Sept 16th CNN GOP Debate

You must have seen something in Paul that most others did not.

Really? This (below) is where it started and neither the poster, the candidate or myself are a drug addict, how dishonest of you to even say it, now back to whatever it was you wee doing:
"Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier8 View Post

Had to laugh. Fiorina said that the marijuana today is not the same as what Jeb smoked. That is true. She lost a family member to drug addiction and so have I. There is a problem and it does need to be addressed."

 

The current approach to solving this problem has not been very successful


Imo people say it is a problem
And say they want to solve it
So we have to keep doing the same thing that is not working

The war on drugs fixes the drug problem with the same effectiveness as abstinence only sex education fixes the problem of teen pregnancy

 

Correct.
With pot I simply want to see it decriminalized but I am sure the final outcome will be something along the lines of CO because Uncle Sam, in Washington and the State Houses, never saw a sin they did not want to Tax the you know what out of, it will be all about $$$.

As for the hard drugs I would prefer they remain illegal but the punishments changed to therapy for users. I would like to see better education and more movements to make it less acceptable among the young and within society, but it is a complicated issue but believe if we Really wanted to we could deal with the issue.

 

LOL please. If Joe Biden went all Muhammed Ali on Hillary Clinton, and said "She's too ugly to be president the President should be pretty like me.". I'm willing to bet they would bring it up.

 

I tried the california medical pot plan
Turns out i was not interested

And it seemed ckear to me that few people there really had a medical problem
So it was an indirect way to legalize pot

BUT
it seened to me so much superior to skulking around with drug dealers
A pot disoensary will only sell you pot
No attempt to upsell to other drugs
And the whole environment is healthier
The same way that ending prohibition has not solved alchoholism
But has removed the criminality of the alchol business

 

She also turned me off with her extreme RW chest pounding about using military might to shape the world.
She did a lot of pandering, IMO.

 

That's what I laugh at. People who couldn't even feign objectivity if you paid them pretending like anyone cares what they think about a Republican anything. They'll be voting for the welfare and illegal alien party forever, regardless of who runs or the issues being discussed.

 

Neurosurgeons are a different breed of surgeons , I have never worked with one who didn't have an exceptional bedside manner with his or her patient, pediatric neurologist surgeons even more exceptional

 

Trump definitely was silenced and brought down a few times. Its pretty clear that he has such a large following because of the fact that he almost never shuts up and now that he has shut up and isn't pushing his big issues as much I expect a large section of his following to dessert to other candidates.

 

Just amazing. Another mindless outburst of tired left wind talking points…..

Hillary knew from the beginning that what happened in Benghazi was a purposeful terrorist attack, on the anniversary of 9/11. It's indisputable. But what did Hillary proceed to do?? She publicly pandered a fictitious story about a video triggering a spontaneous uprising. Hilary and BHO fabricated a story to protect their collective rear ends.

Nobody says it better than Fiorina. You can watch Fiorina take Chris Matthews apart when he pressed her on the Benghazi question:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...ry_on_benghazi_server_planned_parenthood.html

BTW, did I miss where Hillary apologized for misleading the public for her Benghazi explanation?? Or does that simply fall under "What difference does it make??"

 

Scott Walker is losing ground rapidly. Trump definitely lost some ground and was weakened by the debate. Fiorina did great in the debate and will likely get the most out of it. Carson probably gained the 2nd most, after Forinia. After that the only ones who would likely get any boost at all are Rubio and Paul, probably in that order, too.

he really is. I've laughed during both debates b/c of the dumb crap he's said. It's even funnier than when Sanders talks

 

Fiorina did great. Whether that converts to support is another question.

Carson seemed half awake and distracted.

Rubio is staging himself perfectly as the VP candidate. Fast. Sharp. No hesitation. Good balance.

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What drug addicts?

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Her response about her child's death is the one moment I didn't care for. Her daughter did NOT die from illegal drugs. Rather, her 35 year old daughter died by taking too many PRESCRIPTION pain killers. Possibly with pot she wouldn't have needed the painkillers. People don't OD on pot.

She was VERY deceptive implying this had to do with marijuana or illegal drugs. Trying to use your own child's death to gain political points by a false representation is not to be congratulated.

 

Fiorina did what Joe Biden does. Try to use the death of a family member(s) by telling a lie to make a point.

Fiorina's daughter did NOT die from illegal drugs.

Joe Biden has claimed his first wife and a child of his was was killed by a drunk driver more than once. This is an absolute lie. His wife ran a stop sign in front of a truck.

Biden's 1st wife killed by drunk driver?
Comment: To call Senator Biden pitiful is an understatement. For anyone to try to
win votes by lying about his wife & baby dying is a disgrace. Twice he
told the story how his family was killed by a drunken truck driver in New
Jersey in 1972. He is trying to get sympathy votes. The true stoty is his
wife failed to stop at a redlight/stoplight & got hit broadside by a
truck.

The truck drivers family is infuriated by his statement. ( the
driver passed away in 1999 ) The district attorney in NJ has provided
court documents totally exonerating the truck driver, stating the truck
driver was in no way responsible for the crash & no alcohol was present.
To lie about the death of someone, for your own gain is lower than low.
Just an example of what politician will stoop to to get elected.

 

Once again, Carly Fiorina really impressed me. I agree with you that Kasich did very well for himself, too.

However, the things that really struck me the most were the awful excuse for "moderation" and many of the ridiculous questions that were posed to Trump's opponents, particularly early in the debate. After this and the Candy Crowley I don't know why the Republican Party should even consider participating in a debate involving CNN and its hacks. What should have been an opportunity for Americans to find out more about the candidates was turned into a blatant hatchet job against Trump and the GOP. The network deliberately turned the debate into a circus, and they did the public a major disservice in the process.

 

Technically you can but the dose is 75lb in an hour. Not really something to worry about.

 

For the most part I agree with your assessment, however I was terribly disappointed with Rand Paul's performance. While I did not watch the entire debate, I have to say that I'll be surprised if he gets any boost out of it.

 

Thanks for (NOT) providing a link.

This was debated back in 2007. The truth is that in 1972 they did not routinely test for DUI after a fatality like they do today. I don't fault any politician for having a particular bias based on personal experiences. It will be a plus for some, and negative for others. It's what makes them human.

Exploitation is a harsh word that requires a much higher threshold than merely mentioning it as part of their political thinking.

 

That was just absurd. "Rebuild our Military" What a joke. She is talking like Trump .. promising the world without a clue how she will keep such a promise.

Total Military Spending is currently over 1 Trillion per year. Income is 3.1 Trillion = 30% What are we going to raise this to 2 Trillion ? And this is going to somehow make us more secure.

Secure from what ? Who is this big bogie man we are all so scared of. Where is this army that is going to invade ?

What are the Chinese doing ? Cutting military. Why .. because with nukes there is little to be scared of.

Russia is currently helping Syria out. Why ? Because they are allies and that is what allies do. If we hadn't been giving arms to extremist Islamic groups such as Al Qaeda, Al Nusra and ISIS this crisis in Syria would not be where it is and neither would ISIS.

"I just would not talk to Putin" That's her solution ..."The silent treatment" ? Perhaps that works with her husband but doubtful it will do much good against Putin.

 

This is not a referendum on the host of the debate. Keep in mind, in years gone by, there were far fewer debates. Now with the advent of cable media, they have the clout to conduct them, so with almost 23 million viewers, there was obviously an interest. They didn't turn it into a "circus" anymore than the campaigns already have, so they're just going with the flow.

The official debates between the two parties is another ball of wax altogether. Don't compare these to those.

 

Like I said, I think in a different post in earlier in this thread, Paul mostly did quite well but he just ended up sounding whiny on a few points asking "can I respond... can I respond... can I respond..." all during one other person's time. But on the issues, and apart from a few bad points like I just mentioned, I think Paul did well and will get some boost from it.

 

Nice, they dont actually have to work to make you forget all the stupid crap they said, you do it for them .

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No perscription drugs, so using her dead child as a prop in an argument is quite despicable.But nothing all the rest wouldnt do.

 

100% agree.

The Daily News appropriately labeled CNN = Clown News Network. Candy Crowley inappropriately (and dishonestly) saving Obama from Romney should have been enough. I doubt CNN will get another chance.

 

The Fact Checkers are having a field day with some of her comments:

http://www.vox.com/2015/9/16/9342761/carly-fiorina-debate

Her comments in relation to Putin consisted of mindless pandering.

Total Military spending is now over 1 Trillion, roughly 30% of our 3.1 Trillion in revenue, but she wants to Rebuild the Military. What ? Is spending 2 Trillion going to make us more secure ?

Secure from what ? Who is this army we are scared of that is threatening to storm our gates ? Brain dead nonsense.

 

It may not be, but it absolutely could be. Trump has been pretty masterful at knowing how far he could go and how far he could push things, and I noticed a much more toned down Trump for this debate. However what he needed to do is up his game in discussing policy, particularly foreign policy. Rubio is a first term senator and Carly Fiorina has only met foreign leaders through business trips, but they both have been well prepped and coached and sounded like they knew what they were talking about. Trump didn't show any particular foreign policy knowledge. Saying he can deal with Putin is not explaining that you know what Putin wants and this is it.

A more longer version of that here, but Trump has to be able to talk policy or his numbers are going to start to decline.