Baltimore to pay Freddie Gray's family $6.4 million to settle civil claims

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  1. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    "Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake's decision to pay Freddie Gray's family a $6.4 million civil settlement drew praise and criticism Tuesday, with some Baltimore leaders saying the move will help heal the city and others calling it premature."

    OUTRAGEOUS

    The family hasn't even file a lawsuit. The case hasn't even gone to trial so no one has been proven to have committed any offense or at fault and the mayor is offering one the the largest settlements over alleged police brutality/wrongful death in our history. As one pundit noted last night there have been 120 such settlements this year and add them all together and they don't come close to this amount. That MD law only allows for $400,000 in such settlements. And such settlements are usually based the lose due to the persons death or their incapacitation.

    Why is this stupid mayor forking over SIX POINT FOUR MILLION when no culpability or fault has been shown and the only witness told police it sounded like Grey was attempting to injury himself.

    http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/freddie-gray/bs-md-ci-boe-20150908-story.html
     
  2. TomFitz

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    Enjoy your outrage, but the settlement is a clear indication that the facts in the case aren't good for the officers involved.
     
  3. BestViewedWithCable

    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    Theyre definitely not good for the tax payers who expected their tax dollars to improve the city.

    Tax paying residents of Baltimore, should vote with their feet, and move the hell outta there.
     
  4. SourD

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    Bull(*)(*)(*)(*), nobody knows what the evidence is yet since there has been no trial or are you talking about the evidence that the DA is trying to suppress where Grey has been known to try and hurt himself before and get a lawsuit. That wouldn't be good for Grey not the officers.
     
  5. Bluesguy

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    Actually it has nothing to do with the facts of the case and is more an attempt to taint the jury pool, more reason to move the trial out of Baltimore with it's incompetent government.

    What facts in the case warrant a $6.4 million dollar settlement over his death?

    "The head of Baltimore's police union condemned the agreement.

    "To suggest that there is any reason to settle prior to the adjudication of the pending criminal cases is obscene and without regard to the fiduciary responsibility owed to the taxpaying citizens of the city," Lt. Gene Ryan said in a statement."

    http://www.tbo.com/ap/national/balt...e-ap_national8f440ab7ff994c37a1a1cbc7073f3431
     
  6. Songbird

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    What a joke. The settlement is a clear indication that the Mayor is incompetent, such that her only appeal to votes is to continue to buy them with taxpayer funds. Baltimore is FUBAR thanks to these black liberal idiots that run the place.

     
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    bad cops cost the tax payers money.... hopefully people will now stop supporting bad cops

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    Looks like corruption to me. Most lawsuit payouts like this have a cap and it is nowhere near this amount. Something is rotten in Baltimore.
     
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    This decision confuses me. Why pay out anything before the trial? It seems like they are admitting guilt. I saw the videos and think what was done is dastardly, but it only makes sense to take the whole thing through the legal system before granting any damages, being good stewards of tax payer funds and all. When the trial is over, the jury may order more damages on top of this payout.

    The only reason I can see for preemptively offering what appears to be a huge amount of money, is that they expect any damages at the end of the trial to be much more than they are offering now, or there is an agreement for the family not to ask for more, if they get this amount now.
     
  10. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Bad criminals and bad city officials cost them LOTS more...hopefully people will stop supporting both who are the issue here.

    Now explain the $6.4 million, what is the justification for that? The cap in MD is $400,000. Why the settlement when the family hasn't even file an action against the city? Why the settlement when the persons involved haven't even had a trial. What if they are all found innocent, that Grey caused his own death? Does the city get the money back?
     
  11. Bluesguy

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    Grey was a police snitch and whenever he was arrested or taken into custody put up the faux "you ain't gonna take me" thing. He also had a history of filing actions trying to get settlements.

    As far as the settlement being offered

    "Maryland's Court of Appeals on Monday upheld a cap on monetary awards in lawsuits against local governments, turning back an effort to collect $11.5 million awarded to the family of a Prince George's County man fatally shot by police.

    The ruling means Prince George's County has to pay only $400,000 in the case stemming from a 2008 shooting. The family of Manuel Espina asked the state's highest court to overturn lower court rulings that reduced the jury verdict."
    http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/politics/bs-md-state-damage-cap-20150330-story.html
     
  12. Oxymoron

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    I suppose 6.4 million is a low ball offer, I mean this guy would have made much more then this in his life time..slinging dope, collecting welfare, section 8 damn cuz was a success story.... I mean he also saved us money on jailing him that should go into the equation as well.
     
  13. Bluesguy

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    Yes, how did the mayor come up with the family having $6.4 million in damages because of this criminals death?

    Never have I seen such incompetence and over their heads, and not knowing their responsibilities than this mayor and states attorney.........well maybe the current President.
     
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    As a former president, who shall remain nameless, once said...

    And I'm paraphrasing here...

    "Give them (blacks, but he used a different word) a little bit to keep them under control, but not too much".

    That's what this was. A $6.4m settlement to keep the blacks in the city from burning it down.

    Anyone remember that skit from Chappelle's Show, about blacks and their reparations checks?
     
  15. Aparker2005

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    I think they're making this worse. 6.4 is not nearly enough for these people. When the cops get off, or they move the case, which almost seems very likely now, Baltimore will burn. There's no medium for these kind of people. It's all or nothing, which they won't get. This is just a tiny pacifier
     
  16. theunbubba

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    Ok, so here's the thing. She's the same mayor that told the police to stand back and watch it burn.
    This Mayor won't wait for the process of law to play out.
    It's not an indicator of what evidence the prosecution has.
    It's an indication of the views of the mayor and her staff.


    On the other hand I think they are guilty of extreme arrogance and depraved indifference in their handling of the incarceration of Freddie Gray.

    If there is a conviction I think they should at least get all involved off the force, never to be employed in ANY police activity again.There should be some type of incarceration. And a very large sum.
     
  17. Pred

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    Maybe $6.4 Mil is cheaper than the damage that will be caused after no wrong doing was found? The dumba$$es will burn the city down of course. Think OJ trial. Guarantee the family is smirking a little inside, since their darling son is benefiting them for more dead than alive. Yeah, I know that's really sad, but look at the big picture. He certainly wasn't on the path to brain surgeon.

    His arrest record includes at least 18 arrests:

    March 20, 2015: Possession of a Controlled Dangerous Substance
    March 13, 2015: Malicious destruction of property, second-degree assault
    January 20, 2015: Fourth-degree burglary, trespassing
    January 14, 2015: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance, possession of a controlled dangerous substance with intent to distribute
    December 31, 2014: Possession of narcotics with intent to distribute
    December 14, 2014: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance
    August 31, 2014: Illegal gambling, trespassing
    January 25, 2014: Possession of marijuana
    September 28, 2013: Distribution of narcotics, unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance, second-degree assault, second-degree escape
    April 13, 2012: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance with intent to distribute, unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance, violation of probation
    July 16, 2008: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance, possession with intent to distribute
    March 28, 2008: Unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance
    March 14, 2008: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance with intent to manufacture and distribute
    February 11, 2008: Unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance, possession of a controlled dangerous substance
    August 29, 2007: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance with intent to distribute, violation of probation
    August 28, 2007: Possession of marijuana
    August 23, 2007: False statement to a peace officer, unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance
    July 16, 2007: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance with intent to distribute, unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance (2 counts)
     
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    I say good, pay out the nose.

    Let the citizens of Baltimore suffer from it.

    They deserve it.

    $7 million dollars could do a lot of good but its better give it to the "family" of a feral subhuman degenerate career criminal.

    Anybody who hasn't already left that city is a moron and deserves their fate.

    Maybe that fate is a loss of personal prosperity through Democrat wealth redistribution, or maybe that fate is a loss of their own lives at the hands of the ferals who would benefit from the wealth redistribution.

    Either way they deserve it.

    Police pull out, fireman pull out, lets watch Baltimore burn.
     
  19. Wake_Up

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    In your "humble", opinion, right?

    There hasn't been a trial, there hasn't been any evidence presented. How do you know what is or isn't good for either side?

    Funny how people like you are so quick to condemn when it suits your agenda du jour, but fly into slobbering outrage when the shoe is on the other foot.

    The outrage has to do with the idiots running Baltimore doing this before any facts, evidence, or trial.

    Have the trial, let the facts come out and then handle it when done, not before.

    Just silly.
     
  20. Songbird

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    Looks like the Freddie Gray family will be ...............

    [video=youtube;MYcqToQzzGY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYcqToQzzGY[/video]
     
  21. Bluesguy

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    I full well know what the deal is, a stupid incompetent mayor who says they are giving the family, which as I recall did not even come and get his body, $6.4 million because she thinks that it will "heal the city" and insure the public peace, all of which is totally absurd and more an indication of her own incompetent leadership. But hey as the left says, it's just taxpayer money just hand it out.

    And there is no evidence of any extreme arrogance and depraved indifference in their handling of the incarceration of Freddie Gray. There is evidence he was intent on causing harm to himself and he royally screwed up causing his own demise.
     
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    That's what errors and omissions insurance is for. Baltimore was almost certainly paying high rates due to the high number of payouts in these cases.
     
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    I don't. It's just my "humble" opinion.

    But the people who agreed to the pre trial settlement do know the fact of the case and the chain of evidence.
     
  24. Bluesguy

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    What high number of payouts? Compared to what?

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    This is a state prosecution why would the city council have any intimate knowledge of the evidence that the defense does not have? We have seen the evidence. The autopsy and the one witness statement. What in either justify this payout to a family that had not even filed against the city?
     
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    He should have been placed in better restraints. They do that to prevent this kind of thing.
     

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