The migrant crisis in Europe

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  1. mister magoo

    mister magoo New Member

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    This is exactly what happens when liberal, socialist governments forget their own laws, borders, and national identity. And you're right, all these invaded countries do become dangerous, unstable, and headed for economic turmoil. The Germans are madder than hell about it, but they can't take a high-visibility stand because all the hyperlibs will start screaming that they're turning into Nazis again!

    Moreover, the ugly truth is that, deep down, more and more Europeans are thinking that it could be a very good thing if hordes of poor aliens come in and take crap-jobs making very little money. Then the native Europeans can simply retire, go on their own versions of national welfare, and stop working altogether. It is finally happening -- all of Europe is turning into another "Greece".
     
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    Sure, all of Europe is turning into another Greece, and by the end of 2015 there won't be any Europe at all. Ok, maybe not the end of 2015, but definitely mid 2016. And by laze 2016, the European continent has turned into one big caliphate.
    I'm always surprised and amused by yankee folks who live thousands of miles away, hardly read any European papers, probably rarely watch European news (not US news about Europe), hardly know any Europeans personally, have probably never visited Europe and seen the continent for themselves, yet they know precisely what's going on, what the problems are, how it all started and what needs to be done in order to get things right.

    Maybe the US should send some of their (self-proclaimed) experts over to Europe to sort things out.

    I also fail to see what this has to do with "liberal, socialist governments" You realize these two concepts, "liberal" and "socialist" are two different things in Europe.
    A liberal party would not call itself a socialist party and vice versa.
    Besides, many governments are conservative dominated.
     
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    I'm from Australia....I have some compassion for the poor....that's all I'm saying....
     
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    That is consequences of U.S. international policies.
    Very bad.
     
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    Why are all the white countries of the world experiencing this?
     
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    Absolutely nothing wrong with that.
    But since I replied to the "all Europe turning into another Greece" and "liberal, socialist governments" comment, I thought it would be clear that my reply was referring to the poster who used said statement.
    Perhaps I should have used the "quote" function to be really clear.
    Cheers
     
  8. Oliver King

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    The West indeed forgot about what national identity means.
    And their "goodness" works against them.
    Here no surprises for me ...
    Immigrants are looking for "easy money", most of them do not want to become a part of their "new home" ...
     
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    Yep.

    Visiting war upon all and sundry in their quest for dominance does mean the West has all but forgotten about sovereignty and national identities.

    Perhaps 'cynically and wilfully ignoring sovereignty and national identities' is a more apt description of the West's behaviour.

    A behaviour which directly brings drowned, bloated refugee children's bodies to European shores.
     
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    National identies? Well ... what identy has for example the USA as nation in detail? At least a mix of all European countries where immigrants came from + natives + Asia! Still remembering about the Irish immigrants and how they were threaten and handled in the past by the US people ... same worse as today the Hispano immigrants! Time changes, victims changes, but racial discrimination and hate on others stays!

    No, what Europe has not forgotten is humanity, compassion, social responsibility, Tolerance and helpfulness! Something what others have still forgotten in their nationalistic mind!
     
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    Not much interest in this thread...
    Sad isnt it....
    Americans only interested in what happens in America...
    I know.....the pennies dropped.....I didnt talk about violence, murder, rape, arson...
     
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    Compassion is not a workable solution. It is treating a symptom.

    First, part of the issue is Europe's own making. When times were good and they needed more workers, they brought in immigrants and now that the are paying out instead of taking in on the immigrant backs, they get sanctimonious about it. That is true most places though, including the US.

    Second, in addition to the workers brought in, Europe as well as other places are starting to directly or indirectly feel immigration pressure because of all the wars and turmoil in the Middle East. Yes feeding the immigrants and giving them basic services in the short term is the right thing to do, but until the situation back in their homelands are resolved, they are not leaving. If Europe wants to solve the problem, they need to tell the US to take a flying leap, go into the Middle East with their troops and their treasure, and pay that high price to force peace onto region. At this point, they need a modern version of Colonial Rule and the US would never do it because we are bought and paid for by Israel. We really are at the point that an invasion in which no parties currently in dispute will be the winner is the only winning option.
     
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    Fence not comin' up fast enough...
    :confusion:
    Frustrated migrants break through police lines in Hungary
    8 Sept.`15 | Dramatic scenes unfolded on the Hungarian-Serbian border Tuesday, as hundreds of frustrated migrants and refugees broke through police lines and ran from a holding area. Some parents carried children on their shoulders, struggling to make their way across the rough ground near Roszke in Hungary.
    See also:

    Migrants keep entering Hungary as work on fence speeds up
    Sep 8,`15 -- People anxious to pass through Hungary pushed and police shoved back as tensions mounted at Hungary's southern border with Serbia Tuesday.
     
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    Honestly ... I want to send all these Nazi idiots by parachute drop into ISIS controlled area and they they shall try to come back to their homeland. Will be interesting how much of this scum will survive and how much of the surviving one have still a brown brain.
    Even I hate ISIS the same way as Nazis, for something these ISIS bastards must be good and this is the only thing I think they are good for ... aside being targets for being bombed!
     
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    And to think, we are the one's who caused this; https://consortiumnews.com/2015/09/07/how-neocons-destabilized-europe/ Camerawoman kicking these poor people when they are down, hungry, and desperate. And the U.S. just sits back like they have nothing to do with it. It truly is disgusting. Watching that scum of a human being trip up that old man and then fall on the little boy, was about as low on the scale as you can get. And yet, we are directly responsible for this crisis, while turning the blind eye.
     
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    Oh boohoo. Who cares about some illegal being tripped. He was being chased, good for her. These aren't refugees, they are invaders.
     
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    That's exactly what they are. But add cowards to it as well.

    It's hysterical how migrants always seem to find the white countries and travel great lengths to get there.

    Looking at the map it was safer and closer if they went East.

    But us in the US know what their true intentions are after being abused by illegal immigrants ourselves for more than 2 decades.
     
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    How are they invaders?
     

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