Arctic Has Gained Hundreds Of Miles Of Ice The Last Three Years

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  1. HB Surfer

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    Arctic Has Gained Hundreds Of Miles Of Ice The Last Three Years

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    Red shows the September 2012 minimum extent. Green shows the current extent, which is likely the minimum for 2015. The Arctic has gained hundreds of miles of ice over the past three years, much of which is thick, multi-year ice.

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    So... are you Liberals going to believe Man Bear Pig, or your lying eyes? I'm totally cereal!

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    Not Al Gore, Jr.? How about the Nobel prize winning climate "experts"!

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    We are coming out of an ice age. The planet long term is likely warming, but when you none of your models are right, when your predictions are wrong consistently, normal people quite taking your seriously. Of concerns to people, Global Warming ranked.... near dead last. SEE GALLUP!

    Yet we have an inept President telling us it is the greatest concern! What a moron he must think his supporters truly are. The Gruber model is in affect.

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    You have to be pretty stupid to make this your focus.
     
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    The responses to this should be good. They'll blame the source, the data and the interpretation of that data. They'll say it's proof of global warming because the ice was "supposed" to melt and it didn't so what else could cause it to grow. They'll dance, two-step, and weave in and out, but in the end you probably won't get a response until MSNBC tells them what to say.
     
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    Your graph just got debunked by actual satellite images. Sorry.
     
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    prove it
     
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    Did you see the O.P. - lol... those are the actual satellite images overlay showing the growth of ice in the Arctic. You little graph has been debunked.
     
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    um...my graph confirms the info in the OP.

    Arctic Sea ice has grown in the last 3 years.

    but its still far from where it was in the 70s, 80s, and 90s.

    :)
     
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    Damn you for showing Artic Sea Ice Growth! What will the Global Warming people do?
     
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    What is it supposed to be?
     
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    Should have added this:

     
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    we're supposed to be in a cooling period, as per the Rostok ice core data and the Milankovitch Cycles.
     
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    no, how much sea ice is there "supposed" to be?
     
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    if the Earth is supposed to be in a cooling trend, that means today we should have on average MORE sea ice than in 1979.

    but instead, we have less.

    and less than in the 1980s.

    and less than in the 1990s.
     
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    Feed people a lie and tell them they're the "intelligent" ones for believing it.
     
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    Sea Ice =/= Land Ice. This thread is an utter fail.
     
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    You don't understand what you're showing. The graph obviously stopped at last year, you are showing this year, and you still further don't understand what you are showing, because the red line delineates the average extent for September, and the ice is way less than average. (Coincidentally supporting the graph you claim it debunks!) Even further, if the ice has extended in the last three years, then the most "multi-year ice" there can possibly be is three-year ice which isn't very multi.
     
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    Ice grows and melts, it's what it does.
     
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    yeah, but since 1979 its been melting more than its been growing.
     
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    Brother, knowing the "science" like you do, tell us, at the rate the ice is melting, when will it all be gone?
     
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    I'm not a political whore like Al Gore, so I'm not going to attempt to make such a guesstemation,
     
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    And just what exactly is "since 1979" worth in a Billions of year old planet??? Sounds like a good chunk of time to a being that lives 80 years on average...but it's a meaningless measure when you're talking planetary scale.
    If you stretched a line out that represented the Lifespan of the Planet....and then marked from 1979 to now with a red pen, it would be so insiginificant you wouldnt even see it.
     
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    we're supposed to be cooling, not warming.

    sea ice should be increasing, not decreasing.
     
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    the source you cited is a know science denier that has been debunked over and over

    and he was forced to make retractions, here's one of them:


    Steven Goddard writes: “Dr. Walt Meier at NSIDC has convinced me this week that their ice extent numbers are solid…. It is clear that the NSIDC graph is correct, and that 2008 Arctic ice is barely 10% above last year – just as NSIDC had stated.”

    http://reallysciency.blogspot.com/p/who-is-steven-goddard.html


    in reality, arctic sea ice has been declining for over 30 years


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    Steady decline, seasonal minimum approaching

    September 2, 2015

    "August saw a remarkably steady decline in Arctic sea ice extent, at a rate slightly faster than the long-term average. Forecasts show that this year’s minimum sea ice extent, which typically occurs in mid to late September, is likely to be the third or fourth lowest in the satellite record. All four of the lowest extents have occurred since 2007. In mid-August, Antarctic sea ice extent began to trend below the 1981 to 2010 average for the first time since November 2011.

    Overview of conditions

    Arctic sea ice extent for August 2015 was 5.61 million square kilometers (2.16 million square miles). The magenta line shows the 1981 to 2010 median extent for that month. The black cross indicates the geographic North Pole.


    Average sea ice extent for August 2015 was 5.61 million square kilometers (2.16 million square miles), the fourth lowest August extent in the satellite record. This is 1.61 million square kilometers (621,000 square miles) below the 1981 to 2010 average for the month, and 900,000 square kilometers (350,000 square miles) above the record low for August, set in 2012.

    The rapid pace of daily ice loss seen in late July 2015 slowed somewhat in August. The pace increased slightly toward the end of the month, so that by August 31 Arctic sea ice extent was only slightly greater than on the same date in 2007 and 2011. The ice is currently tracking lower than two standard deviations below the 1981 to 2010 long-term average.

    Sea ice extent remains below average in nearly every sector except for Baffin Bay and Hudson Bay, where some ice persists in sheltered coastal areas. A striking feature of the late 2015 melt season are the extensive regions of low-concentration ice (less than 70% ice cover) in the Beaufort Sea. A few patches of multi-year sea ice surrounded by open water remain in the central Beaufort Sea.
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    http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/
     
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    Says who?


    People who think they know what this planet is supposed to do...after studying for an eye blinks worth of time? lol....sure it is....
     

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