Girlfriend charged for encouraging boyfriend’s suicide: “You just have to do it”

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  1. Anders Hoveland

    Anders Hoveland Banned

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    You are trying to assign responsibility where it does not belong.
     
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    Interesting claim considering that you have not demonstrated that she has no responsibility...
     
  3. Songbird

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    That the girl can be charged with a crime is pathetic. She may be an evil nasty (*)(*)(*)(*)(*), but the laws have gone too far when she is criminally charged for encouraging him to kill himself. This is unfortunately the face of the bullying BS that is soon to cause even sillier legislative responses.
     
  4. JavisBeason

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    I'm so torn on this issue. While I do agree with your assessment of her personality..... what this case is setting up is where we, as a society, draws the line on free speech.


    Talking in a theater and giving away the ending..... jerk move...
    yelling fire in a theater..... not free speech

    The part that tears me on this one is if she's convicted for this, does that mean, when I tell someone in a college football forum that they should suckstart a shotgun when their team loses next week, and they do.... am I going to be arrested for it like this girl was.....

    I dang sure think there is a difference between trash talking and what she did, but by ruling it illegal to encourage suicides that eventually happen.... it opens up a lot of interpretations that take examples like what I said, out of context, and can ruin lives of people where the intent was clearly not the same as what this girl's intent was.
     
  5. Songbird

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    I'm with you, although not torn on it. I think it absurd that there is even the remote possibility of a statute under which she can be charged here. I don't care what she told him, or texted him. She could have called him the biggest loser that there ever was, and to stop jerking everyone around about off'ing himself and to just put us all out of our misery and do it !

    Now, whether or not she could be sued in civil court is an entirely different matter, and I think that there may be a basis for such, although I do not know that I would find her liable there either.
     
  6. JavisBeason

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    I hear what you're saying.... but, I can say to you "we're so broke, we should rob the fast food store I work at because I see how we'd have 3k in the drawers after lunch rush" or "our night drops have 8k in it on friday nights"


    but the moment I start planning it out with you, teaching you all the ins and outs of the resturant, or the night drop procedures at my store.... and you do it. Even if I'm not there when you do it... I'm still an accomplice.....


    if there ever was a line drawn about telling people to drink a 12gauge slurpee, and driving someone to the point where they off themselves.... she crossed it.



    on a civil matter.... I haven't even begun to think about that. I was just speaking of criminal liability.
     
  7. FreshAir

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    maybe he told her so often he was gonna kill himself that it became a ongoing joke, who knows, he killed himself, no one else killed him

    for all we know he would of killed him self much earlier if not for her....

    she was morally wrong imo, not criminally

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  8. JavisBeason

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    maybe the guy who robbed the fast food place was going to rob it anyways and it became an ongoing joke and I gave him inside information about the layout, when the manager left to make the drops, when the best time to rob him was. When does it cross the line of joking around, and become criminal to help?


    I understand noone physically forced that kid to kill himself.... but we, as a society, have lines to what constitutes an accomplice, etc, for all other crimes. Technically, Suicide attempt is a crime, so here we are.... in a moral dilemma.


    I support lines.... I just think lines are subjective.... and that can be dangerous the more serious the crimes are, or the political motivations in which people accuse you of being an accomplice
     
  9. liberalminority

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    I agree, this isn't the same as death with dignity as legal in some states.
     

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