Woman gets more sucked out than she bargained for

some women even go crazy after child birth, remember Andrea Yates

again the women taking the risk should make the choice

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How many abortions are there post 12 weeks - not many

The vast majority of abortions occur before 8 weeks

And abortion is safer than pregnancy

 

How is your research progressing?

 

anecdotal evidence is not evidence of anything. It is strange that you say that suicide is not capable of research yet you cite research in support of the bill you are supporting .. research that is highly suspect.

What research can provide is pointers to who are more likely to attempt or commit suicide, strange that all the reliable research shows that those most likely to commit or attempt to commit suicide after an abortion are those with pre-existing mental issues, just as it shows the same for women who have given birth.

 

There will be almost none after the Supreme Court finds Arkansas Act 301 in compliance with the intentions of Roe. Limiting artificial abortion of gestation to the first 12-weeks will save lives. The law will not prevent a single artificial abortion of gestation but will require this occur before 12-weeks. There is a current exception for rape/incest but this exception will eventually be removed.

ARTIFICIAL abortion of gestation is ABSOLUTELY NOT safer than childbirth.[sup]7[/sup]
"Death from abortion after 20 weeks is greater than death from live birth"[sup]1[/sup]

 

This has already been taken to pieces as it is based on suspect research .. you will fail.

Again disputed research that has questionable methodology.

http://unmfamilyplanning.pbworks.com/w/file/fetch/82184965/The Comparative Safety.pdf

 

Why do you obsess over abortion? I doubt it affects you personally.

And, it's definitely a net positive for society, especially as the global population continues to rise and the only alternatives to abortion are birth control and abstinence, both of which obviously fail quite often.

 

Which is a natural death. Not some sloppy hamfisted attempt at a medical procedure.

 

What were you addressing?

""""Quote Originally Posted by FoxHastings View Post

Women die in childbirth....want to ban it?


I know a guy died of a knee operation ....they still have knee operations.....did you have a point?""""

 

He gave consent.

 

Sorry, I still don't get your point, could you explain?

 

Is it?? Caesarean sections are also a medical procedure and carry very high risk of death

 

Oh! but you have quoted 'lifenews' - yeah that is an unbiased site - NOT!!

Try an UNBIASED site like the CDC or WHO?

http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs348/en/

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Not remotely possible. Act 301 is the replacement for Roe constructed by millions of citizens with an insurmountable plethora of experiences and beliefs. Nine judges did their best to use American laws to respect the dignity of pregnant women in a corporate American regime just vicariously recognizing human dignity exists as a fundamental human right far more sacred than "free speech".

In our broken United States (which I love), money talks, votes, and buys Representatives, Senators, and now even Presidents. Pro-Choice and Pro-life factions will both agree with my Petition to an extent though both being forced to accept the obvious each tries to research away. Only two more judges need to agree and make the vote unanimous.
The replacement for Roe must be unanimous.
4/5, 3/6, 2/7 and even 1/8 are failures. Anything less than unanimous is a failure in my opinion.
This petition will not fail. I, however, may fail to adequately educate America's citizens regarding the sovereignty the "United States of America" surrendered to the corporate American regime without firing a shot.

Agreed. No research concerning abortion of gestation has been done other than statistical manipulations attempting to support Pro-Gestation or Pro-Abortion. Thank you for the "research" besides the other "research" I have obtained. I will include these in exhibits.

Abortions of gestation prior to 12-weeks are safe, healthy treatments for sperm infestations. Gestation is clearly a hazard to female health. Pregnancies are parasitic infestations which will mature to become another person but kill the female host if not safely expelled. Second or third trimester abortions of gestation are often, if not are usually, counter to Roe's holding with respect to maternal health considering the right to privacy is wholly voided such that no "private choice" remains once pregnancy is obvious to the public.

FWIW. In regards to the OP: ALL human pregnancies are abdominal. I regret any mature human injury. Abortions of gestation injuries all suck. Celebrating an injury of another is immoral and does not respect the dignity of human life beginning when heartbeats are audible to the public.

 

I have no extremest friends but you are deluding yourself to think the respect for human dignity will not come from Arkansas' Act 301 and Edwards v Beck.

I believe this raped child should be immediately treated or offered treatment that stops all gestation and this should be provided by the State of Arkansas. The choice should remain for 12-weeks and be cost-free.

Oh, yes ma'am. I will address this position well enough in my Petition. You will probably agree with my position. The Supreme Court addressed your belief in Roe already. The choice remains the WOMAN'S regardless of law(s). Babies and young children will expire without regular assistance. Please try to relax, we are not far apart. We are already on the same planet.

 

most of the above just comes over as some incoherent rant, the reality of the matter is that your bill was pulled apart by a person (me) who is not even a lawyer, it will be decimated in court .. you attempted to use the protection of the female argument before and that, again, was pulled to pieces, as can be plainly seen in the thread you created - http://www.politicalforum.com/abort...01-12-week-time-limit-aborting-gestation.html

That is a pile of horse crap

and this has no bearing what so ever, whether the public knows or not the choice still remains private, and no abortions during 2nd and 3rd trimester are not counter to Roe's holding .. you are, yet again attempting to use disputed research as your basis for your assertion. Roe does not even define a private choice in it's decision, the decision was based on the due process clause and the right to privacy, whether the public know or not does not change a persons right to privacy.

 

Your words: """Limiting artificial abortion of gestation to the first 12-weeks will save lives. The law will not prevent a single artificial abortion of gestation but will require this occur before 12-weeks. There is a current exception for rape/incest but this exception will eventually be removed.

 

Let us start with

WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK GETS AN ABORTION AFTER 20 "WEEKS?

Don't tell me - let me guess

You believe there are women out there who get to the 32nd week and want an abortion so they can fit into a bathing suit

Do you know who in reality does get an abortion at 20 weeks

The woman with the choice of dying now or aborting

The woman who has just been told that the baby/babies she is carrying are dead or dying

The woman who as just learnt that her baby does not have a brain and will only live a few short minutes

That is who

Are you going to dictate that those women cannot have a termination of pregnancy?

 

You REALLY feel as though you pulled apart anything besides your own self-defense mitigation argument? Try adjusting the "research" about "dangerous" childbirth to exclude all c-sections or high-risk gestations and only include similar age groups and consider only post 12-week abortions of gestation.

I will not appear at SCOTUS unless asked to present. I will mirror every brief filed and the oral argument for free online. The Earth's public will be the jury. SCOTUS and "America" are both on trial in my opinion regardless of Article III. Just watch.

Abortions of gestation are not accurately recorded in "America" by the CDC or anyone else. Yes; This remains a fatal injury to any intellectual debate based on fact. This factual fatality was planned carefully.

The right to privately decide whether to continue gestation or to abort gestation has numerous competing interests to consider. These all change which is the controlling interests making the private "right to choose" be subservient to other rights. Just watch.

 

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Rape and incest should not extend or waive the 12-week period. These crimes are already covered by the exception made for he health of the mother. This health includes the psychological health of the mother and guardian of a minor.

 

I would not oppose these abortions of gestation and Act 301 doesn't either.
I did not write this law but voted for it and will defend it from confused judges.

 

None of this is remotely necessary.

 

Why wouldn't you oppose those abortions?

What IS your objection to abortion? The fact that women have the power to choose whether to have one or not?

 

Aborting gestation in these cases preserves the dignity of the female by not continuing to induce unwarranted physical and mental stress. A dying fetus or person without a brain has no dignity to violate.

I have the same objection to artificial abortion of gestation after 12-weeks as I have for objecting to the death penalty. The detectable human life (heartbeat) should not be interrupted by another human. A detectable human heartbeat within a pregnant woman is secondary to this woman's dignity. There is no date like "viability" or (12-weeks) to consider because the dignity of the pregnant woman has first priority. "America" does not yet consider human dignity but the United States soon will when replacing Roe and starting to replace corporate "America".