Only potheads are pro-legalization of weed

You are a drug free person? Ever drink caffeine, take tylenol, sleeping pills? Almost no one is a drug free person. And once again, using your logic, tobacco should also be illegal, it costs lots of money, and just ends up going up in smoke. Anything else we should make illegal Mr. Nanny State?

 

It's reality. Many people do drugs recreationally, with no issues. Many get hooked and ruin their lives. But for everyone who ruins their lives, there's probably 10 who don't. Those 10 should not be punished for the 1 that does.

 

I'm NOT saying there is a positive to ingesting crack. I'm saying that the use of crack is "less worse" than the laws prohibiting it. Our laws created the cartels, who use bullets as opposed to lawyers to settle disputes. I think it's the "lesser of two evils" to allow legitimate businesses, who use lawyers instead of bullets to settle disputes, to handle the demand that exists. Said demand WILL be filled by someone.

 

"only pot heads are pro legalization of marijuana". No. Those of us for individual rights also support its legalization. And why should marijuana be illegal when much more deadly drugs are legal and the government making billions of dollars off those selling and using them, i.e. alcohol and tobacco. If you are going to legalize alcohol and tobacco there is no reason not to legalize marijuana. Marijuana causes less aggressive behavior, less car accidents, less health disease than alcohol.

That is a fact. And, if you email the Surgeon General of the U.S. and ask for links to studies specifically on the effects of marijuana use, they will reply that their virtually are none as most studies are on alcohol and marijuana combined. And independent studies financed by the u.s. government show marijuana has less effect on society than does alcohol. No subsidized study claims Marijuana use has ill effects on ones health or society as a whole. Check it out if you doubt what I am saying.

Do you drink alcohol? Do you smoke tobacco or cigars? All of which are deadly drugs and have a major impact on the cost of health care.

So make alcohol and tobacco illegal if you don't want to legalize marijuana. OOPS, we already tried that and it didn't work so good, it causes illegal sales of alcohol and more crime. Get the picture?

 

Ok I understand. 1 stupid person drives while high and kills someone, you blame all people who smoke weed.

So I am sure you want to ban guns because they are used to harm people as well.

 

Sorry I dont do archaic posts.

 

I don't smoke pot and I'm all for the legalization of drugs.... Government has no right to tell me what I can and cant ingest... Beyond the liberty factor - legalizing drugs would put an end to gangs and cartels - hence the violence...

 

I am actually anti-use of marijuana.
However my anti-stance is not my social stance. I do believe the laws should be decriminalized.

My anti-stance on marijuana is just my personal stance. I don't care if it is legal or not. I will not do it. I have contempt towards it to be quite honest. I saw the effects from that and other drugs on people that mean and some that meant a lot to me so I am not an open minded person on recreational use or 'professional' use.
However this shouldn't extend to how I view the relation between the law and the people. I simply avoid it like it is the plague. The smell of it makes me angry. Doesn't mean I should force my neighbor to by convincing them to vote for John Doe to impose the idea of a lack of decriminalization of pot users.

The fact that our laws against marijuana seem nothing more than a waste of economic resources, waste law officials time and no pot smoker should be in the same facility let alone the same cell as a rapist or a murderer. It will not counter drug dealers because regulation means taxation and drug dealers can always lower the price than the regulated price whether if it is legal or not. I would gladly support legislation that decriminalizes pot users to the same status as alcohol users and that allows corporations the same freedoms to regulate employment in the same manner as with alcohol or let's say cigarettes(I put cigarettes because I know of a manufacturing company that bans the use of cigarettes to be employed through that corporation).

The only issue I see is measuring it in regards to the amount allowed for say safe driving. As someone who is not involved in the science of being able to distinguish what legal amounts that are applicable to safe driving, I would gladly support banning any use while operating an automobile.

 

Right here. I've tried pot twice and had an extremely bad reaction both times. I do not smoke pot, and I'll never smoke pot again. However, I'm 100% supportive of legalizing it, and I see no rational justification for making it illegal.

 

I'd like to see the government open drug centers with unlimited supplies of free pot, coke, heroin, LSD, etc. Let the druggies check in, overdose, and then we're rid of them. Kind of like those "roach motels".

 

There is SO much that really should change where government nosiness is concerned. Get them out of the marriage business (that only began after the Civil War with "emancipation," legislation that actually subjected all Americans to federal powers in new ways), get them out of our wallets, and get them by and large out of businesses, especially where local government can handle matters entirely.

I think the IRS-enforced, forced income tax needs to go, too. I would like to see government voluntarily funded (power to the people!), better yet with each agency and program being supported separately. Those of us who want to fund NASA can fund NASA, those who want to fund our giant imperial military can fund that, etc.

 

I smoked weed once when I was a teen. Was in the military and still to this day get random drug screenings in my job. I don't do drugs. I don't even like taking prescription pills unless it's for serious pain (even then I don't like it).

Arresting potheads is about as smart as arresting someone smoking a Marlboro or drinking a Redbull.

If people want to ruin their prospects of ever finding gainful employment by being drug addicts, hey more work for me.

 

Then don't do it but to try and tell another what they can do is a pretense of somehow claiming the right to be "GOD" and proclaiming the rights of another.

I would rather look at the issue from a standpoint of freedom than slavery.

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Then why do you hang out with those that seem to be in opposition to what you believe. Seems totally illogical to me.

 

So you've never been in New Orleans in Preservation Hall listening to some great Jazz....

 

If they had known whom they were sitting next to I'm sure they would have chosen a better spot. But did you say something or just sit there and enjoy?

 

Sorry I dont do ancient threads.

 

Then why did you bring it up as part of this discussion as answer to another reply?

 

Which reply?

 

Only potheads are pro-legalization of weed

I disagree as there are several other groups with an interest:

Pothead idiots are clearly there.
Users and dealers of harder drugs, because they know pot is a gateway drug, thus there will be more mindless morons for their section of the market.
Some left wing morons who think it's some sort of right to get off your head, endangering others with your stupidity.

Some in the medical profession who see pot as a legitimate drug for use in some medical cases.
This I absolutely agree with, but the pot idiots twist that possible legitimate use by claiming their head twisting stuff is the same as medical marijuana (THC Vs, CBD).
The former gets idiots high, whilst the latter is of great medical use, but you could use it all day without a single ping elephant appearing.
The drug puddled morons neglect to mention that.

 

Thank you for playing but you have failed to qualify to move on to the next round.

 

Mmmkay. Im hurt that I wont be able to discuss year old threads with the noobs.

 

OP is completely false.

I do not take weed nor do I take any other drug except alcohol and I am 100% for it's legalization. The fact is we have tobacco and alcohol legal when tobacco causes lung cancer and heart disease and alcohol causes cancer to the liver as well as enables violence to a certain degree depending on who drinks yet weed has never caused any of these things. You can't get addicted or OD on weed, it's impossible. Then you have the medical benefits of the drug and it makes you wonder what compassionate person wouldn't at least legalize medical marijuana for those who are in chronic pain every day.

There is no reason for it not to be legal other than government essentially dictating to us what we should be allowed to put in our bodies.

 

I wonder if there is a way to use punishment to discourage it, without using harsh and severe punishment (the type that is currently being used). Because I think harsh and severe punishment is morally wrong here.

What type of society have we become when we invent crimes that are not morally wrong and then lock people in prison for many years? If it's all for the greater "public good", then I think government and society have lost their moral compass.

Ron Paul has some excellent points on this topic, and he is a very moral and virtuous person, by the way.

 

I wonder what your view on decriminalization and it's effectiveness is.

In addition to your points there is also the fact that the prisons cells are being filled with people being charged for drug use which is allowing violent criminals to be released early ahead of their scheduled prison time to make room for other criminals. By at least decriminalizing weed and other drugs, a proportion of the prison population would be cut due to those being in prison for strictly drug use which would mean violent criminals should be able to serve most if not all their time whilst allowing more violent criminals to be put away.

Legalization of Marijuana would be even better because the money raised through it being sold legally and taxed can be used for more beneficial means including investment in drug education and rehabilitation centers like what is happening in Colorado.

 

By what right does man have to punish another? That is purely a slave function, bestowing one's prohibitions on another as a piece of property. I believe any punishment, not just harsh or severe is sociopathic, morally wrong.

Only nature and nature's laws have the right to punish that which is against nature. After all, after copping a buzz and then listening to Yanni and enjoying is natures punishment for leaving reality. Sort of goes with the Winston Churchill and Lady Astor exchange:

But then the world condones alcohol which causes much more controversy, not that it should ever again be prohibited, just pointing out the total idiocy of the whole affair.