Sanders Would Raise Payroll Taxes on Everyone to Fund Paid Family Leave

I can see it now.

Gibs me dats squating out a new kid every year just to claim "medical leave" and of course grow the amount of their various welfare checks.

People already do this, birth for welfare's sake, and this is bound to increase that practice.

 

From Sander's website:

The only way this would work is if the paid parental leave is paid for 100% by the people.

Let's say it's a $2 cup of coffee for 52 weeks of the year. That's a collection of a tiny $104 for a whole year of paychecks per worker.

That doesn't even come close to compensating businesses for their lost time and money.

This is a major business destroying idea. It will ruin our economy.

 

Most people don't have a kid every year.

 

People on welfare don't get medical leave. Wtf are you talking about?

 

Of course he would.......

And the same shiftless, barely there liberals will take advantage of it!
You know the ones. You work with them. Dad, Uncle....etc got them that job. And they never do a dam thing!

 

How is someone else's decision to have a baby my concern or responsibility? I'm paying for the medical bills during the pregnancy and delivery, I'm paying for the mother to stay home, I'm paying for the post birth doctor visits, and then I'm paying for k-12 and then college. By the time this kid is 26 years old and off of his parents dime he's going to be upset that now he has start paying for the next generation of kids just like him. Worse yet, this kid could be infertile or gay and never have kids of his own so what he's paying for is something he may never benefit from.

 

That math doesn't really work. It assumes that every single parent has a new child every single year for their entire employment time.

 

But it isn't morally right.

It is not morally right to expect other people to pay for your stuff.

 

Well at least he proposes not just a program but a means to pay for it. What I hate is some kooky idea that costs a lot of money and the bills writers dont even include a tax to pay for them. If the people insist on having these benefits they should be willing to pay for it with a tax increase.

 

why does Bernie want the middle-class to pay for this?

why can't just the rich pay for it?

 

And the concept doesn't sell well in the US. Americans respect and expect success. This raises suspicion when the Left starts discussing plans to tax it away. The constant chatter about inequality doesn't make Americans hunger for socialism, it makes us more supportive of free enterprise and increases suspicion about what the regulatory and taxation folks are really up to. Raise the subject and you find a decrease “by nearly 20% the share of respondents who ‘trust government’ most of the time,” a study found.

There is “a steady decline in support for redistributive government policies.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/15/o...turned-voters-against-sharing-the-wealth.html

“Democratic polling that found that talking about income inequality does not register strongly with the American public and risks accusations of class warfare.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...2f1f32-02be-11e4-b8ff-89afd3fad6bd_story.html

Here is where America really comes in: “Economic inequality is not in itself morally objectionable, from the point of view of morality, it is not important that everyone should have the same. What is morally important is that everyone should have enough.”

We are not, as a country, fans of government enforced uniformity. We are heavily committed to individuality, which is the polar opposite of the tripe being pedaled by the progressives.

People right suspect that government intervention in the name of fighting inequality will lead to exactly what’s happened in the Obama era: more inequality, with bureaucrats and their cronies gaining at our expense.

The first-, second- and fourth-richest counties in the US, and six of the top 10 are DC suburbs and Americans have noticed.

“inequality is often also driven by government itself — and especially by the use of public power to further enrich and empower the already rich and powerful.”

http://www.nationalaffairs.com/publications/detail/the-scourge-of-upward-redistribution

More:

http://nypost.com/2015/10/18/wealth-inequality-isnt-a-crisis-and-voters-know-it/

 

Paid family and medical leave technically is paid for by insurance companies, not from Medicare or SS taxes. Raising the taxes would not help even the small businesses because the raise would cost more to hire someone and maintain that employee over a period of time. It would not help big business because these companies can afford these insurance plancs for sick and paid medical leave.

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He is trying to be "equitable."

 

if we put the cost on to businesses, they will simply go out of business

at least the small businesses will.

this would have to be paid for by the govt.

 

You can apply that to conservatives as well about not knowing economics when they propose their domestic tax cuts and spending bills.

 

I would absolutely love to pay more in taxes so mothers and fathers can spend more time getting their newborn acclimated. Children are the backbone of our society and children need two functional parents. With the state of marriage in our country I think we should be doing everything we can to help new parents get their feet planted in the ground before returning back to work. Especially given that with today's stagnate wages a lot of parents cannot afford to have a stay at home parent.

 

so the middle class will pay for this, not the wealthy 1%?

 

It wasn't so bad then because parents could afford to have a stay at home parent. Now wages are almost exactly the same as they were in the 70s but cost of living has skyrocketed. We've allowed CEOs to continue to raise their wages to astronomical levels while not giving raises to their workers.

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That's apparently Bernie's plan. I'd like to see what options are on the table. It might make sense to have people who use it help pay for it.

 

LMFAO!

Where do you think the government gets its money from?

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CCCCCCEEEEEEEOOOOOOOssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!

LMFAO!

It's not the CEO's fault.

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The top 20% already pay 84% of the federal income tax.

How much more do you want to steal from them???????

 

Then be my guest. Spend as much of YOUR money as you want doing so.

What's holding you back????

 

Would you and your bigotry please take a long walk off a short pier? Thank you.

 

Sort of different from starting two wars and expecting payment from moonbeams and fairy dust, wouldn't you say? And rather refreshing, I might add. At least SOMEBODY knows there is no free lunch.

 

Yeah, but Sanders is for 12 weeks of paid leave for new parents. Assuming that pay is $104 a week who's going to work for their employer for 12 more years, per kid, to pay them back?

 

Stay at home parents were a huge issue in the 90's in terms of that, there weren't that many, and at the same time along with that failing rate, feminists movement contributed even more to that.

 

How would they not?

 

How many years have you worked? How many kids have you had?

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Medical leave from a job they don't have?