Syrian refugees look like army, say Hungarian Prime Minister

Hungarian Prime Minister, Victor Orban, said the refugees entering Europe look more like an army than refugees fleeing war; and that neither the German nor Hungarian way of life is a guaranteed human right for everyone.

“This is a migratory movement composed of economic migrants, refugees and also foreign fighters. This is an uncontrolled and unregulated process,” he told the European People’s party congress.

“Right to human dignity and security are basic rights. But neither the German nor the Hungarian way of life is a basic right of all people on the Earth.

Almost 600,000 people fleeing war and poverty, mainly from Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan, have arrived in Europe so far this year, with the bulk of them heading for Germany and Sweden.

“We cannot avoid to speak about the quality of our democracies,” said Orban.

“Does it comply with the freedom of information and speech that media usually show women and children while 70% of the migrants are young men and they look like an army?

“Just because we do not consider them as enemies we must not act against ourselves. Our moral responsibility is to give back these people to their homes and countries,” Orban said.



http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...k-like-an-army-says-hungarian-pm-viktor-orban

It has been said before, even by people on this forum, that most of the refugees in this latest 'migration' from the middle east look young and healthy. Instead of running to Europe and making demands for better housing, better food, and all kinds of other freebies, these 'refugees' should be back in Syria cleaning up the mess, and getting ready to rebuild when the fighting ends; and they should be fighting for their countries freedom, and future.

It is these migrants that are the far-right religious extremists, and anti-European racists; and they should be sent back to where they come from. For our governments to insist we look at these tens of thousands of potential terrorists as "migrants" is ludicrous and suspicious.

As far as the so-called "xenophobic", "far-right", "anti-immigration" Germans, no people of any country should sit by and let their country be overrun by its enemies. Fighting an invading army could never be considered racist. It is the Jewish-owned media that insists we are racists for not sitting idly by and watching our countries be overrun by people who don't not appreciate our largess, do not respect our culture, want to turn our countries into mirror images of their own, and want us all to bow to them, and in many cases, want us all dead.

 

Of course, looking into our so well informed media, you will see only ISIS, Jihad, Taliban, Al Qaida and so on in combination with Islam and this is the picture which too many people only have in term of “Islam!. And this Nazi pied-piper scum makes it worse by fueling any fear!
But truth is something else as this BS … how many refugees until now in Europe? 1 million? So let 10,000 of them be Jihadist, ISIS fighter and whatever of scum, they are only 1% of them!
Of course we need safety against terror, but more dangerous are those long time and in third generation living Muslims in Europe, which are disenchanted from the West when being since birth only second class citizens with no real chances in live. They are easy meat for the pied-piper scum of Jihad and becoming volunteer ISIS fighters. They are much more a threat! Why does no one kick out the well-known pied-pipers of Muftis doing so to get young Muslims to become Jihadists in berlin, London, Paris etc.? Why does no one of this Nazi-Scum tell this on their protests, eh?

in Germany we have for example Pierre Vogel, a "normal" German guy who converted to Islam and is an extreme Salafist and Jihadist. Why the hack is he running around as free man? Why is he and other guys of his sort allowed to make Islamic events to convert Muslims and Non.Muslims to extreme sort of Islam?
No answer about ... even not from Neo Nazi scum, but of course bashing on refugees, because about 1 or 2 percent could be dangerous of them!

Really, I’m so over with this silly propaganda BS of people jabbering around of a Muslim danger for the Western culture and that all who do not agree will see what will happen BS telling.
Aside this, who fueled the rebellion in Syria and made worst BS of supporting everything to fight Assad, but made at least a tollhouse out of the complete ME and Libya and Afghanistan … the home of these refugees? It was the West!

As usual humanity is only given by some people if they have the correct religion and are coming from the correct area of the world!

 

Seeking Asylum

 

Full grown, health men don't seek asylum. These Middle Eastern men are either cowards, or are up to no good--they are either lazy and want a free ride from Westerners, or they are really are an army with their sights on the subjugation of Europeans.

 

How hypocritical of you to accuse the West of discrimination and xenophobia. If the tables were turned and there were a millions of Germans on their way to Syria, you would be shooting them at the borders. In the very least, if you let them in (which you never would) you would force them to convert to Islam under threat of being beheaded, and force them to honor Syrian, and Islamic culture. Don't give us this boohoo BS.

 

You know what democracy is and what is even written in a special US document, done in July 4,1776? I think you should better remember to such things as to shout around for a danger which is not existing in reality ...

 

The Syrian civil war broke out AFTER 5 years of drought.. Its a Dust Bowl now. Syrian farmers abandoned their farms and moved to the city where there are NO jobs.

 

Are you serious? These refugees are fleeing certain death and an utterly destroyed infrastructure; either from their own government's bombs or from ISIS. What, realistically, would you suggest an unarmed populace does to counter tanks, aircraft and artillery? Have you actually thought this through? As far as them being "far right extremists" I suggest you really don't have a clue.

 

Yes tell us all how tired and hard working farmers morphed into foreign fighters who became ISIS...

 

I have thought it through. I may not be a Muslim or Jew, but I do have a mind of my own. I've mentioned this before. Europe and America have had their fair share of wars, and I don't recall anyone knocking on Syria's doors asking for freebies or even for Syrians to fight our wars for us. Syrians act like no one else has been through what they have. We've been through much worse. And, yes, I was mistaken in calling them "far right extremists". They are far-left extremists (in that they love the welfare system in our countries) religious fanatics and racists.

Germany after WWll. Total devastation. Almost the same picture can be found for parts of France, the UK, and other European countries, and Japan.
The US incurred 400,000 casualties in WWll, and 600,000 in the civil war. We've been through it.

 

You haven't been "through" anything. Remind me, when was the last time US soil was invaded by a foreign entity? Oh, and I'll raise your 400,000 with the 20 million your ally, Soviet Russia, lost in that war.
This is Aleppo: https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=a...mpvdOFlPM:&usg=__1rqZszLPMqCSZvJ58ABOvdPCags=
Familiar?

 

Ehm ... and you tell us how US and many others are becoming such smart to support everyone and everything who claimed to fight against Assad, including worst Jihadists, because no matter, only importance that they fight Assad...

 

Russia's huge and unfortunate losses was because of the policies of the extreme left, communist policies of Lenin and Stalin. Russian had its civil war: the Russian Revolution where upwards of 6 million people died. Did they come to the ME and ask for help? No. They suffered through it, and rebuilt.

As far as me not "knowing a thing" about the conflict in Syria: The Arab Spring was a catalyst for many little two bit revolutions. Little groups of Syrians started to protest against Assad and the government; and this morphed into an armed conflict with umpteen different factions of rebels fighting each other--Shia against Sunni, etc. Then the rebels started calling for the ethnic cleansing of various groups like Christians, Alawites, Shiites and Druse. You people were squabbling with each other over your religion before the US of A ever came into existence. Don't blame this war all on exterior forces.

 

"You people"? I'm a white, British, lapsed Catholic man of Polish ancestry. Please explain your 'thinking' here, because, frankly, you leave me baffled.
Russia's losses were because the USSR was invaded by Nazi Germany and Russians were fighting for the survival of their nation. Something America has never had to do.

 

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If you being Polish is true, tell me this: When Poland was caught between Russian and Germany did you all run away with your tail between you legs, or did you stay and fight? When Poland was in ruins did you move somewhere else, and expect your hosts to subsidize you? NO! These Syrians need to get some balls, and fight for their precious homeland, and their beliefs--no matter how archaic they may be.

I expect you lapsed Catholicism morphed into a Islamic convert.

 

Poles were murdered in their millions by both belligerents-those who couldn't escape to relative safety before the rest of Europe was overrun by the Nazis. The rest had nowhere to go-and why? Because Europe was occupied by Nazi Germany. And, frankly, I couldn't care less if you thought I was a Martian. Now please go away and educate yourself; your posts are an embarrassment.

 

I dont support our actions in Syria nor our foreign policy in general.... Ooops you lose.

 

Why did I loose ... was this a competition?

No, you wanted an explaining why these hard working farmers morphed into ISIS fighters. Point is that a) only Sunni could become ISIS, no Shiite or Alevis, b) not all become, but many were threaten with death by ISIS and so fled with the option to stay and die or to go and survive.

 

Ehm ... ask US citizens how many will become rebel, Guerilla or taking an arm to fight and how many will escape over the borders to Canada or Mexico if being in same situation and so not having your demanded balls too.
Polish were murdered by Nazis, were murdered by Russians and Polish did fight in Guerilla against Germans in their homeland, as well in Free Polish Army in the West, as well as "other" Free Polish Army in the East under USSR control.

So how many Syrian stay and fight at least? Not few! Some on Assad side, some on Free Syrian Army, Some on Jihadist sides and some on ISIS side. Your demand that all fighting able persons have to stay and fight is ridiculous ...

 

Brought to you by the self loathing and the bleeding hearts.

Part of me also wonders if there is indeed some sort of conspiracy in play to dramatically alter the U.S. and Europe. Seems rather odd doesn't it, that the U.S. and E.U. would simultaneously suffer a huge influx of 'migrants'?

 

Sarcasm. Look it up i am sure there is a German word for it.. Context also a good word for you to look up.

 

Cowards? ?!!
I seriously doubt you would be able to handle their levels of stress.

 

Wrong, the USSR suffered heavy loses because of the Stalin military purges, and they had no one capable of even slowing the early advances. It wasn't until they built up their base is when their counter attacks worked. By your political logic, the USSR never would have one.

 

LOL for so many reasons. Handle the stress? All war is stressful. They need to man up.