Point? I was trying to figure out what point you were trying to make with all the clairvoyant predictions.
There is a reason minors are minors. Parent / Guardians need to be held culpable for the crimes of their minors. I mean how can a Parent / Guardian NOT know their minor is collecting guns. This is not blood libel. It is about why we have Parent / Guardian types and when they fail society; society should hold them accountable for their failures. What part don't I have correct. If such legal enforcement were more common, crazy kids would be better controlled. Or turn them in to Child Services claiming you cannot meet the responsibilities with crazy kid. Parent / Guardians doing nothing is criminal and should be so treated when their minor causes harm. Moi r > g View attachment 38368 Across an immense, unguarded, ethereal border, Canadians, cool and unsympathetic, regard our America with envious eyes and slowly and surely draw their plans against us.
I don't see how they're as much clairvoyant as just common sense And the most important point that I was trying to make is that the little girl is dead for no reason whatsoever, and nobody will really be punished in any way equivalent to what they did. Are you denying this, or just trying to obfuscate that fact?
The crux of this matter is how does an 11yo kid have the mens rea to commit murder... Answer...his upbringing and his environment....that is what needs to change....
road rage kills too, but we don't ban cars we do though try to keep children from driving cars... because cars can be a deadly weapon too .
It's a Federal felony to buy a gun across state lines, including DC, without an FFL involved. - - - Updated - - - Fortunately we have the 2nd Amendment that says the right to defend yourself and family is a right, not a privilege. Felons can't buy a gun legally. Brush up on the law a bit. That's the biggest problem with gun grabbers, they don't have the first clue about what the existing laws are.
I don't wish to be trite but there's no point in talking about it. Unless all guns are removed (an impossible dream, of course!) this kind of thing will never end.
It's a spot on comparison. Well, maybe not, driving is not a right enshrined in the Constitution. It's hard to define a car as a defensive weapon.
It annoys me when gun nuts use this what-if scenario tactic as if it makes an argument. Here is a what-if scenario for you... what if the little girl didn't die by a gun? Of course we can't answer that because the fact of the matter is that she did die by a gun. Did you even re-read your own post and actually contemplate what you're saying? In all of those scenarios there might have been a sliver of hope that the girl could still be alive. Even just a sliver. Because all of those alternatives take effort which might just buy the 11-y-o boy enough time to think about what it is he is about to do But no, its a gun. You pull a trigger and somebody is DEAD. Irrespective of if its a toddler or a terrorist... you pull that trigger and somebody is dead... there is no undo trigger... there is no buying time to think about your action... there is just death. Meanwhile you clowns just leave your guns around for kids to pick up like its some toy. You delude yourselves into teaching your kids "how to handle guns safely" NEWSFLASH - You forgot to tell them what happens to their 8-y-o friend when they safely pull the trigger. And then you gun nuts have the gall to say that the gun is not to blame? Who are you blaming then? the 11-y-o kid? Is he a terrorist? Another mass shooter? Did he pre-meditate killing his 8-y-o friend? Get a grip you gun nuts! Wake up America!
There are laws and regulations to prevent drinking and driving. There are no laws/regulations against stupid people with guns. WELCOME TO THE CONVERSATION...:omg: How can someone actually own a gun and not know the destructive power of one?
What are you suggesting? That we ban puppies? Ban 11 year old boys? Good God Almighty, make some sense!
Rubbish...guns were made to kill...motor vehicles are not.... - - - Updated - - - No. This post should be removed as flamebait... - - - Updated - - - I am still waiting for someone to tell me how an 11yo kid acquires the mens rea to murder....
Yep, that's why police carry guns and don't have motor vehicles on their belt. It's also why law abiding citizens keep guns on their person, cars are damn hard to carry for self defense. Guns are made to kill, and they are portable, which is why they protect so many people. That's why the Constitution says the right of the people to carry arms shall not be infringed. The Constitution doesn't say the right to have a car, or horse carriage, shall not be infringed. Personal defense is an inalienable right.
Guns, guns guns, guns and guns. As I posted earlier this wasn't an issue just 40 - 50 years ago. Deal with the fact that we are raising young people that have no concept of morals and right and wrong. Wait until the children that were born drug addicted start to grow up, you talk about the possibility of a real Sht storm hitting. Woweee.....
And nobody can say we didn't see it coming. Lack of discipline. Lack of parental guidance. Hell, lack of parents, period. Dan Quayle was right!
It annoys me when people use the death of a child to bolster their opinion, when they wouldn't otherwise care about said child. We wouldn't know about this girls death if she had been killed in any other fashion. If you weren't emotional, like the OP, you would've grasped my point. You mean the post in which I was making a rational statement? Yeah. Did you know that most gun shot victims survive? Do you know anything about guns? Like the OP, you're making way to many assumptions, painting with too broad of a brush. Again, that's what posting from an emotional place gets you. Well yes, the 11 year old kid did pull the trigger. So yes, he is to blame, but his guardians are by far more liable.
No, it is the easy availability of firearms in the USA which is a problem, given the violent nature of the culture there. The place is full of gun nuts.
/Over 30,000 firearm related deaths per year and this year it will outstrip the Auto accidents, and like car accidents they are no longer reporting the single death fatalities because there are too many of them We on the other hand - ONE person gets shot - not killed just wounded or shot at and it is all over the news
Thats because we as a nation and as individuals care...and we have not been desensitized by the years and years of violence...
You know the stats.... we have been over this before. There are approximately 8000 firearm homicides per year in America according to the FBI. Approximately 60% are inner city gang and drug related. If your not a gang banger or drug dealer, and you don't frequent bad zip codes, then you are pretty safe for a country of over 300 million people. https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/u...able_8_murder_victims_by_weapon_2009-2013.xls
