Why push for a ban on semi-automatic rifles?

You brought the subject and now want to say it is a non-issue. You say you did not see a question I asked yet that is all my first post was and my second asked another and you never bothered to answer either, Noted. Seems like you are the one obsessing, am I correct in saying this is not the first time you have started a thread in the same basic premise, should I do some looking? It is not me obsessed on the topic, but since there is no push to outlaw all AR's I would say it you that seems to be obsessed. Clue, go out and buy what you feel you need, not what you thing may or may not be banned someday, I and most I know have done exactly that and not because someone scared us into doing so.

 

Since no gun law will ever stop murderers, an outright ban is the eventual goal of every anti-gunner regardless of how they word their lies.

 

Wouldn't a sane crime fighter be more concerned about having HALF OR MORE OF THE MURDERS in their urban wastelands gone unsolved? Are you more obsessed about whether the 9mm round that killed the little girl on the playground came from a thug's stolen 9mm revolver or the thug's stolen 9mm semi-auto rifle?

I'd be worried about taking out the thug that pulled the trigger. But that's just me, ya know.

 

and the goal of gun extremists is to keep it very easy for criminals to get guns, so that gun dealers stay happy and blacks & hispanics keep killng each other.

 

Rifle-caliber handguns are pretty bulky, and really not practical for crime. I have a single shot handgun chambered for the .30-30 cartridge. It weighs 4 lbs, and is 18 inches long.

There are a few pistol caliber rifles but they are fairly rare. They are the same size as rifle caliber rifles, so most people (sportsman and criminals) don't bother with them.

 

Right, we all have meeting to discuss this "goal". Don't be ridiculous.

 

Where did I say I would relinquish any firearms?

You are obsessing over a non-issue. Notice my use of three sentences instead of a paragraph.

 

Gun ownership advocates show you evidence demonstrating the gun prohibitionists agenda, you call us paranoid.

Then, you provide a conspiracy theory in which the gun extremists just want hispanics and blacks to continue killing each other.

Are we supposed to take this seriously?

 

Do you realize Ron that in many circles YOU are a gun extremist because you own a gun?

Even if we sit around high-fiving each other over putting weapons into the hands of minorities, are we also forcing them to pull the triggers?

You could air drop me an arsenal, it isn't going to make me kill anyone.

Why are these people so hateful and murderous?

Here's the thing Ron. We have more than enough laws in this country to put people in jail for illegal usage or ownership of firearms. WE DO NOT PROSECUTE THEM. We have a system that enables background checks to catch them. WHEN THEY ARE CAUGHT, THEY ARE NOT PROSECUTED.

This governments agenda is not about stopping crime or criminals. If it were, they could certainly do it. This is the same reason the war on drugs continues, because the government benefits from it. Why do you think the Obama administration has been raiding LEGAL marijuanna dispensaries to shut them down? Because the government wants to be the primary drug dealers.

Liberals want more crime, they want criminals on the streets with guns, they want you afraid. This fear tactic is used to drive justifications for MORE gun laws towards eventual ban.

The 2A is the biggest threat to these people that effectively want us in chains. THAT is why there is so much effort to disarm us, because without an armed populace they can do anything they want.

 

silly conspiracy theories

 

Again with your selective quoting of things you don't want to address. Is that conspiracy too?

Here you go Ron:


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/24/dea-raid-medical-marijuana-los-angeles_n_6038926.html

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-santa-ana-pot-raid-policy-lawsuit-20150615-story.html

http://abc7.com/news/marijuana-dispensary-patients-sue-santa-ana-over-police-raid/786882/

Was fast and furious a conspiracy too?

Bottom line Ron, if they want to stop gun related crime, why are they not prosecuting it and instead ENCOURAGING it?

Fast and Furious is the tip of the iceberg. Who knows how many FFLs out there are being forced under gag order to sell arms to cartels and criminals.

 

too bad Republicans refuse to give ATF the funds and personnel they need to do their job

 

You mean these guys?:

http://cleanupatf.org/mission.html

They shouldn't exist at all actually.

 

If even the Newtown incident did not yield the desirable results, it is questionable if there will ever be a serious enough mass murder to build sufficient public support for such a move.

 

Prove such to be fact.

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Why should the ATF be given anymore funding when they cannot stop getting involved in scandals where they violate the law?

 

The GOP controlled a sizable portion of the House and Senate, that was our only saving grace on the Federal level.

Look at the legislation pushed on Democratically controlled states.

 

Who cares if they're scary? Who cares if hands result in more or less deaths? These are just more red herrings from gun nuts.

Guns are used in gun violence and this fact can't be deflected with talk about swimming pools, poison, scariness, hands, feet or any other irrelevant argument.

I wonder how many semi-automatic rifles the shooter had at this weeks school shooting. I wonder how he obtained them and got them onto the campus. Laws aren't being enforced.

 

Might be a good start enforcing what you have before thinking up some more, don't you think?

 

Nor can the fact that hands/feet and blunt/bladed objects do a lot more killing than rifles be deflected by gun grabbers.

Just admit you don't care how many people die, you only care how many people die to guns.

 

Yeah, the Oregon killer should have use his feet instead of rifles, because you seem to think one is as deadly as the other.

With few exceptions, guns are designed to be lethal. No amount of spin can change this fact.

 

Are the deaths from the Oregon shooting more important than the deaths were someone gets beaten to death?

Are the lives saved from being armed less important?

Taking guns away from people that use them to defend themselves also creates deaths. More deaths in fact.

No amount of spin can change the fact that AR type weapons cause far fewer deaths than being beaten to death.

The focus on the weapon used does nothing to prevent people killing other people.

Until such time the effort becomes to identify and stop criminals and the insane, the killings will continue. No amount of spin will change that fact either.

 

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Thank you for that. Now, about those drugs. This is what I want to see:
Follow the money. Huge shipments of drugs arrive at the US border every minute of every single day. "Someone" hands over giant sums of money, and those drugs enter America. From there, the quantities are broken down, and at every point of transfer, money changes hands.
All of these transfers are "covered" by paying off Gov. employees and elected officials. All of them.
Until the people who claim to run this Country make an honest effort to expose and prosecute every single one of them, the drugs will continue to flow to the ghettos, and our National murder rate will be sustained.
The big catch here is that once we prosecute the corruption out of our Gov., the way is made for the real responsible Americans to actually enact sensible remedies to the other problems.
As long as we are ruled by the corrupt, no progress is possible.

 

How many semi-automatic rifles did he have? Why does it matter? Is someone incapable of doing things with one firearms?

 

No one has argued otherwise. Look around and you will find many commonly available items that either have a lethal design, or can be converted to lethal capabilities with very little effort.