Challenge for Atheists: Prove Wind Exists

Your analogy is flawed.

The brain that defines my behavior today did not exist when I was a fetus. My behavior is dependent on the physical state of my brain, along with the information that resides in it.

That being said, the energy in this continuously expanding universe is the same exact energy that existed in the singularity.

 

Radio waves travel without atmosphere. Aether cannot be atmosphere.

 

I can FEEL these "flow of gasses", but I cannot SEE it.

Aren't these FEELINGS what you atheists rely on to prove the existence of wind????

 

Aether or atmosphere--whose mincing words. Aether is the atmosphere that causes these:

 

PRAY TELL..........HOW does a sailboat actually prove the wind exists????

 

How do YOU KNOW wind exists????????

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Is God MIGHT or RIGHT????

 

Under your requirements, NOTHING is real in a blind person's world. Sometimes I just shake my head...

 

Why can't you see the EFFECTS of God????? EXPLAIN yourself.............

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How does this concern EXISTENCE???

 

Golly...what a profound and powerful question. I am now completely confused and perplexed because of the incredible intellect required to state the obvious.

We can make electricity from it.
Tornados break stuff because of it.
My tree broke last year when it made so damn much noise and damaged my roof.
Sometimes I even see leaves move and flags wave.

All of these things are caused by the physical effects of this strange and invisible force.

 

Are you implying that things which are not or cannot be measured, cannot exist??????????????????

 

You can see the wind blowing a crop of corn stalks. However you CANNOT see the wind itself.

Prove to me that wind exists. How do YOU KNOW????

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NOPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Things exist whether people sense it or are conscious of it or NOT..............that's the difference between me and you.

God is known not only through FAITH, but more so through REASON........................!!!

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So you agree wind is an EFFECT of something else..........

What's the difference between "WIND" causing your tree to break, versus GOD causing your tree to break????

 

But blind people can't SEE them and that's the argument you keep coming back to. So if they can't see them they must not exist. PROVE them to a blind person by forcing them to see them. THAT is how you've been arguing. Your logic says if you can't see it, it must not exist and cannot be proven.

What exactly is the difference between you and me? You've had countless examples of proof of wind and yet you're still arguing as if you're correct about things.

 

The wind is a physical phenomenon well understood, demonstrated, proven through experimentation, easily explained, and defined by agreed upon criteria that allows it to be shown as a reality. God is none of these things and in fact cannot even be agreed upon as to what it says or does.





Oh..and the cause of said effect is also very well understood and defined.

 

The primary difference is God isn't wind and wind isn't God.

 

Again, clouds are moving air you can see thanks to its high moisture content. Same with fog.

Glad I could help.

 

It moves.

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True, God is mostly hot air.

 

Of course you can see wind, if you only know how to look.

The first way to "see" wind is to measure it. You can get a very simple measurement, including of direction, simply by wetting your finger and sticking it in the air. You could also hang a piece of cloth and get a slightly more accurate measure of the velocity of air movement. You could use an anemometer to get a much more accurate speed of the movement of those invisible-to-the-human-eye gasses. Now, just because you can't see wind with your naked eye (though you can certainly see the particulates moving in the wind), there are ways to see air with through filters.

In the same line of absurdity as your "argument", if a man is blind and cannot see a kitchen table, how does he proves it exists before he winds up stubbing his toe on it?

 

He can be neither if he does not exist there is science to back wind up most christians acnologe basic science.

 

Your senses feel the wind on your skin. Nobody hates you for believing in God.

 

I know that I wouldn't like it if someone did that to me. Seems like a fairly straightforward case of empathy.

You're kind of begging the question, there. Supposing God exists, what evidence have you that He is the source of right apart from just taking his word on it?

Hmm, you must have followed the wrong link. I'm talking about the one you put in your reply to me.

 

No you don't, because you'd never know it happened.

Sure, what could be a more straightforward case of empathy than an incident which has zero effect on anyone else?

OK, so you find the question way too scary. Thanks for clearing that up.

Were there evidence to the contrary, just who do you suppose would be competent to render a judgment as to its validity, Brainiac?

Obviously not; but should you care to submit any reasonable objections to the OP, the thread is still open.

 

Hahaha. Good one.

Yeah. Wind can be measured and obsearved. We can see it directly blowing houses over during storms.

There is no observation and no measurement we can make to prove god exist.
NONE

 

Electromagnetic waves can travel through a vacuum. They don't need an atmosphere. Your picture is of an interaction between the atmosphere and the solar wind.

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By it's interaction with the wind. In the absence of wind, the sail hangs. In the presence of wind, it fills. This is a basic observation, and is predictable.

 

Pretty much. The thing is-the supernatural cannot be measured. God cannot be measured. In terms of the natural world, everything that exists can be measured (in one way or another).

 

You can talk until you are blue in the face, but Heretic will simply say "no it isn't" and keep rambling about how if he can't see something with his bare eye, it must not exist. So there are no atoms, electrons, protons, neutrons, molecules, electricity, magnetism, radio and light waves, fish beneath murky water, bottom to the ocean, anything at all beneath the skin, no inside to an apple until after one breaks the skin open to see it visually, etc. It's almost like an exercise in insanity and no amount of common sense or science will matter. I'm guess when it's pitch black, nothing at all exists for him except the blackness. And in a blind person's world, nothing at all exists because they cannot see it. Wash, rinse, repeat. The whole thread just repeats that mantra of definitive, very strong reasoning and ability to test to prove wind, but none is accepted. It's simply "no it isn't" and we start all over.