Sorry, President Pants-on-Fire But Alaska Is Cooling Not Warming

Two New Studies Warn Global Warming Will Cause Global Cooling (Not A Joke)

"Okay according to two new studies this is how the global warming enthusiasts say it's going to work. Global warming is going to move the gulf stream (which circulates warm and across the Earth and makes cold water sink). They say warming is going to mess up the gulf stream and other ocean circulation systems and cause the Northern Hemisphere to get cold."

http://yidwithlid.blogspot.com/2015/09/two-new-studies-warn-global-warming.html

 

The key to global warming, uh I mean climate change, uh I mean climate disruption is to predict every single possible outcome. Sure you may stick to the narrative 95% of the time but leave yourself some wiggle room and have a few studies predicting the opposite. That way when 95% of your findings are falsified you can point to the 5% and say 'see we were right all the time'.

 

how did i know that your assertion would turn out to be ridiculous?

 

Yeah, you see, global warming will cause all kinds of natural disasters which the world has never seen before like hurricanes and floods, droughts and fires. Then it will turn off the deep under water current thingy when the Earth stops rotating on it's axis. Then the hot air will get cold because, well just because the ocean will absorb all the heat. And then the air stops to circulate too and then that makes it cold.

Science. So there. Computer models say so.

 

Because Breitbart did the study, right? Nothing says "can't dispute single point" like attacking the messenger.

 

that was already refuted

 

Here is a link to the actual study

It says that parts of the Northern Hemisphere could see extreme drops in temperature due to a change in the gulf stream. That is not the same thing as global cooling, which occurs of a global scale. Hence the global part.

I know those in the denier crowd like to desperately pretend that global warming changed to climate change. That is just silly and untrue. Global warming is still happening. It is just not the only change we are seeing. There is also ocean acidification, melting ice, desertification, changes to the gulf stream and other wind patterns and current patterns, and a whole host of other issues.

If you had a fever and the fever was due to having pneumonia, you don't stop having a fever just because you refer to you illness as pneumonia instead of a fever.

 

sea ice melt, permafrost thawing, rising seas and land sinking

are putting western alaskan villages in danger


[video=youtube;aEyZIlinuJs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEyZIlinuJs[/video]

 

Except for most of them!

This is the companion chart to the one used in the article in the OP. Do you think it is just a little dishonest that it was omitted?

 

The Day After Tomorrow (2004)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0319262/

Did not realize this was released over a decade ago.

 

The pictures shown here are a real reflection of the limitations of the science showing manmade global warming. Although weather stations and their data is important, it doesn't reflect how man is heating the atmosphere. Weather is the basic interaction of cold and warm air with water vapor. If we heat the atmosphere the whole planet shares it changes weather globally.

The placement of weather stations do not reflect cause of any global warming. It is amazing to know that everything is designed with or for temperature but the world has been effectively blind to temperature.

As a member of the Thermoguy team, my background and areas of expertise are electrical energy provision, energy use and design, Building Engineering Technology, Thermal Radiation as it pertains to all matter above Absolute Zero as well as an Adjunct Professor lecturing accredited medical education for Continuing Medical Education Credits required for ongoing medical licensing.

You would never know today that building development is an engineered process using Regional Climatic Data for design that is supplied through Building Codes. In the area I will refer to buildings are designed for -4 deg. F to simulate the coldest time of the year and 95 deg. F to simulate the warmest time of the year. We insulate and design the building as well as the HVAC systems to accommodate that. Building Code warns of solar EMFs impact but buildings were signed off as compliant with Building Code without verification. We design the building in a calculator and couldn't see the energy use or heat.

We imaged building development in 7 provinces and 26 states to see the effects of solar EMFs interacting with building exteriors. That provided shocking results that contradicted the reality of building design. In this thread they show thermometers in white bird houses to reflect solar EMFs. That is the same with white washed buildings in Europe because they reflect solar radiation so the building doesn't interact with solar EMFs like a high emissivity exterior finish. Those white washed buildings do not use air conditioning which is in fact refrigeration.

The time-lapsed infrared video is not an artist's illustration, it is accurate temperature in the infrared spectrum taken right at sunrise to see if there was any change in temperature. Ideally we are supposed to blend in with the environment and not impose upon it. https://youtu.be/EA3py3us5VM

Here is another video followed by a link to a weather look so you can see how winds move across the US and Canada. Once we generate extreme heat atmospherically it travels down wind. https://youtu.be/GfLjMebVxkk

http://www.weather.gov/satellite?image=ir&hours=24#ir

Manmade development is generating heat atmospherically that is close to boiling temperature and once heat is generated it can not be destroyed.

 

I will remember that next time SKS gets attacked

 

What part of 'global' is everyone missing here?

Alaska - even if it WERE warming is what percentage of the planet?

 

As was shown, that claim was simply made up by the poster, like just about everything deniers claim. The NOAA weather station is not near the airport. Photos were posted from different camera angles that proved it.

 

Cook gets university permission to do a study to see the effect pro AGW and "denalist" comments have on readers cliamte understanding. The permission is given with the implicit understanding that the data will be real. Cook then proceeds to write fake comments in the names of well known skeptics. These comments are mind numbingly stupid and amount to a caricature. Having study participates read these fake comments that Cook was pretending came from real skeptics would undoubtedly result in the results Cook wanted.

Bottom line Cook faked his data.

 

This would be the issue



That one station in Barrow accounts for the entire north of the state. Outliers are bad enough but when an outlier is used as the only measurement for a large region in a regional average you have a huge fricking problem.

 

Great, lets ask your knuckle dragging brother in law something about science.

 

except that you have no evidence of that

or you can see it for yourself


Alaska is sinking due to permafrost

http://www.wdsu.com/video/the-weather-channel/alaska-is-sinking-due-to-permafrost/35098238?utm_source=Social&utm_medium=FBPAGE&utm_campaign=WDSU%20News&Content%20Type=Video

 

I have his fricking forum where he admits that he is writing skeptic comments himself. You dont get caught anymore red handed than that.

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You are still playing this bull(*)(*)(*)(*) lie. The Barrow station in the OP is off. You took pictures of another station 8km away and tried to pretend like it was the one in question. >>>MOD EDIT Flamebait Removed<<<

 

The only reason deniers call Barrow an outlier is because it does not fit their meme. Every one of the Alaska Climate Research Center's temperature stations are at airports, so if Barrow is worthless because it is on an airport, then all the other data is equally worthless.



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The Barrow station is not off, deniers don't like it because it contradicts their fantasies.

 

show me the quote where he admits that

 

Don't know much about Alaska do you. Most of those airports are dirt runways for prop planes. Barrow however is a major hub for industrial air freight supplying the Alaska North Slope oil fields. As such it has a major asphalt heated runway.

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I already gave it to you. Not my fault you are too damn lazy to read it.

 

you posted a link, i read what was posted in that forum, it turned out to be ridiculous