Syrian refugees look like army, say Hungarian Prime Minister

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  1. mdrobster

    mdrobster Well-Known Member

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    War refugees have existed since civilization, to suggest individuals can fight off armies is ignorance at its worst, let alone claiming cowards as if you are some glorified war hero.
     
  2. PirtiusDominus

    PirtiusDominus Member Past Donor

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    That will change soon enough.
     
  3. supaskip

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    Why not? If you are a fully grown healthy man, but don't agree with the current political situation which therefore endangers you, but you have no access to weaponry to defend yourself, you must just wait to die, but allow your family to move to Europe to be safe? Whilst I don't particularly agree with the migration of refugees in it's current state, I'm not sure I agree that you are "not a man" if you are not willing to stay and die for no good reason.
     
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    No nation can survive a constant influx of outsiders who do not wish to integrate. At the very least it's culture will be diminished. At worst it will be drawn into internal conflict and chaos.
    Clearly no Westerners are fleeing their countries for the Middle East as refugees.

    The Islamic creed for world domination has not been taken seriously by too many non-believers. It is real. And it is underway.

    It is exactly the mindset of liberals that have ushered in these waves of immigrants into ALL Western nations.
    In the past immigrants came legally and by due process. In the past, there was no great welfare system to support them so they came knowing that
    they would have to pull their own weight.

    Today Western nations have a magnet....a free ride. It is human nature to want that in the vast majority of cases.
    Likewise it is suicide and self defeating to believe it can be offered.
    We are witnessing the end of Western civilization as it has existed for 500 years or more.
     
  5. snakestretcher

    snakestretcher Banned

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    There was a world war 70 years ago. Europe's refugees numbered in the millions. Was that also a conspiracy of some sort?
     
  6. Margot2

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    In addition to the war things are very bad in Syria.. no food, no oil, the country side is a dust bowl.. So much of this mess is a result of out war in Iraq.. and the installation of Maliki.
     
  7. leftlegmoderate

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    I'm not sure how to respond to this 'apples&oranges' post.
     
  8. Alwayssa

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    They do if they are going there first before they bring the rest of the family over. And now we are seeing more and more women, children, and elderly persons.
     
  9. Alwayssa

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    It was 1942 on two small islands in the Bearing Sea. But I don't think he is from Dutch Harbor though.
     
  10. tidbit

    tidbit New Member Past Donor

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    That's just great. Whose is going to pay for the women and children and elderly persons????? The German public, because most of these men aren't 'work ready', and I doubt that they even want to work. The Germans and other Europeans know who will flip the bill for these 'refugees'. If the tables were turned and it was the Germans coming to your countries expecting you to support them, you would shoot them at the border. First the German people got saddled with Hitler, and now they get saddled with you. Poor Germans.

    Another thing: if Syria is so "war torn", dangerous, and awful why did these healthy looking men leave their families there in the first place????????
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    It's very simple; today's refugees from war zones are no different to those at any time in history. Unless you can explain why they are different (apples and oranges).
     
  12. Alwayssa

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    Well, those in the military primarily fought, some fled with the governmental officials to England, and most civilians, especially Jews, were slaughtered.

    No 303 RAF Squadron was comprised initially by Poles and had a historic combat service in the RAF from 1940 to 1945. There were other squadrons as well from No 300 to No 318. There were Polish Army units, and some navy vessels.
     
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    The young men who are there for the jobs and a second chance.
     
  14. Dutch

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    Not when I see this morning's news roundup. Still mostly young, healthy Arabs with an occasional infant or two mixed in to expedite their transfers.
     
  15. tidbit

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    I think they are there for their first chance. And, by the way, whose jobs are they going to take--the Germans? Any jobs going to immigrants should first be offered to Germans, especially the German youth. The Jordanian labor force is already complaining that Syrians are taking their jobs. If the tables were turned and foreigners were taking your jobs, you would shoot them at the border.
     
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    That the Jews were the only ones "slaughtered" is a lie. Millions of Polish soldiers either died in battle, or were captured (700,000) and sent to concentration camps. Stalin order the "slaughter" of 22,000 Polish officers. They were shot and buried in a mass grave. Six million poles died in the Holocaust, many of them Jews, but many of them were Polish Christians, and lets not forget the captured soldiers that died in the camps.

    I think I have made my point that the Polish people did not run away and beg for handouts from other nations. They stood their ground and fought and suffered and died. When it was all over, they rebuilt.
     
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    Not the reports I get from NGO's in the area.
     
  18. Dutch

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    Why would you read NGO reports when all you need to do is to turn TV on?
     
  19. Alwayssa

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    I never said only the Jews, I said civilians were slaughtered, especially the Jews. This means that Jews were targeted once Germany occupied all of Poland when Operation Barbarossa was initiated. Prior to that operation, the life in occupied Germany was not fun for most Poles.

    You have not made your point at all. You try to use history as an example, but history has not proven you correct.
     
  20. Alwayssa

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    Why not, I donated money for the assistance of Syrian Refugees.
     
  21. Alwayssa

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    Oh great, the job is an entitlement argument.
     
  22. Dutch

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    Good for you. I've donated money for the assistance of United Hatzalah.
     
  23. Alwayssa

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    Np problem with that since that organization provides free emergency medical services to anyone, including a Palestinian. BTW, did you know that it was United Hatzalah that treated the 14 year old after he was injured in which the young Palestinian committed the attack.
     
  24. Dutch

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    That they do.
     
  25. tkolter

    tkolter Well-Known Member

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    We are not talking about Stalinist Russia or Communist Russia (an abomination to Marxist Communists) but the Russian Republic an elected government who has every right to pass laws and this one is simple if your homosexual don't come out in public promoting it or other lifestyles. But one can organize from what I can tell privately and what leverage do we have with them - none - to get them to change their policy. I don't agree with the law but I'm not a homosexual or other party in Russia either.
     

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