,

This is what the Lord says:

“The people of Edom have sinned again and again,
and I will not let them go unpunished!
They chased down their relatives, the Israelites, with swords,
showing them no mercy.
In their rage, they slashed them continually
and were unrelenting in their anger.

Are you saying two black people can't make a white baby?

Your definition has the word "white" in it. Why are peach-colored people called white?

 

Custom and usage. Look that one up also.

 

They are saved from being tortured for eternity by a kind and loving God.